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///mcompact


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bananabucket wrote:
Well yeah an NFL player shoplifting from a convenience store did sound a little far-fetched.


Years ago it would but then Joseph Randle (aka: Underwear bandit) happened. Also, Lucky's weird dog kidnapping at the hands of some semi-famous rapper? What is that?!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kind of a bad look to cut a guy for a PR win who turned out to be completely innocent regardless of if he was expected to make the team or not.
It's a very bad look and also makes them look like hypocrites. They'll cut a guy instantly without even finding out if he's actually guilty or not as long as he's not important to the team. If you're a superstar, then they stand behind them. Not just the Cowboys either. Almost every team operates like that and they insult our intelligence by acting like it's the same for all players, which clearly it's not.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ketchup wrote:
Stevein2012 wrote:
Kind of a bad look to cut a guy for a PR win who turned out to be completely innocent regardless of if he was expected to make the team or not.
It's a very bad look and also makes them look like hypocrites. They'll cut a guy instantly without even finding out if he's actually guilty or not as long as he's not important to the team. If you're a superstar, then they stand behind them. Not just the Cowboys either. Almost every team operates like that and they insult our intelligence by acting like it's the same for all players, which clearly it's not.


Like you said, not new and not exclusive to the Cowboys. If Roethlisberger was a UDFA, 3rd string QB for the Steelers back in the day, he'd be cut.

We Cowboys fans call it getting "Jimmy Johnson'd". Jimmy openly admitted that top players get a longer leash. If you're easily replaceable, you gone, baby.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whitehead is furious at the Cowboys apparently. Said they they didn't give him a chance to prove he was innocent and just assumed he was lying. With all the arrests and PED accusations involving the Cowboys lately I guess it was a safe assumption on the Cowboys part. Laughing
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First his dog is kidnapped

Then he's falsely accused of shoplifting

Then he got fired

Damnnnnnn
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kudos to the guy who used Whitehead's info when he got arrested
NFL players need a "fall guy" so they don't get in trouble, and this dude just reversed it by using an NFL player as his "fall guy".
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Hope the NFLPA gets involved.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very bizarre story.

You'd think the Cowboys would do their due diligence and at least check his story, they would've seen he was on an airplane the day he was supposedly arrested.
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///mcompact wrote:
Ketchup wrote:
Stevein2012 wrote:
Kind of a bad look to cut a guy for a PR win who turned out to be completely innocent regardless of if he was expected to make the team or not.
It's a very bad look and also makes them look like hypocrites. They'll cut a guy instantly without even finding out if he's actually guilty or not as long as he's not important to the team. If you're a superstar, then they stand behind them. Not just the Cowboys either. Almost every team operates like that and they insult our intelligence by acting like it's the same for all players, which clearly it's not.


Like you said, not new and not exclusive to the Cowboys. If Roethlisberger was a UDFA, 3rd string QB for the Steelers back in the day, he'd be cut.

We Cowboys fans call it getting "Jimmy Johnson'd". Jimmy openly admitted that top players get a longer leash. If you're easily replaceable, you gone, baby.


Lool dont be disingenuous, you know this is ain't the same thing. Now the Cowboys look like a joke.
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reckless123 wrote:
///mcompact wrote:
Ketchup wrote:
Stevein2012 wrote:
Kind of a bad look to cut a guy for a PR win who turned out to be completely innocent regardless of if he was expected to make the team or not.
It's a very bad look and also makes them look like hypocrites. They'll cut a guy instantly without even finding out if he's actually guilty or not as long as he's not important to the team. If you're a superstar, then they stand behind them. Not just the Cowboys either. Almost every team operates like that and they insult our intelligence by acting like it's the same for all players, which clearly it's not.


Like you said, not new and not exclusive to the Cowboys. If Roethlisberger was a UDFA, 3rd string QB for the Steelers back in the day, he'd be cut.

We Cowboys fans call it getting "Jimmy Johnson'd". Jimmy openly admitted that top players get a longer leash. If you're easily replaceable, you gone, baby.


Lool dont be disingenuous, you know this is ain't the same thing. Now the Cowboys look like a joke.


They cut him because their legal team looked into it and said "Yep...Lucky done goofed". In light of mounting pressure from other player offenses, Lucky having past transgressions and his extreme unlikelihood of making 53-man roster...he got cut. He got "Jimmy Johnson'd". If this was a better WR like Terrence Williams, they would've taken the heat and stuck their neck out for him. Hypocrisy in standards? Absolutely.

What is disingenuous with that?
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///mcompact wrote:
reckless123 wrote:
///mcompact wrote:
Ketchup wrote:
Stevein2012 wrote:
Kind of a bad look to cut a guy for a PR win who turned out to be completely innocent regardless of if he was expected to make the team or not.
It's a very bad look and also makes them look like hypocrites. They'll cut a guy instantly without even finding out if he's actually guilty or not as long as he's not important to the team. If you're a superstar, then they stand behind them. Not just the Cowboys either. Almost every team operates like that and they insult our intelligence by acting like it's the same for all players, which clearly it's not.


Like you said, not new and not exclusive to the Cowboys. If Roethlisberger was a UDFA, 3rd string QB for the Steelers back in the day, he'd be cut.

We Cowboys fans call it getting "Jimmy Johnson'd". Jimmy openly admitted that top players get a longer leash. If you're easily replaceable, you gone, baby.


Lool dont be disingenuous, you know this is ain't the same thing. Now the Cowboys look like a joke.


They cut him because their legal team looked into it and said "Yep...Lucky done goofed". In light of mounting pressure from other player offenses, Lucky having past transgressions and his extreme unlikelihood of making 53-man roster...he got cut. He got "Jimmy Johnson'd". If this was a better WR like Terrence Williams, they would've taken the heat and stuck their neck out for him. Hypocrisy in standards? Absolutely.

What is disingenuous with that?


If they looked into like you claim then he wouldn't have been cut.

I get the concept and it's not foreign but this situation is vastly different to what we normally see. This is a false accusation or an arrest, a guy was mistakenly identified and he got cut.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the logic is they didn't think he was gonna make it anyways so cya.

That being said, wow this looks REALLY stupid right now.
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reckless123 wrote:
///mcompact wrote:
reckless123 wrote:
///mcompact wrote:
Ketchup wrote:
Stevein2012 wrote:
Kind of a bad look to cut a guy for a PR win who turned out to be completely innocent regardless of if he was expected to make the team or not.
It's a very bad look and also makes them look like hypocrites. They'll cut a guy instantly without even finding out if he's actually guilty or not as long as he's not important to the team. If you're a superstar, then they stand behind them. Not just the Cowboys either. Almost every team operates like that and they insult our intelligence by acting like it's the same for all players, which clearly it's not.


Like you said, not new and not exclusive to the Cowboys. If Roethlisberger was a UDFA, 3rd string QB for the Steelers back in the day, he'd be cut.

We Cowboys fans call it getting "Jimmy Johnson'd". Jimmy openly admitted that top players get a longer leash. If you're easily replaceable, you gone, baby.


Lool dont be disingenuous, you know this is ain't the same thing. Now the Cowboys look like a joke.


They cut him because their legal team looked into it and said "Yep...Lucky done goofed". In light of mounting pressure from other player offenses, Lucky having past transgressions and his extreme unlikelihood of making 53-man roster...he got cut. He got "Jimmy Johnson'd". If this was a better WR like Terrence Williams, they would've taken the heat and stuck their neck out for him. Hypocrisy in standards? Absolutely.

What is disingenuous with that?


If they looked into like you claim then he wouldn't have been cut.

I get the concept and it's not foreign but this situation is vastly different to what we normally see. This is a false accusation or an arrest, a guy was mistakenly identified and he got cut.


I don't disagree. They knee-jerked based on all of the heat from the past month and the fact that he was very expendable (absolutely not making the 53). His was the sacrifice.

Hind-sight says they should have waited a day or two to let it flesh-out, but I don't fully fault Garrett's initial gut instincts on this one (and trust me...I find fault with Garrett...especially on game days). It was a perfect storm. Lucky previously didn't disclose getting into a car accident and Garrett was blind-sided during a press conference about it (looked like a fool). Surely, that was still fresh in Jason's mind and thought this was more of the same. It didn't help that Lucky didn't show for the final pre-game practice before boarding a plane to play you guys in NY. Lucky was not a bad dude, but he was not talented enough to cover for his warts.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What irks me is that the Cowboys acted like they didn't make a mistake. Just admit that you jumped the gun and then make whatever excuse you want.
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Joe_is_the_best wrote:
What irks me is that the Cowboys acted like they didn't make a mistake. Just admit that you jumped the gun and then make whatever excuse you want.


He was going to get cut regardless.

Switzer was taking his spot on the roster. Showed up late to team meetings because he was partying last season. He was on a really short leash already with the coaches.

Hey its [inappropriate/removed] simple . You can't contribute on the field? And you showed up late to team meetings? You are "lucky" you weren't cut before.
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