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4outta6


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: FFMD07: Patriots War Room Reply with quote

This is whats on the trade block at the moment. Feal free to make suggestions.

Matt Light
Corey Dillon
Rodney HarrisonMike Wright
Marquise Hill
Russ Hochstein
Ryan O'Callaghan
Nick Kaczur
1st round pick (via SEA)
1st round pick
2nd round pick
3rd round pick
4th round pick
6th round pick
6th/7th round pick (via ARZ)
7th round pick


New England Patriots

Quarterback
Brady, Tom 6,000,000
Cassel, Matt 435,000

Running Back
Dillon, Corey 2,500,000
Faulk, Kevin 1,900,000
Maroney, Laurence 360,000

Wide Receiver
Caldwell, Donald Reche 1,000,000
Gaffney, Jabar 595,000
Jackson, Chad 360,200

Tight End
Mills, Garrett 360000
Thomas, David 360,000
Watson, Benjamin 560,000

Offensive Line
Hochstein, Russ 600,000
Kaczur, Nick 435,000
Koppen, Dan 900,000
Light, Matt 3,500,000
Mankins, Logan 500,000
Neal, Steve 1,700,000
O'Callaghan, Ryan 360,000
Paxton, Lonie 670,000

Defensive End
Green, Jarvis 1,500,000
Hill, Marquise 510,000
Seymour, Richard 600,000
Warren, Ty 875,000

Defensive Tackle
Smith, Le Kevin 360,000
Wilfork, Vince 600,000

Linebacker
Bruschi, Tedy 1,700,000
Colvin, Rosevelt 4,600,000
Vrabel, Mike 2,050,000
Woods, Pierre 360,000

Cornerback
Andrews, Willie 360,000
Hawkins, Artrell 710,000
Hobbs, Ellis H. 435,000
Scott, Chad 720,000

Safety
Harrison, Rodney 2,700,000
Jones, Tebucky 720,000
Mitchell, Mel 700,000
Sanders, James 435,000
Wilson, Eugene 570,000

Kicker/Punter
Gostkowski, Stephen K 360,000
Miller, Josh 800,000

Salary Cap- $71,000,000
Total Salaries- $44,760,200
Cap Penalties-
Cap Room- $26,239,800
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can afford to offer up a couple of our backup linemen who could start for other teams potentially.

Mike Wright
Marquise Hill [hey, he's better than anyone starting for the Browns or Niners at DE currently]
Russ Hochstein
Ryan O'Callaghan OR Nick Kaczur

I don't think the older guys like Dillon or Harrison have much trade value at all. I'd personally rather restructure Corey's contract and keep him around as a short yardage back. Harrison can go.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tzimisce wrote:
We can afford to offer up a couple of our backup linemen who could start for other teams potentially.

Mike Wright
Marquise Hill [hey, he's better than anyone starting for the Browns or Niners at DE currently]
Russ Hochstein
Ryan O'Callaghan OR Nick Kaczur

I don't think the older guys like Dillon or Harrison have much trade value at all. I'd personally rather restructure Corey's contract and keep him around as a short yardage back. Harrison can go.


I feel like the Jets or Browns would have interest in Dillon, even if it means getting only a 5th rounder. He carries a big salary for a pretty minimal role next season. I think we need to get rid of him....Ill put those guys above on the block.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you guys be interested in number 9? Let me know. PM me. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would you guys be interested in number 9? Let me know. PM me. Very Happy

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I just proposed a deal to the Dolphins:

This is just talk right now.

Patriots get:
Pick 9
Pick 41

Dolphins get:
Pick 22
Pick 28
Rodney Harrison
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No way jose.

Harrison may be aging, but he's an enforcer in our secondary. We're giving up two first round picks, and chances are that both Jarrett and CJ will be gone. CJ is top 5 material, and Jarrett is top 8.

Personally, I think there is lots of WR depth in this draft. Here is my round by round breakdown.

Round 1:
1. Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech*
2. Dwayne Jarrett, USC*
3. Ted Ginn, Ohio State*
4. Sidney Rice, South Carolina*
5. Robert Meachem, Tennessee*

Round 2:
6. Anthony Gonzalez, Ohio State*
7. Craig Davis, LSU
8. Dwayne Bowe, LSU
9. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP
10. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame
11. Steve Smith, USC
12. Aundrae Allison, East Carolina

Round 3:
13. Rhema McKnight, Notre Dame
14. Jason Hill, Washington State
15. Chansi Stuckey, Clemson
16. Laurent Robinson, Illinois State
17. Marcus Monk, Arkansas
18. Jarrett Hicks, Texas Tech
19. Ryne Robinson, Miami (FL)

And that's being awful nice to some players as well.

I'm about to make a 1 round mock of how I see the draft going. I'll get input and we'll be able to make a more educated guess of where we want to get our guys.

As of now, I do not approve of this deal.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Rice said he was returning to school next year.

I think our best bets this year are Gonzalez and Smith. Bowe might also be a good option, depending on how his combine numbers look.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Rice said he was returning to school next year.

I think our best bets this year are Gonzalez and Smith. Bowe might also be a good option, depending on how his combine numbers look.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From RAVENS Asst. GM: BaLrAv3nS
Subject : Adalius Thomas Trade before FA

Hi guys I am posting to see if you are interested in trading for a franchised Adalius Thomas.

He can play nearly every position on defence and is coming towards his best years of football.

Ranked as the number 1 potential Defensive Free agent he would be a big up grade on any team.

Are you interested in acquiring him from us before he hits the free agency???
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BaLrAv3nS wrote:
From RAVENS Asst. GM: BaLrAv3nS
Subject : Adalius Thomas Trade before FA

Hi guys I am posting to see if you are interested in trading for a franchised Adalius Thomas.

He can play nearly every position on defence and is coming towards his best years of football.

Ranked as the number 1 potential Defensive Free agent he would be a big up grade on any team.

Are you interested in acquiring him from us before he hits the free agency???


Depends, what are you asking for?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked this out with the Dolphins:

We get 9 and 41

They get 22, 28, 82, and Hill

We get a 300 point edge on this, but they get Hill aswell. This is the proposition, what do you guys think?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4outta6 wrote:
I worked this out with the Dolphins:

We get 9 and 41

They get 22, 28, 82, and Hill

We get a 300 point edge on this, but they get Hill aswell. This is the proposition, what do you guys think?


IMO, that's even worse than the first proposed deal. Why do we want to get rid of all of our picks for some players that we may not even get.

I honestly don't really care for the point system. This is why I hate doing trades way before the draft, when we don't know who's going where. I feel that before trading picks, unless there is a can't miss STEAL of a deal, we need to be conservative, and wait until at least the end of FA.

However, Adalius Thomas is an exception. He'd look beautiful in a Patriot uniform.
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rabbisson wrote:
4outta6 wrote:
I worked this out with the Dolphins:

We get 9 and 41

They get 22, 28, 82, and Hill

We get a 300 point edge on this, but they get Hill aswell. This is the proposition, what do you guys think?


IMO, that's even worse than the first proposed deal. Why do we want to get rid of all of our picks for some players that we may not even get.

I honestly don't really care for the point system. This is why I hate doing trades way before the draft, when we don't know who's going where. I feel that before trading picks, unless there is a can't miss STEAL of a deal, we need to be conservative, and wait until at least the end of FA.

However, Adalius Thomas is an exception. He'd look beautiful in a Patriot uniform.


The thing is we would use those picks from Miami to hopefully trade with Detroit. I wont consider the deal unless i work out a deal with DET. I am also open to the Thomas deal when we find out the asking price.
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4outta6 wrote:
I worked this out with the Dolphins:

We get 9 and 41

They get 22, 28, 82, and Hill

We get a 300 point edge on this, but they get Hill aswell. This is the proposition, what do you guys think?


IMO, that's even worse than the first proposed deal. Why do we want to get rid of all of our picks for some players that we may not even get.

I honestly don't really care for the point system. This is why I hate doing trades way before the draft, when we don't know who's going where. I feel that before trading picks, unless there is a can't miss STEAL of a deal, we need to be conservative, and wait until at least the end of FA.

However, Adalius Thomas is an exception. He'd look beautiful in a Patriot uniform.


The thing is we would use those picks from Miami to hopefully trade with Detroit. I wont consider the deal unless i work out a deal with DET. I am also open to the Thomas deal when we find out the asking price.


Hmm...I understand your idea...

I'm still not totally sold on this move, but I'm a bit more willing to buy into it now.

However, I really don't want to give up way too much in any deal. I think we need at least 3 of our 4 draft picks at the end of the day. We have too many needs for youth to do anything otherwise.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Browsn GM checking in.

I was just curious of your interest in trading up to #3 overall.

If you have any interest make us an offer in the Browns War Room.

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