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harold650


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: AND ALL I ASK THIS YEAR IS TO Reply with quote

FIX ONE AREA OF OUR TEAM. But really fix it correctly.

If it is the offensive line, then go all out in FA and drafting to fix that area. If defensive line, do the same.

Fixing could mean, heaven forbid, not drafting the best available player after the first round if a good player at your need position is available. If one bad area were fixed, then could build from that point.

So: QB, OL, DL, DB, RB or whatever. Please, Phil, fix one area.

Good thinking, wrong thinking, or just crazy. What do you think?

Thanks,

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sign tim couch


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that you can eliminate 2 of those 5 things. If you fix the OL, you fix QB and RB.
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shoffma1999


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that idea as well. I think we can also get some good players at other positions though as well. This is kind of what we did last draft. We fixed our Linebacking unit, and will likely have a very strong unit for the future. I would like to see us do the same this year with the lines.
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BrownsFan731


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why I'm a big fan of this offseason.

Sign:
Clements
Leonard Davis (Steinbach to ARI, Dielman to stay in SD)
Cory Redding
Travis Taylor
Damon Huard

Re-Sign
Brian Russell
Nick Eason
Hank Fraley

Draft Scenarios:
1. DET takes Quinn- Joe Thomas
2. Amobi Okoye DE/NT
3. Justin Harrell
4. Samson Satele

1. DET takes Thomas- Brady Quinn
2. Joe Staley or Levi Brown
3. Justin Harrell
4. Samson Satele
5. Stanley Doughtny (sp?) NT South Carolina

1. DET take Thomas- Adrian Peterson
2. Joe Staley or Levi Brown
3. Justin Harrell
4. Samson Satele
5. Stanley Doughtny (sp?) NT South Carolina

1. DET takes Thomas- trade down for #5 or #6 and 3rd rd.-Alan Branch
2. Joe Staley or Levi Brown
3a. Justin Harrell
3b. Jasper Brinkley ILB South Carolina
4. Samson Satele
5. Stanley Doughtny (sp?) NT South Carolina

1. DET take Thomas- trade down to #7-#9 acquire extra 2nd-Marshawn Lynch
2a. Joe Staley or Levi Brown
2b. David Harris ILB
3. Justin Harrell
4. Samson Satele
5. Stanley Doughtny (sp?) NT South Carolina
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shoffma1999


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dream offseason would be this:

Free Agency Signings: Eric Steinbach, Damon Huard or other vet QB, Tarrell Sands, and either Nate Clements or Asante Samuel.

Draft:

Rd 1: Trade back - get extra 2nd and 4th pick; Alan Branch, DE Michigan
Rd 2: Troy Smith, QB Ohio State
Rd 2: Joe Staley, LT Central Michigan
Rd 3: Kyle Young, C Fresno State
Rd 4: Manuel Ramirez, OG Texas Tech; or Samson Satele, OG Hawaii
Rd 4: Justin Harrell, DE Tennessee
Rd 5: Tavarous Bain, CB Hampton
Rd 6: Paul Solila, NT Utah or South Carolina - can't remember
Rd 7: Best available WR/Punt Returner

Then in 08' we can get our franchise RB.
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Spectre


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sign tim couch wrote:
I think that you can eliminate 2 of those 5 things. If you fix the OL, you fix QB and RB.


If you fix o-line on this team, I don't see how you can "fix" a RB who was never that good to begin with.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spectre wrote:
sign tim couch wrote:
I think that you can eliminate 2 of those 5 things. If you fix the OL, you fix QB and RB.


If you fix o-line on this team, I don't see how you can "fix" a RB who was never that good to begin with.



How cant a 1000 yard back not be good in the nfl?
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RealityControl


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoffma1999 wrote:
My dream offseason would be this:

Free Agency Signings: Eric Steinbach, Damon Huard or other vet QB, Tarrell Sands, and either Nate Clements or Asante Samuel.

Draft:

Rd 1: Trade back - get extra 2nd and 4th pick; Alan Branch, DE Michigan
Rd 2: Troy Smith, QB Ohio State
Rd 2: Joe Staley, LT Central Michigan
Rd 3: Kyle Young, C Fresno State
Rd 4: Manuel Ramirez, OG Texas Tech; or Samson Satele, OG Hawaii
Rd 4: Justin Harrell, DE Tennessee
Rd 5: Tavarous Bain, CB Hampton
Rd 6: Paul Solila, NT Utah or South Carolina - can't remember
Rd 7: Best available WR/Punt Returner

Then in 08' we can get our franchise RB.


Replace Smith with a corner or Mike Bush/Tony Hunt or some other first day RB and it would be an amazing draft!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparroww77 wrote:
Spectre wrote:
sign tim couch wrote:
I think that you can eliminate 2 of those 5 things. If you fix the OL, you fix QB and RB.


If you fix o-line on this team, I don't see how you can "fix" a RB who was never that good to begin with.



How cant a 1000 yard back not be good in the nfl?


1000 yards isn't special anymore now that the NFL plays 16 games. To do what Droughns did, he only needed to average 77 yards per game. Note: it took him a franchise record 309 carries for him to do it. Half the NFL had a 1,000 yard rusher last year and Droughns' 4.0 YPC ranked him third worst among them. Finally, with Droughns as our feature runner, we rushed for less than we did the year before with a horrid line and bad backs (1657 to 1503), and with the same putrid efficiency (3.8 YPC).

As much as Droughns has been hyped up as Cleveland's "feature back", he really hasn't done much to earn all the love he gets. He's decent, but by no means do I consider him a great starting back with a better line.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spectre wrote:
sparroww77 wrote:
Spectre wrote:
sign tim couch wrote:
I think that you can eliminate 2 of those 5 things. If you fix the OL, you fix QB and RB.


If you fix o-line on this team, I don't see how you can "fix" a RB who was never that good to begin with.



How cant a 1000 yard back not be good in the nfl?


1000 yards isn't special anymore now that the NFL plays 16 games. To do what Droughns did, he only needed to average 77 yards per game. Note: it took him a franchise record 309 carries for him to do it. Half the NFL had a 1,000 yard rusher last year and Droughns' 4.0 YPC ranked him third worst among them. Finally, with Droughns as our feature runner, we rushed for less than we did the year before with a horrid line and bad backs (1657 to 1503), and with the same putrid efficiency (3.8 YPC).

As much as Droughns has been hyped up as Cleveland's "feature back", he really hasn't done much to earn all the love he gets. He's decent, but by no means do I consider him a great starting back with a better line.


Denver has pretty much proved, repeatedly, that as long as you have a "decent" back and a good line, you'll be successful. A good O-line will make any of our RBs look better.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spectre wrote:
sign tim couch wrote:
I think that you can eliminate 2 of those 5 things. If you fix the OL, you fix QB and RB.


If you fix o-line on this team, I don't see how you can "fix" a RB who was never that good to begin with.


If you get a good RB that won't fix the O-line, and it probably won't get you too many more wins either

O-lines open up wholes, give the skills players room and time to work with...that equals better production from them...that equals more time of offense, less time for defense = more rest for defense=some decent improvement all around

if we adress the oline and get one somewhat decent rb in fa to go with what we have already, that should make the run game good enough (for me at least) to wait for 08 when the options for a RB will be much better IMO...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RealityControl wrote:
shoffma1999 wrote:
My dream offseason would be this:

Free Agency Signings: Eric Steinbach, Damon Huard or other vet QB, Tarrell Sands, and either Nate Clements or Asante Samuel.

Draft:

Rd 1: Trade back - get extra 2nd and 4th pick; Alan Branch, DE Michigan
Rd 2: Troy Smith, QB Ohio State
Rd 2: Joe Staley, LT Central Michigan
Rd 3: Kyle Young, C Fresno State
Rd 4: Manuel Ramirez, OG Texas Tech; or Samson Satele, OG Hawaii
Rd 4: Justin Harrell, DE Tennessee
Rd 5: Tavarous Bain, CB Hampton
Rd 6: Paul Solila, NT Utah or South Carolina - can't remember
Rd 7: Best available WR/Punt Returner

Then in 08' we can get our franchise RB.


Replace Smith with a corner or Mike Bush/Tony Hunt or some other first day RB and it would be an amazing draft!


I wouldn't mind that either. I think Bush will be a great back, he has versatility and size that is pretty much unmatched. I wouldn't mind a corner either so long as one of the following falls to the 2nd: Leon Hall, Antoine Cason, Darrelle Revis, or Marcus McCauley, which I could see happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparroww77 wrote:
Spectre wrote:
sign tim couch wrote:
I think that you can eliminate 2 of those 5 things. If you fix the OL, you fix QB and RB.


If you fix o-line on this team, I don't see how you can "fix" a RB who was never that good to begin with.



How cant a 1000 yard back not be good in the nfl?


Because in a 16 game schedule... A back only has to average 66 yrds a game to get to 1,000... Confused
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