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Monday, February 19, 2007

Broncos' Bell, Plummer for Houston's first?

The Denver Post is floating a rumor which has the Broncos sending Jake Plummer, Tatum Bell, and draft picks to the Texans in exchange for Houston's first round pick (8th overall).

This sounds like pure speculation from the writer, but we felt we'd pass it along in case it has more substance. It also suggests that Bell is on the block and Plummer has certainly played his last down as a Broncos QB.

The Broncos are rumored to want Adrian Peterson and they'll need a trade like this to have any shot at him. Although, if Peterson is available at the 8th spot, the Texans would jump at the chance to grab him, which makes this trade scenario even less likely.

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Anonymous said...

The rumor as I've heard it is a little more extensive than that, looking like:

Texans receive:
- Jake Plummer
- Tatum Bell
- Broncos 1st
- Broncos 3rd

Broncos Receive
- Texans 1st
- Yet unnamed player

No way the Texans give up their first round pick for just Bell and Plummer.

February 19, 2007 6:25:00 PM EST  
Nate said...

There is no way this would happen. Just a pipe dream of a Denver writer. Why would Houston give up their first for Denver's back-up QB (who's not exactly a long term solution for Houston) and a RB that couldn't win the starting job? Even if Denver threw in their first, it still wouldn't make any sense.

February 19, 2007 6:41:00 PM EST  
Ebron T said...

I think it's a possible trade but i think they wouldn't want Adrian Peterson, they already have Mike Bell so they'll need a big back. They might be looking at Jamal Lewis or something. If the broncos do trade for the Texans' pick they might draft a CB to fill the position of Darrent Williams.

RIP. Darrent.

February 19, 2007 7:03:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

On top of what Nate said, Peterson wouldn't make it past the browns at #3 or 4

February 19, 2007 8:14:00 PM EST  
aj said...

Charley Casserly is not the GM in Houston any more, so draft day stupidity is most likely a thing of the past.

February 19, 2007 10:01:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...


This is actually funny. Sorry Broncos, you can't always maneuver yourselves into the top ten of the draft....especially for only expendable players. Houston would have to be crazy to do that.

Anyways, Peterson will probably get picked by the Browns.

February 19, 2007 11:47:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

This does make sense actually. Texans get to trade out of the #8 spot to a position where they can grab a need (OLine). They gain a pick. They also gain experience at QB, top 5 winning % QB, a 1000 yard game breaking rusher who led the league in yds/carry in 2005. It is definately a possibility.

February 20, 2007 12:11:00 AM EST  
Anonymous said...

I think the Bronco's will do anything to get a great RB. I think Shannahan has finally realized he cannot plug just anybody in and have them run for 1600 yards. They need an everydown back. The draft if where they will have to get one because there is no one that is not washed up in free agency. I don't think Peterson will fall to 8th but maybe they just want to make sure they don't miss Lynch.

February 20, 2007 11:48:00 AM EST  
Anonymous said...

Tatum Bell is NOT a game breaking rusher. He missed three games in 2006, rushed for 50 yards or LESS in five games, only scored twice and lost five fumbles. He also lost his starting job to an undrafted rookie. Houston would be insane for doing this deal. Plummer and Carr are the same guy. Getting a RB like Marshawn Lynch with the #8 would make much more sense for Houston.

February 20, 2007 2:57:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

I heard this rumor by Williamson at the Denver Post. It seems a little lopsided in the Texans favor. They would get a starting QB, Plummer, whom Kubiak loves. A solid staring RB, still be in the first round, Denver picks 20th, and get a 3rd round pick. All this for just the 8th pick with no guarantee that Peterson will be there. Last year I heard a "rumor" that the broncos were trying to ship WR Lelie, RB Bell, a 1st, and a 3rd to the Texans for the #1 pick i.e. Reggie Bush. But nothing happened. Sounds like the same nonsense.

February 20, 2007 5:53:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

The fact is that denver is giving up 2 players that are better than the 2 players they would be replacing.Houston needs more than 1 draft pick so getting jake,tatum and a 3rd round pick helps them more than 1 draft pick

February 20, 2007 9:19:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

Yah, I cannot see Shanahan wanting Peterson at #8. I am not saying that this trade is a possibility, but I do think the trade that the first anonymous comment mentioned with

Texans receive:
- Jake Plummer
- Tatum Bell
- Broncos 1st
- Broncos 3rd

but with Shanahan's history of turning late round backs into 1,000 yard players year after year. I don't see Peterson on their radar.

February 20, 2007 10:01:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

You should check your facts. The Broncos have not had a top ten pick since 1991. That is longer than any team in any major sport. I don't think that qualifies as "always" in the top ten.

February 20, 2007 11:56:00 PM EST  
Alex said...

...Bell could not run like a star and Plummer could not be a above decent QB with a great offensive line in Denver: what are they supposed to do in Houston? And why Bell, if Peterson could be available in the draft?

February 21, 2007 6:42:00 AM EST  
RYAN said...

Broncos go deep in the draft to get running backs. They put almost anyone in the backfield and get 1,000 rusher. No way they are gonna waste a first round pick on running back.

February 21, 2007 9:43:00 AM EST  
Anonymous said...

While I would love to see that trade go through, I agree that Peterson will probably be taken by the Browns any ways. However I do think that Plummer was at his best under Kubiak and he it would be in his best interests to go to Houston. I think Plummer would fair well in Houston.

February 21, 2007 2:25:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

Basicly the texans are not a smart football team as u can tell from there other draft picks over years..example david carr, travis johnson, mario williams..they would have never got maario or travis...and well looks like this yeah instrad of getting a great running back in adrian peterson they might get a washed up QB in jake plummer, tatum bell...who is a good player just not a adrian peterson...and why would u want there 1st and 3rd when u can get so many better rookies then they smart about this draft not do this trade let david carr become a freeagent get a veteran QB not jake plummer bc he is washed up and get a great rookie back AP...and get michael griffin from UT who should be first round but will drop bc his be smart Houston and do what i say..kbye now

February 21, 2007 4:27:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

Tatum Bell is NOT a starting-caliber running back to begin with (he's a change of pace guy), so he's NOT going to push Domanick Davis out of a job. Now if Davis gets hurt, that's another story...

I couldn't understand Denver's fascination with Jake Plummer when they signed him in '03, and I don't see Houston's fascination with him now. If Plummer couldn't win last year with one of the most talented teams in the league and some of the best protection in the league, how is he going to win with a MUCH less talented team and, very likely, the worst line? The guy makes too many mistakes...too many BIG, game-changing mistakes for a veteran, and I think it's pretty evident that his head will NEVER be in the game. He's a 33-year old Rex Grossman.

And oh yeah, Travis Johnson and Mario Williams aren't busts just yet...give players some time to actually play before you go throwing the bust tag around. Carr isn't a bust at all...he looks like a better QB than Plummer at a much younger age, but the pressure to perform, and getting popped every other play, have murdered his confidence; I think he'll be fine if (at this point when) he gets a change of scenery.

February 22, 2007 7:47:00 AM EST  
Anonymous said...

The texans can get so many better rookies than Denver? I'm pretty sure Denver's rookies even in round 2 through 6 have out performed the draft picks of Houston. Texan fans are just scared of anything but mediocrity. They will always be stuck in neutral until they get a veteran QB with playoff experience in there. And now you have the chance, and you don't want to take it. Welp, I guess you can be 4-12 forever

February 22, 2007 8:03:00 AM EST  
Anonymous said...

I think Denver is eyeing one of the D-lineman for the 8th pick. They want Alan Branch from Michigan or Amobi Okoye from Louisville. They are going to let Myers (DL) go to free agency if they can nail down a deal with Houston.

Houston believes that Dominik "change his name" Davis (now Williams) will be back healthy. And remember he is a premier RB. So "no mistake Jake" will be back to his 2005 form with Kubiak, Tatum will be the change of pace RB, and Houston can get an O Lineman at 21.

February 22, 2007 3:29:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

The person who said "david carr and jake plummer are the same guy" couldn't be more wrong. Carr is a pocket passer with a rocket arm. Plummer is a crafty scrambler who makes plays outside of the pocket.

Night and day difference, man.

February 22, 2007 5:59:00 PM EST  
jacob said...

The Texans are just picking up the Broncos leftovers. First Kubiak, then Dayne, now they'll try and get Tatum FumBell and Jake Plummer for a guy like Peterson, no way. I love the Broncos, but this is a dream deal. The Broncos would be better off trying to get the bucks' pick w/1st, 2nd, Plummer, Bell, and a future 1st for Calvin.

February 22, 2007 8:32:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

This is a horrible trade for the Texans. They get 2 picks(#20 and #84) and a pile of junk for their pick(#8) and another player. This is some stupid Denver sportswriter's dream and it is never going to happen as it is written.

February 22, 2007 10:12:00 PM EST  
Anonymous said...

The trade would probably be good for both teams. Plummer and Kubiak are a proven combination. Tatum Bell has been an excellent "change of pace" back through his career.
The 21st pick would get them much needed line help. Don't see them getting Denvers 3rd.
As for Denver,in the 8th spot they'd have a shot at several defensive impact players. Laron Landry should be there and Denvers safetys are getting old. I like both clubs and hope this comes true. Both clubs would have immediate upgrades and as another writer said, Houston has more needs than just 1 player.

February 23, 2007 2:27:00 PM EST  

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