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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: The Official '07 Draft Discussion Thread Reply with quote

Someone mentioned doing this, but it looks like we never got around to doing it. It'd be easy to keep all discussions of draft strategies, prospects, etc. in one thread, so I thought it'd be a good idea to this now.

Looking at things, we may actually have something with Leon Washington and Cedric Houston.

Looking at what we've got right now, this is what I'd do for the first day.(* indicates juniors)

Let's just say we're picking 15th overall, Washington misses out on the playoffs and is picking 18th overall.

Trade back from 15th overall to 25th overall, acquiring the 57th overall pick in the process.

1st round, pick 25(25th overall) - Lamarr Woodley, DE/OLB, Michigan
What we need to do is get a player to play along with Thomas, not replace him. Woodley is an animal, and would be a star playing OLB with Thomas, and moving Hobson inside as depth would only do good for him.

2nd round, pick 15(47th overall) - Alan Branch, NT, Michigan*
The main problem with the defense is we don't have a porker clogging up the middle. Alan Branch is 6'6, 330 pounds and is probably the best fit for a 3-4 nose in the draft. He is tall, but height won't matter if the guy's got good technique, which can be coached.

2nd round, pick 18(50th overall) - Brian Leonard, RB/FB, Rutgers
Ah, the local guy everybody wants their hands on. Brian Leonard is as much as a playmaker as anybody has ever been at the fullback position. He runs like a running back, blocks like a fullback, and catches like a tight end. One could go as far to say that he's the best fullback prospect ever.

2nd round, pick 25(57th overall) - Doug Free, OT, Northern Illinois
At 6'7, 315 pounds he has almost identical size to 4th overall pick D'Brickashaw Ferguson. Though primarily a left tackle, he has experience playing right tackle, and is drafted with the intention of being moved there. Anthony Clement is awful, and is only here for a year anyway, and Adrian Jones has also been horrid and actually lost the job to Clement.

3rd round, pick 15(79th overall) - Brian Daniels, OG, Colorado
Kendall only has a year or two left, so the Jets take Brian Daniels and complete their transformation of the offensive line.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beautiful. i dont disagree with any pick. if Washington and Houston dont work out then we can always get the top back in 08.

http://clemsontigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/richardson_barry00.html

i really like this guy for RT, can prob be gotten 3rd-4th round.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st round, pick 25(25th overall) - Justin Blalock, OG, Texas-
So now we have our future at LT and Center. So lets finish the job. I really don't like the play of Brandon Moore on the right side. He has made some bad plays and has committed far too many penalties. Also, Kendall is getting old and needs a replacement soon. I like Blalock although hes bigger than the typical guard for Mangini's scheme. If we can get him at the 25th pick, I would be estatic.

2nd round, pick 15(47th overall) - Alan Branch, NT, Michigan-
Pretty sure we need a nose tackle..and although it is our biggest need, Brandh is not worth a first round pick. I would much rather see NT filled with a big time free agent move, but if not i would definently hope for a NT high in the draft.

2nd round, pick 18(50th overall) - Victor Abiamiri, DE/LB, Notre Dame
He can be another OLB to mix in, as he is a great pass rusher off the edge. After Lamarr Wodley, IMO he is the best 3-4 OLB in the draft.

2nd round, pick 25(57th overall) - Doug Free, OT, Northern Illinois
Clements and Jones have been struggling on the other side, and Doug free can come in an compete with them. Hes the perfect size to fit Mangini's scheme, similar to D'brickashaw.

3rd round, pick 15(79th overall) - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
Staying with the defensive line. Lets afce it, Kimo has been under perforiming and theres very little to no depth behind him an Ellis. Carriker is perfect for the 3-4 end with his size.

Ive said this before, but if we do not go with a running back in the first round, we should not go for one at all. Another late round RB would just be another RB to add to our mix..which is not what the jets need. And honestly, there is no back worth taking with the 25th pick that will still be on the board.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

25th overall...LaMarr Woodley LB
47th overall...Alan Branch NT
50th overall...Zach Miller TE
79th overall...Barry Richardson OT
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIchael Bush could potentially fall that low. Additionally look into Amobi Okoye.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sandwich...

Adam Carriker is 6'6'' 295 pounds and is said to be as fast as Mario Williams. He's not going in the 3rd round.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there rnt any good backs comin up in 08 if Lynch and AP both enter 07
i say we try to get Lynch instead of a DE/OLB. if were desperate for one we can get one 2nd round
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about that kid from Missouri in the 2nd or 3rd round? I think his name is Brian Smith. I hear he's a beast and very fast but undersized. Sounds like a pass rush specialist to me.

Also, I think we're gonna have to draft a 1st day RB or get one in free agency because I just don't see a starter on this roster even with Washington having a good day.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unless someone randomly terminates a good rbs contract inwhich case he would have to be doing somthing wrong, theres no good big name rbs that will be free agents. we might be able to steal bush in the second which would be cool.

~this is wat i hope for:
1st round- Marshawn Lynch he might not fall to us but we could get him through trade if not
2nd round- Frank Okam if he falls or Alan Branch both are juniors hopefully theys enter Quinn Pitcock might fall here to
2nd round- Brian Leonard
3rd-Ben Grubbs from Auburn ( how do u think kenny irons got all those yards?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we want one of the good backs then we are going to have to play pretty poorly for the rest of the year. Thankfully Washington has been playing badly so far so we could have a potential high second round pick from them. Also let face facts size and talent are wonderfully things but unless they can pass Magini's tests they aren't going to be part of our football team. Schegl and Smith in the 3rd round. I like them both but I'm just saying. My question for you guys is would you rather go 4 and 12/5-11/or 6-10 get the picks or go 9 and 7 and miss the playoffs?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Adam Carriker (Nebraska)

This guy has protypical size and athleticism to be a great 3-4 end. Along with that, he has the versatility to move inside at defensive tackle if we switch to a 4-3 look. Richard Seymour is a HUGE part of that Patriot defense and he was also a first round pick. Don't be suprised if Mangini follows suit and brings in a top caliber 3-4 end. Remember, being a defensive backs coach means understanding that a D Back's job is much easier with a persistent pass rush up front.

2a. Brian Smith (Missouri)

A lot of people are talking about Gaines Adams and Quentin Moses as being the best defensive ends to move to outside linebacker in the 3-4 scheme. Both of their stats have been less than spectacular, unlike Brian Smith who has been performing well and has been a big part in Missouri's so far undefeated season. Though he's a little on the light side, his height and frame allow for him to put on more weight. He has all the skills and athleticism to play rush linebacker.

2b. RB/FB Brian Leonard (Rutgers)

Though he may not fall this far to us, it is essential in any New York Jets mock draft to have us selecting Brian Leonard. Leonard is a beast, no matter at which position he plays. Mangini loves versatility and this guy has it...he can play fullback, halfback, tight end, h-back, etc. If you think this guy's blocking is poor, look at Ray Rice's stats. He must be contributing some way or another.

3. DT Amobi Okoye (Louisville)

Hardworking, bright. IDK, sounds like Mangini mold to me. He has the height to play nose tackle and he can certainly add the weight to become better suited for the position. He's young which is certainly a plus. Maybe this guy is the cure for our run problems.

4. OG or OT

With Mangini being a defensive guru and the way our run D has played so far this season, I'm betting that he'll want to add more talent to help finish building his championship defense. I think the extra defensive talent can help Jonathan Vilma in his adjustment to the 3-4.

Offense has not shown many holes that need to be filled, only that we need some extra help along the line to help plow the way for our running backs. Houston and Washington have looked great so far with our line that has been unable to open up holes. Just think of what they can do if we add more talent up front in the trenches along with the maturation of D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold.

We definitely need FA help on the line and depth on the defensive side of the ball. We also can't afford to make any reaches in this year's Draft like we did last year.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abe56 wrote:
Anthony Spencer - Purdue



Spencer through 5 games stats are

43 tackles
13.5 TFL
6.5 sacks
3 PD's
2 FF
1 blocked kick


The guy is beast, he is 6-3 261 and runs a 4.6 40. Come draft time I say he will be drafted late 1st or early second because the guy might be the top 3-4 OLB in the draft, even though I think his stock right now is late second early third. With a great combine he can hit mid to low first.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amboki okoye is not a NT, he is basically identical to size with Robertson and he is horrible at NT. i pray we dont waste another first day pick on a hybrid FB.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetfan704 wrote:
amboki okoye is not a NT, he is basically identical to size with Robertson and he is horrible at NT. i pray we dont waste another first day pick on a hybrid FB.


I hope you have a basis for what you are saying. Information, stats, etc. Back up what you have to say.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jetfan704 wrote:
amboki okoye is not a NT, he is basically identical to size with Robertson and he is horrible at NT. i pray we dont waste another first day pick on a hybrid FB.


The difference is that he plays NT at Louisville and he has the potential to gain some weight, which most players inevitably do when they go up to the next level. Players usually get bigger from HS to College to professional. Okoye could definitely put on another 8 pounds and be the same size as Casey Hampton.

And size isn't everything. Okoye is different from Robertson because Okoye is not a pass rushing DT like Robertson, who was destined to fail in this system because he should be in more of a Warren Sapp role, which he failed to complete simply because he appears lazy and unmotivated.
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