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rav5220


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:30 pm    Post subject: T Sizzle? Reply with quote

Why is it that hee would have to go back to DE if we went to a 4-3? What is the difference at OLB in the 3-4 and the 4-3. And if he made the transition from DE to OLb, He should be able to switch from 3-4 OLB to 4-3 OLB. He is a pro bowler there already in his second year!!!!! And i would rather move A dalius Thomas to De because he is a little bit bigger than Suggs and fast as all hell for a big guy. WHat do you think?
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L-Dawg20


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good point!!! but Suggs in my eyes might be as good as if not better then Dwight freeney.... so we move him back to DE and gain 13-16 sacks.... which is huge. Also just his presence on the DL will help people like Weaver to make more plays!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the weak point of the D is the DLine. He holds the record for most sacks in NCAA History. Thomas is a lil big for OLB but he will help with the run defense and ray and boulware can cover and rush the QB. Now that we have the best secondary we can what we want on the front 7.
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Swedishraven


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suggs strength is the passrush. He's one of the best rushers in the league. So he needs to be in a position where he gets the best possible chance to get his sacks. In a 3-4 that is as an OLB and in the 4-3 that is as an end. Playing him as a 4-3 OLB would be a waste of his talent IMO.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swedish raven is right. Suggs is best rushing the passer. OLBs in the 4-3 do much less pass rushing then in then 3-4. The OLB in the 3-4 is basically a faster 4-3 DE that has more responsibilites in coverage. I think Suggs will be fine at DE in 4-3, if hes not doing anything after a few weeks switch him to the OLB in the 4-3, however im not sure that would fit him well as it would be his 3rd new position in 4 years(4-3DE, 3-4OLB, 4-3OLB) Also Adalius Thomas has expierence in the 4-3 OLB as thats what he played alot in 2000 and 2001.

Plus dont forget about the possbility of the rare and dangers 4-6! That might be the best formation of all for Suggs.
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rav5220


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea. Wut is the 4-6? Is it like no safeties and two corners? If so that would be even scarier!!!! Cus we have the best defense and the league and it will only get better!!!!
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mic79e


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 4-6 only has one safety who plays deep.

Swedishraven and Raven5255 pretty much covered the points about Suggs and the difference between a 3-4 LB and a 4-3 LB. I think Suggs could play WSLB in a 4-3 but it would mean that he'd rush the QB a lot less than if he where playing RE in a 4-3. So I think he is probably best off at RE, if he can hold up against the run.

The other thing everyone needs to remember about this, is that we are only talking about 1st and 2nd down. Suggs always plays end in pass rushing situations (i.e. 3rd and long, nickel and dime packages), and that is when he gets his most sacks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what comparison would you make of terrells suggs to another DE? dwight freeney? mike strahan (probably not)? in college he was a speed rusher. when he was told to bulk up by NFL scouts because they weren't sure if his size would hold up against NFL OT's. thats why he ran a 4.8 40, he had lost some of speed by bulking up. thats why he dropped to us in the draft and when he learned he was going to be a OLB, he was allowed to get down to his college weight, regaining that speed. how will he consistently hold up as a DE? i'm not that worried honestly, he was a monster prospect as a DE coming out of college despite his size and he held up well in the nickel and dime situations when he picked up his sacks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other advantage in having Suggs at DE is that with a hopefully healthy Boulware on the same side, offenses will have to keep extra guys to block all of that speed coming off the end. You can't double Boulware and Suggs. Look how good McCrary was on that end when Boulware was healthy.
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