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tannenballs


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject: Top 10 Edge Rushers going into '17 Reply with quote

Who are your top 10 Edge Rushers entering the 2017 season?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 - Khalil Mack
2 - Von Miller
3 - Justin Houston
4 - Cameron Wake
5 - Joey Bosa
6 - Chandler Jones
7 - Jadaveon Clowney
8 - Vic Beasley
9 - Olivier Vernon
10 - Brandon Graham
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BayRaider


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Khalil Mack
2. Von Miller
3. Justin Houston (if healthy and returns to form)
4. Joey Bosa

^ AFC West representing..

5. Vic Beasley
6. Brandon Graham
7. Cameron Wake
8. Michael Bennett
9. Melvin Ingram
10. Cameron Jordan

HM: Jadeveon Clowney
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BroncoBruin


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not considering Watt or Bennett EDGEs.

1. Von Miller
2. Khalil Mack
3. Justin Houston
4. Joey Bosa
5. Cam Wake
6. Jadeveon Clowney
7. Robert Quinn
8. Everton Griffen
9. Chandler Jones
10. Cameron Jordan

HM: Dunlap, Ansah, Avril, JPP, Vernon

Houston, Wake and Quinn the most likely fallers. Vic Beasley likely rises to the top 10 soon. Ridiculously stacked group, lot of very good players not even HMs.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Hunter is better than Griffen at this point.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol at Clowney being top 10
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckIsGOAT wrote:
Lol at Clowney being top 10

Post your own list. Nobody wants to hear jeers from the peanut gallery.
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Zappaz


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well one thing we know, its gonna be a rough year for QBs in the AFCW... The pass rush talent in that division is silly good.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LuckIsGOAT wrote:
Lol at Clowney being top 10


Clowney needs to finish more, but he was definitely a top 10 pass rusher in 2016 if you look beyond the sack stats....which I guarantee, you didnt do.

Not saying he is definitely top 10 right now, but its not laughable either.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SMH at people putting Brandon Graham and Olivier Vernon over Ryan Kerrigan. People fall in love with QB pressure stats as if they are a legit substitute for a sack. Pressures are well and good when added to a high sack production, but I need guys on my team who can actually get to the QB and finish the play consistently, not guys who "almost" finish on a consistent basis - this is especially true when it comes to Graham.

When it comes to Vernon:

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Olivier Vernon deserves ample praise for being one of the more high-motor, well-conditioned edge defenders in the NFL, leading to his league-leading 93.7 snap percentage, which dwarfs the rest of his colleagues. But the reality is that Vernon needs that high snap count to produce, as he remains one of the more inefficient edges in the NFL. Vernon might be the most interesting pass rusher in the league, as his lack of elite athleticism has forced the defensive end to develop other aspects of his game to maximize his potential. A good number of his sacks are always going to come by way of effort and pursuit rather than natural talent, but playing a ton of snaps has helped keep his production relatively consistent in the 6-8 sack range throughout his career.


Really good article btw: http://insidethepylon.com/film-study/film-study-nfl/defense-film-study-nfl/2017/01/09/2016-contextualizing-sack-production-results/
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BayRaider


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Graham is definitely a more complete player than those two though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FourThreeMafia wrote:
LuckIsGOAT wrote:
Lol at Clowney being top 10


Clowney needs to finish more, but he was definitely a top 10 pass rusher in 2016 if you look beyond the sack stats....which I guarantee, you didnt do.

Not saying he is definitely top 10 right now, but its not laughable either.


He was around 50th in sacks and 40th in pressures. If we're just asking about edge rusher's rushing ability I think it would be hard to say Clowney was top 10 and have any way to support that.

He did have a lot of stuffs so if we aren't just talking about getting to the QB then that would really help his case.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is askong Top 10 Edges, the position. Pass rushing, run defense, everything.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteelKing728 wrote:
I think Hunter is better than Griffen at this point.
yeah Hunter needs to be up there
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't JJ Watt primarily an edge rusher?
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