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Cowboys73 
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LionsFan01 
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| He certainly has the size for it but I think he's better suited at a DT in a 4-3 scheme because that utilizes his abilities better. He's more than just a run stuffer and a plug in the middle because he has phenomenal agility and acceleration for a man his size which allows him to get alot of pressure on the QB from his position. He could also be a very good DE in a 3-4 scheme ala Richard Seymour. |
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sbrown 
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| LionsFan01 wrote: | | He certainly has the size for it but I think he's better suited at a DT in a 4-3 scheme because that utilizes his abilities better. He's more than just a run stuffer and a plug in the middle because he has phenomenal agility and acceleration for a man his size which allows him to get alot of pressure on the QB from his position. He could also be a very good DE in a 3-4 scheme ala Richard Seymour. |
This is exactly what I think about him. You'll see in many post that I have written in the 9er forum, that I think we need this guy because of his penetrating ability getting to the QB. I think he would be an outstanding End in a 3-4. _________________
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plan9misfit 

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He's tpp big to be a 3-4 DE. They tend to be in the 295-305 range, not 330+. He would be a very good 3-4 NT because of his abilities to take on double teams and due to his runs stuffing ability. _________________
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Cowboys73 
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:10 am Post subject: |
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This is starting to sound like last years Ngata threads about him being an end or a NT in the 3-4. I definetly dont seem as a DE in the 3-4 he may be a good athelete for his size but Seymore is more like 6'6 310 and similiar to chris canty in that they are tall and have enormous wing spans. _________________
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draftguru151 
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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He is too tall and doesn't play with enough leverage to play NT in a 3-4. NTs are around 6-1/6-2. I think he can be a very good 3-4 DE and that is where I think he is best suited. _________________
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Olympia Martin 
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| The biggest problem with slotting draft prospects into NFL positions is the height - weight distinction. Just because a player is 6'6 and 330lbs doesnt mean he is a great fit as a 3-4 NT. I like the question implied in the initial post as to where he fits into the NFL, but people shouldnt just assume he is a great fit in a 3-4 because of height and weight. There is a lot more to it than that. |
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Cowboys73 
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Olympia Martin wrote: | | The biggest problem with slotting draft prospects into NFL positions is the height - weight distinction. Just because a player is 6'6 and 330lbs doesnt mean he is a great fit as a 3-4 NT. I like the question implied in the initial post as to where he fits into the NFL, but people shouldnt just assume he is a great fit in a 3-4 because of height and weight. There is a lot more to it than that. |
I was asking if he plays like a NT, Does he have a strong lower body does demand double teams, non stop motor, Things that make a great NT. _________________
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titan52490 
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| draftguru151 wrote: | | He is too tall and doesn't play with enough leverage to play NT in a 3-4. NTs are around 6-1/6-2. I think he can be a very good 3-4 DE and that is where I think he is best suited. |
BS. Ted Washington is 6-5, he may be the greatest NT ever.
Jamal Williams-6'3"
Gabe Watson(who could play nose)-6'4" _________________
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Cowboys73 
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| titan52490 wrote: | | draftguru151 wrote: | | He is too tall and doesn't play with enough leverage to play NT in a 3-4. NTs are around 6-1/6-2. I think he can be a very good 3-4 DE and that is where I think he is best suited. |
BS. Ted Washington is 6-5, he may be the greatest NT ever.
Jamal Williams-6'3"
Gabe Watson(who could play nose)-6'4" |
What do you want hes a fins fan. J/k
I think he would be a great NT in the dallas Defense. _________________
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diezjabronie
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Alan Branch is 6-6 330.
He has the ability to play NT in the NFL.
He is a first-round pick when he comes out. _________________
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LionsFan01 
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| When I think of a NT, I think of a big, run stuffer who's expected to plug the middle of the line and not much more. I think if Branch was used as a NT, he could be very effective. But I think he could be an even better 4-3 DT because of his ability to get into the backfield. I would compare him favorably to Shaun Rogers. Huge guy with unbelievable quickness and agility on the inside which allows him to get to the QB more than most DT's. I think former Wolverine Gabe Watson is a NT but not Branch. Watson couldn't get to the QB like Branch can. |
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sbrown 
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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| LionsFan01 wrote: | | When I think of a NT, I think of a big, run stuffer who's expected to plug the middle of the line and not much more. I think if Branch was used as a NT, he could be very effective. But I think he could be an even better 4-3 DT because of his ability to get into the backfield. I would compare him favorably to Shaun Rogers. Huge guy with unbelievable quickness and agility on the inside which allows him to get to the QB more than most DT's. I think former Wolverine Gabe Watson is a NT but not Branch. Watson couldn't get to the QB like Branch can. |
Well look at Jamal "big cat" Williams who plays DT in the 3-4 and also peetrates the line to get after the QB. How many plays does he make behind the line. Plenty of them. branch would be the same way. _________________
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djvenditti274
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I'd be all for him going to the Browns, hopefully Big Teddy will still be around to teach him a thing or two if we got him...
and yeah if he can stuff the run and be an effective pass rusher, so what...I doubt any coaches that run a 3-4 will say no because he can pass rush well and get in the backfield |
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draftguru151 
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This is why I don't post here often. I like to post places where people realize some guys are the exception not the example. Yes Ted Washington did it, but he is also one of the biggest human beings in the world. Williams is 6-3 350, not 6-6 330 (I've heard Branch is closer to 315). _________________
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