Trades???

pigfuggah · Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 386

Many people feel that the Dolphins will trade the #2 pick. Im not sure how many takers there will be and what could the Fins possibly get? Do you think it's likely? And for what?

DoLFaN · Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Location: MIAMI, FL

rumor has it that they will trade down with arizona for their #8 pick and some other stuff

pigfuggah · Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 386

Yeah, we all know how reliable Frank is....... ha ha! Just kidding! Details?

jdk3291 · Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 79

dolfan...i was wondering where you heard about the possible cadinals and dolphins deal.

DoLFaN · Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Location: MIAMI, FL

eh, i got it from "The Mort Report" on ESPN

jdk3291 · Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 79

dolfan can you post the link i cant find it

frankmoore · Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 14149 Location: Cow Hampster

I think we'll be out of luck on the link, the Mort Report usually only airs on ESPN broadcasts and typically isn't transcribed on the website.

However, I think that the idea of Miami and Arizona swapping picks has merit -- more than we know now. Dennis Green covets offense. Always has. Ronnie Brown is the kind of player who'd make him giddy. I don't believe that he excites Nick Saban as much. If Saban can get at least two Day 1 picks (this year or next) out of Arizona in addition to the #8, I believe that this trade will happen.

If it does, I would really expect that we could bank on Cadillac Williams being Miami's top pick. Here's why:

With the first pick, SF would take Aaron Rodgers. Sure, there's talk about Braylon Edwards but let's be realistic, a great WR is wasted with a lousy QB.

Arizona would be trading up for one of two players, Ronnie Brown or Alex Smith. As I can't see Green willing to give up on Josh McCown yet (he spent 5 years developing Brad Johnson), the choice to me would be Brown.

Cleveland will take whichever of the QBs that SF does not. Browns fans might disagree with me because they think there are other needs, but there really isn't another player near the top of this draft who has the upside that Smith does. He also has shown that he's proficient running an offense like Charlie Weis' (mostly short passes for easy completions where the onus is on the receiver to get the ball and make the play).

Chicago is a bit of a quandry. The popular choices are Braylon Edwards and Cedric Benson. I'm guessing that they take Benson because they want to go to a power running game to help take the pressure off that line's pass protection skills.

Tampa Bay takes Mike Williams. They've stated all along that they want him and Gruden's offense would flourish with him opposite Clayton.

Tennessee is a guess. At this point, most people have them taking a CB, either Rolle or Pac-Man Jones. To be honest, I think they'll take Rolle, he's bigger and he should match up better against the larger WRs in the AFC South (Andre Johnson and anyone on Jacksonville).

Minnesota ought to take the best WR on the board. At this point, that would be Braylon Edwards and, for only the second time in years, the Vikes would actually get their card into the commissioner's hands within the correct amount of time to select him.

This leaves the Cadillac available for Miami. It would also leave Pac-Man Jones, Derrick Johnson, and Shawne Merriman available as well. However, I think that given Saban's system and the emphasis on pass interference rules, Jones wouldn't draw enough interest. Johnson wouldn't be a fit for Saban's defense -- he lacks the bulk necessary to take on linemen. Merriman could be an legit option here, but I think Saban would prefer to have a RB who's capable or carrying the ball 18 times a game and who can also return punts.

Mind you this is all just speculation on my part. I'm not saying it will happen, just how it could happen if things work themselves out properly.
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buttaonaroll · Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 92 Location: The O.C.

didnt the san diego trade go through which would give them the number one pick and take edwrads off the board?

Mercury22 · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 12329 Location: the 50 yard line

pigfuggah · Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 386

I dont know about you guys, but here is my personal feeling. I understand Saban wants extra draft picks. But, if Ronnie Brown or Edwards or Smith or whoever blows Saban away, I say you take him, and move on. Next year you have all of your picks and you can seriously take advantage of them then. But you have to understand, which I know ALL of you do, that if you move down and pick a player you like as opposed to a player you love, just to pick up a 2nd, chances are, you arent making a great move...... Thoughts?

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pigfuggah · Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 386

Hey, if it were me, I'd want frank Gore to run my entire Offense. I think he might be a head coach someday!

ronniebrown · Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 7332 Location: H-Town

frank gore has a learning disability ok read his story its amazing he went from special ed classes to a college player and student so get the facts before u make fun of a guy he almost didnt get into college but he got a private tutor to study for his entrance exam and not speaking well dose not mean your stupid and the wonderlic is a hard test i know
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