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What Was Our Best Value Draft Pick?
Adam Carriker
27%
 27%  [ 5 ]
Charles Johnson
16%
 16%  [ 3 ]
Tony Hunt
44%
 44%  [ 8 ]
Stewart Bradley
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: FFMD07: Pittsburgh Steelers "Steel Tough" War Room Reply with quote

Pressing Issues:
ERFA starts later today. We want to sign some players and make about 10 cuts. Opinions wanted on who we should release.

Staff:
Provisional List
GM: Azazaz7
Head Coach: Jdrocco01
Assistant GM : Mickey
Capologist: RangerD
Assistant Capologist: BigBen7
Defensive Coordinator: jebrick
Offensive Coordinator: Irish 11
Head Scout: gate99
Scouts: One4theThumb, VanSlyke18, MoMoney717, Neumatic, gseabrook26, AlanFanecaFan, Cowherkids
Position Specific Scouts:
RB/FB - Neumatic
OLB/ILB - twonder23
Special Advisor: Big7BenMVP

Timeline:

RFA and UFA period rules announced Friday, January 12th. LSUSAINT will lay out the rules on how the RFA and UFA periods will run in great detail. It will be important that you, as the GM, work hand in hand with your staff and specifically your Capologist during this period to make sure that you bid on the players you want while staying under your cap.

Franchise Tag/Release Players Period January 15th thru 17th. This will be explained in detail when LSU releases the FA rules on the 12th.

RFA Period January 18th 25th. Details will be given about this on the 12th.

UFA Period
January 28th February 6th. Details will be given about this on the 12th.

Pre-Draft Period begins- After the RFA and UFA periods are over, teams should focus solely on the draft at hand. You will have one week to prepare.

Draft Begins- Thursday, February 13th the draft starts and staffs start building their teams respective futures.

Recap- Staffs, writers, and other posters review the mock draft, sharing their opinions.

Quick Links:
Draft Order
Draft Pick Value Board
FFMD07 - Overview and GM/Writer Signups
FFMD07 - Discussion Thread
FFMD07 - GM/Staff Lists

Draft Picks:
Pick #19 [1st Round] Adam Carriker
Pick #23 [1st Round] Charles Johnson
Pick #74 [3rd Round] Tony Hunt
Pick #83 [3rd Round] Stewart Bradley
Pick #99 [4th Round]
Pick #101 [4th Round]
Pick #111 [4th Round]
Pick #175 [6th Round]
Pick #207 [7th Round]

Team Needs:
ILB
DE/OLB Tweener
O-Line across the board
DB depth

Team Roster & Salaries:
Quarterback (3)
Batch, Charles 1,355,000
Greene, David 350,000
Roethlisberger, Ben 1,006,000

Total QB: 2,711,000

Running Back (5)
Haynes, Verron 840,000
Hunt, Tony 250,000
Kreider, Dan 950,000
Parker, Willie 2,425,000
Thoms, Anthony 350,000

Total RB: 4,815,000

Wide Receiver (6)
Holmes, Santonio 360,000
Lewis, Greg 550,000
Reid, Willie 360,000
Ward, Hines 3,585,000
Washington, Nate 350,000
Young, Walter 435,000

Total WR:
7,540,000

Tight End (2)
Miller, Heath 517,500
Tuman, Jerame 1,200,000

Total TE: 1,717,500

Offensive Line (8)
Colon, Willie 360,000
Essex, Trai 435,000
Faneca, Alan 3,375,000
Kemoeatu, Chris 435,000
Okobi, Chukky 2,000,000
Philip, Marvin 360,000
Simmons, Kendall 900,000
Smith, Marvel 4,200,000
Terrell, Claude 360,000

Total OL: 12,425,000

Defensive End (4)
Carriker, Adam 300,000
Keisel, Brett 2,650,000
Nua, Shaun 360,000
Smith, Aaron 3,500,000

Total DE: 6,810,000

Defensive Tackle (3)
Hampton, Casey 4,260,000
Hoke, Chris 900,000
Paxson, Scott 285,000


Total DT: 5,445,000

Linebacker (9)
Bradley, Stewart 250,000
Farrior, James 3,000,000
Foote, Larry 2,325,000
Haggans, Clark 2,465,000
Harrison Arnold 350,000
Harrison, James 1,100,000
Johnson, Charles 300,000
Kriewaldt, Clint 350,000
Peek, Antwan 600,000

Total LB: 10,740,000

Cornerback (6)
Colclough, Ricardo 510,000
Madison, Anthony 360,000
McFadden, Bryant 435,000
Taylor, Ivan 3,325,000
Townsend, DeShea 1,400,000

Total CB: 6,030,000

Safety (4)
Carter, Tyrone 700,000
Clark, Ryan 1,500,000
Polamalu, Troy 1,088,000
Smith, Anthony 360,000

Total S: 3,648,000

Long Snapper (1):
Warren, Greg 350,000

Total LS: 350,000

Kicker/Punter (2)
Gardocki, Chris 1,088,750
Tynes, Lawrence 850,000

Total K/P: 2,538,750

Salary Cap- $71,000,000
Total Salaries- $61 280 250
Cap Penalties- $1,377,000
Cap Room- $7,352,750

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I think the first situatuion we should discuss is what everyone wants to do with the Max Starks situation. In my opinion, we should give him a medium tenure. If he gets signed by another team, we have Willie Colon to take over his spot who, in my opinion, looked very impressive in his two starts. And we can also draft an OT first day with our extra first day pick from RFA. If he doesn't get signed by another team in RFA, we saved a little money. Any thoughts or opinions?
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Jdrocco01 wrote:
I think the first situatuion we should discuss is what everyone wants to do with the Max Starks situation. In my opinion, we should give him a medium tenure. If he gets signed, we have Willie Colon to take over his spot. And we can draft an OT first day with our extra first day pick from RFA. If he doesn't get signed, we saved a little money. Any thoughts or opinions?

Agreed. I think Max Starks is a good young player but he's certainly not irreplaceable. A medium tender won't cost too much. If he leaves, it gives us an extra draft pick to work with.

I'd like to know which players on the roster are expendable (from everybody). This can be for cap reasons, age or the fact that they flat out suck.

Also, I'd like to see a current depth chart from our Head Coach. We can work from there are figure out what positions we need.

Seeing as we have a new head coach, are we going to stick with a run first offense and 3-4 defense? Again, I'd like to hear everybody's opinion (no matter how off kilter it may be) and we can work from there.

I think 3-4 is the way to go in 2007 but looking to the future, perhaps we should consider a conversion to 4-3. 3-4 stalwarts like Joey Porter, aaron Smith, Troy Polamalu and Clark Haggans are all off contract in 2008 so if a change is in the offing, we should prepare now.

The offense is fine as is bar some changes being necessary on the O-Line. I'd like to see if we can get a Free Agent C or RG for the short term.
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azazaz7 wrote:
Jdrocco01 wrote:
I think the first situatuion we should discuss is what everyone wants to do with the Max Starks situation. In my opinion, we should give him a medium tenure. If he gets signed, we have Willie Colon to take over his spot. And we can draft an OT first day with our extra first day pick from RFA. If he doesn't get signed, we saved a little money. Any thoughts or opinions?

Agreed. I think Max Starks is a good young player but he's certainly not irreplaceable. A medium tender won't cost too much. If he leaves, it gives us an extra draft pick to work with.

I'd like to know which players on the roster are expendable (from everybody). This can be for cap reasons, age or the fact that they flat out suck.

Also, I'd like to see a current depth chart from our Head Coach. We can work from there are figure out what positions we need.

Also, seeing as we have a new head coach, are we going to stick with a run first offense and 3-4 defense? Again, I'd like to hear everybody's opinion (no matter how off kilter it may be) and we can work from there.



Agree with the both of you, Max isn't worth a first round tender.
Personally, the players that I think will be cut are :
logan (don't know if he's signed but def isn't coming back)
coclough (a 4th CB can easily be replaced and I don't think the fans will forgive him for what he did on the punt return, changed the whole season)
Barrett Brooks (doesn't even deserve to be mentioned)
Other players that might be cut inlcude:
Tyrone Carter (the steelers use an extra safety in nickel and dime and will probably use ryan clark now that smith is starting)
Cedrick Wilson (probably not, but if steelers plan on using 3rd or 4th round on WR then it might happen)
Verron Haynes (this is a long shot but if the steelers decide to spend a 2nd or 3rd rounder on RB and decide to sign davenport then maybe)
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Jdrocco01 wrote:
I think the first situatuion we should discuss is what everyone wants to do with the Max Starks situation. In my opinion, we should give him a medium tenure. If he gets signed by another team, we have Willie Colon to take over his spot who, in my opinion, looked very impressive in his two starts. And we can also draft an OT first day with our extra first day pick from RFA. If he doesn't get signed by another team in RFA, we saved a little money. Any thoughts or opinions?


Yeah, I agree with that, too.... Give Starks the medium tender - not sure exacltly what that is for 2007 but I think around 750k to $1 mil. Most likely he stays as a Steeler for 2007 - not too many RFAs change teams.

You're sort of gambling that he DOESN'T have a great season in 2007 in that case. But, as mentioned, even if you lose him, maybe Colon or Essex or a 2007 rookie steps in fairly seamlessly.




PER REQUEST FROM AZAZAZ7 -

our current cap as of January 12, 2007 - 12:30 pm EST -

Total salaries - 67,403,500
Free cap space - 3,596,500
players on roster - 55


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Current 2007 Depth Chart

Offense
QB
Ben Roethlisberger
Charlie Batch

HB
Willie Parker
Anthony Thomas
Verron Haynes
John Kuhn

FB
Dan Kreider

TE
Heath Miller
Jerame Tuman

FL
Hines Ward
Nate Washington [Slot]
Walter Young

SE
Santonio Holmes
Cedrick Wilson
Sean Morey
Willie Reid

LT
Marvel Smith
Trai Essex

LG
Alan Faneca
Chris Kemoeatu

C
Chukki Okobi
Marvin Philip

RG
Kendall Simmons
Chris Kemoeatu

RT
Max Starks
Willie Colon

Defense
LDE
Aaron Smith

NT
Casey Hampton
Chris Hoke

RDE
Brett Keisel
Travis Kirshke

LOLB
Clark Haggans
Antwan Peek
Arnold Harrison

LILB
James Farrior
Rian Wallace

RILB
Larry Foote
Clint Kriewaldt

ROLB
James Harrison
Al Singleton

LCB
Ike Taylor
Ricardo Coclough [Dime]
Anthony Madison

FS
Anthony Smith
Ryan Clark

SS
Troy Polamalu
Tyrone Carter

RCB
Bryant McFadden
Deshea Townsend [Nickle/Dime]
Jovon Johnson

Special Teams
K
Lawrence Tynes

P
Chris Gardocki

LS
Greg Warren

KR
Willie Reid
Ricardo Coclough

PR
Willie Reid


Note: I made a couple of adjustments from last years depth chart. If there are any questions or complaints, let me know and we can discuss it for a reasoning or possibly a change.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RangerD wrote:
Jdrocco01 wrote:
I think the first situatuion we should discuss is what everyone wants to do with the Max Starks situation. In my opinion, we should give him a medium tenure. If he gets signed by another team, we have Willie Colon to take over his spot who, in my opinion, looked very impressive in his two starts. And we can also draft an OT first day with our extra first day pick from RFA. If he doesn't get signed by another team in RFA, we saved a little money. Any thoughts or opinions?


Yeah, I agree with that, too.... Give Starks the medium tender - not sure exacltly what that is for 2007 but I think around 750k to $1 mil. Most likely he stays as a Steeler for 2007 - not too many RFAs change teams.

You're sort of gambling that he DOESN'T have a great season in 2007 in that case. But, as mentioned, even if you lose him, maybe Colon or Essex or a 2007 rookie steps in fairly seamlessly.

That's the idea. I think Willie Colon is more than capable of taking over. Do you have any thoughts on moving Colon to RG in the event that Starks remains?

If it's okay with everybody, I'm thinking about shopping Kendall Simmons around but am unsure whether or not Chris Kemoeatu is up for the task of replacing him. Colon seems like a good fit there. We could possibly move Colon to RG and have him compete with Kemoeatu. That would allow us bring in a project at RT to sit behind Starks for a year; how does Joe Staley sound?
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gseabrook26 wrote:
azazaz7 wrote:
Jdrocco01 wrote:
I think the first situatuion we should discuss is what everyone wants to do with the Max Starks situation. In my opinion, we should give him a medium tenure. If he gets signed, we have Willie Colon to take over his spot. And we can draft an OT first day with our extra first day pick from RFA. If he doesn't get signed, we saved a little money. Any thoughts or opinions?

Agreed. I think Max Starks is a good young player but he's certainly not irreplaceable. A medium tender won't cost too much. If he leaves, it gives us an extra draft pick to work with.

I'd like to know which players on the roster are expendable (from everybody). This can be for cap reasons, age or the fact that they flat out suck.

Also, I'd like to see a current depth chart from our Head Coach. We can work from there are figure out what positions we need.

Also, seeing as we have a new head coach, are we going to stick with a run first offense and 3-4 defense? Again, I'd like to hear everybody's opinion (no matter how off kilter it may be) and we can work from there.



Agree with the both of you, Max isn't worth a first round tender.
Personally, the players that I think will be cut are :
logan (don't know if he's signed but def isn't coming back)
coclough (a 4th CB can easily be replaced and I don't think the fans will forgive him for what he did on the punt return, changed the whole season)
Barrett Brooks (doesn't even deserve to be mentioned)
Other players that might be cut inlcude:
Tyrone Carter (the steelers use an extra safety in nickel and dime and will probably use ryan clark now that smith is starting)
Cedrick Wilson (probably not, but if steelers plan on using 3rd or 4th round on WR then it might happen)
Verron Haynes (this is a long shot but if the steelers decide to spend a 2nd or 3rd rounder on RB and decide to sign davenport then maybe)

Thanks for your input. I like your list of potential cuts. Verron Haynes is an interesting thought. I think he could possibly be used as trade bait in a player swap.

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azazaz7 wrote:
If it's okay with everybody, I'm thinking about shopping Kendall Simmons around but am unsure whether or not Chris Kemoeatu is up for the task of replacing him. Colon seems like a good fit there. We could possibly move Colon to RG and have him compete with Kemoeatu. That would allow us bring in a project at RT to sit behind Starks for a year; how does Joe Staley sound?


I agree to start shopping Simmons. I am really high on Colon. I would love to trade Simmons and move Colon to RG. Even if we lose Starks in RFA, we could move Essex to RT for the near future.

Could a scout start profiling RTs like Joe Staley, Doug Free, etc.?
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azazaz7 wrote:
gseabrook26 wrote:
azazaz7 wrote:
Jdrocco01 wrote:
I think the first situatuion we should discuss is what everyone wants to do with the Max Starks situation. In my opinion, we should give him a medium tenure. If he gets signed, we have Willie Colon to take over his spot. And we can draft an OT first day with our extra first day pick from RFA. If he doesn't get signed, we saved a little money. Any thoughts or opinions?

Agreed. I think Max Starks is a good young player but he's certainly not irreplaceable. A medium tender won't cost too much. If he leaves, it gives us an extra draft pick to work with.

I'd like to know which players on the roster are expendable (from everybody). This can be for cap reasons, age or the fact that they flat out suck.

Also, I'd like to see a current depth chart from our Head Coach. We can work from there are figure out what positions we need.

Also, seeing as we have a new head coach, are we going to stick with a run first offense and 3-4 defense? Again, I'd like to hear everybody's opinion (no matter how off kilter it may be) and we can work from there.



Agree with the both of you, Max isn't worth a first round tender.
Personally, the players that I think will be cut are :
logan (don't know if he's signed but def isn't coming back)
coclough (a 4th CB can easily be replaced and I don't think the fans will forgive him for what he did on the punt return, changed the whole season)
Barrett Brooks (doesn't even deserve to be mentioned)
Other players that might be cut inlcude:
Tyrone Carter (the steelers use an extra safety in nickel and dime and will probably use ryan clark now that smith is starting)
Cedrick Wilson (probably not, but if steelers plan on using 3rd or 4th round on WR then it might happen)
Verron Haynes (this is a long shot but if the steelers decide to spend a 2nd or 3rd rounder on RB and decide to sign davenport then maybe)

Thanks for your input. I like your list of potential cuts. Verron Haynes is an interesting thought. I think he could possibly be used as trade bait in a player swap.

Will I sign you up as a scout?



Sure..
Thanks, yeah I just don't really like Verron Haynes very much. He's a good blocker on 3rd down but I thought Najeh did a good enough job in his place. Haynes isn't nearly as good of a runner as Davenport either.

The other player who almost definitely will be cut is Chris Gardocki. I probably saw 12 games this year and not once did I see him reverse field position for us.
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azazaz7 wrote:
Agreed. I think Max Starks is a good young player but he's certainly not irreplaceable. A medium tender won't cost too much. If he leaves, it gives us an extra draft pick to work with.

I'd like to know which players on the roster are expendable (from everybody). This can be for cap reasons, age or the fact that they flat out suck.

Also, I'd like to see a current depth chart from our Head Coach. We can work from there are figure out what positions we need.

Seeing as we have a new head coach, are we going to stick with a run first offense and 3-4 defense? Again, I'd like to hear everybody's opinion (no matter how off kilter it may be) and we can work from there.

I think 3-4 is the way to go in 2007 but looking to the future, perhaps we should consider a conversion to 4-3. 3-4 stalwarts like Joey Porter, aaron Smith, Troy Polamalu and Clark Haggans are all off contract in 2008 so if a change is in the offing, we should prepare now.

The offense is fine as is bar some changes being necessary on the O-Line. I'd like to see if we can get a Free Agent C or RG for the short term.
I also agree with Max Starks, give him medium tender. If we resign him then good, if we dont then we have another draft pick to work with.

Expandable players(Cap hit; Cap hit if Cut or traded)
Joey Porter($6,387,083;$1,387,083)
Townsend Deshea($1,972,500;$1,717,500)
Cedric Wilson($2,400,000;$1,000,000)
Jeff Hartings($4,475,000;$875,000)
Travis Kirschke($2,153,333;$553,333)
Ricardo Colclough($747,225;$474,450)
Chris Gardocki($1,301,250;$425,000)
http://www.burghsportsguys.com/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=77&Itemid=48

I say stick with the 3-4 i think if we switch to the 4-3 we will be taking a step back bc im not sure if we have the personell to have a good 4-3 system for a couple years. But i do agree, if we would be switching to a 4-3 in the future we need to prepare for it now.
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If I remember from last year, we could not sign any FA so anyone ( Davenport) is not consitered on the team. I would ask for clarification on Starks since he is a RFA. We might just be able to decide to keep him. I think the people running the draft need ot let us know those rules.
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jebrick wrote:
If I remember from last year, we could not sign any FA so anyone ( Davenport) is not consitered on the team. I would ask for clarification on Starks since he is a RFA. We might just be able to decide to keep him. I think the people running the draft need ot let us know those rules.


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RFA and UFA period rules announced Friday, January 12th. LSUSAINT will lay out the rules on how the RFA and UFA periods will run in great detail. It will be important that you, as the GM, work hand in hand with your staff and specifically your Capologist during this period to make sure that you bid on the players you want while staying under your cap.


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I think we also should think about looking at a tall WR who can stretch the field as early as Round 2. Here are the receivers that I have found that match that criteria.

Jeff Samardzija, 6'5; 218 lbs.; Notre Dame

Dwayne Bowe, 6'3; 217 lbs.; Louisiana State

Robert Meachem, 6'3; 210 lbs.; Tennessee

Sidney Rice, 6'4; 200 lbs.; South Carolina

One of those receivers should be there at our Round 2 selection. Samardzija may just drop because of his baseball situatuion.
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Just a couple scouting reports on RT.

First Round:
Levi Brown, 6'5; 328 lbs.; Penn State
Useful Info: Awesome run blocker. Top RT in nation.

Justin Blalock, 6'4; 329 lbs.; Texas
Useful Info; Can start at either RT or OG. Superb in run blocking and pass blocking.

Second Round:
Joe Staley, 6'5; 300 lbs.; Central Michigan
Useful Info: One of the best pass blockers in the nation.

Arron Sears, 6'4; 320; Tennessee
Useful Info: Can start at either RT or OG. Awesome run blocker. Solid pass blocker.

Third Round:
Ryan Harris, 6'5; 292 lbs.; Notre Dame
Useful Info: Great pass blocker. Pass blocked for Brady Quinn.
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