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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheKillerNacho wrote:
patsfan25 wrote:
Is Robinson the biggest bust in history for an OL? His prospect hype was out of this world. There wasn't a more sure thing and people were locking him up a HOF career as a draft prospect....


Mandarich aside, I don't think Robinson is even the biggest draft bust for the Rams in the last decade. Jason Smith, picked also at number 2 overall just five years prior, was even worse.

Moral of the story is to not pick an OT at 2nd overall.. Especially if you're the Rams. Greg Robinson, Luke Joeckel, Jason Smith, Robert Gallery, Tony Mandarich... all overhyped OT prospects picked 2nd overall and marked by pundits as "the safest pick in the draft".


I don't recall Greg Robinson or Jason Smith being considered "safe". If anything, Robinson was more of a risk on upside while Jake Matthews was the "safe" option.

Edit: I'm a bit skeptical that Jason Smith was considered the safest pick in the 2009 draft. I seem the recall Aaron Curry (also a bust) had that title.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crickett wrote:
TheKillerNacho wrote:
patsfan25 wrote:
Is Robinson the biggest bust in history for an OL? His prospect hype was out of this world. There wasn't a more sure thing and people were locking him up a HOF career as a draft prospect....


Mandarich aside, I don't think Robinson is even the biggest draft bust for the Rams in the last decade. Jason Smith, picked also at number 2 overall just five years prior, was even worse.

Moral of the story is to not pick an OT at 2nd overall.. Especially if you're the Rams. Greg Robinson, Luke Joeckel, Jason Smith, Robert Gallery, Tony Mandarich... all overhyped OT prospects picked 2nd overall and marked by pundits as "the safest pick in the draft".


I don't recall Greg Robinson or Jason Smith being considered "safe". If anything, Robinson was more of a risk on upside while Jake Matthews was the "safe" option.

Edit: I'm a bit skeptical that Jason Smith was considered the safest pick in the 2009 draft. I seem the recall Aaron Curry (also a bust) had that title.


Robinson needed coaching so that his mental game could catch up with his physical game. The Rams had Jake Long who was going to man the LT position for a couple years so Robinson had time to acclimate. Problem is two fold. One Fisher was an idiot and instead of just coaching GRob up to be a LG he put him also at LT so already he was taking a guy that needed some coaching and split his time with multiple assignments. GRob not being the brightest guy didn't do well with that. Then the second problem was Long got hurt. And instead of putting another former LT in Saffold out there he put the under coached and not even close to prepared for the job GRob at LT and the guy never had a chance. Fisher liked the physical upside guys but rarely was able to coach them into being a decent player. Unless they were a DB that is.
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Crickett wrote:
TheKillerNacho wrote:
patsfan25 wrote:
Is Robinson the biggest bust in history for an OL? His prospect hype was out of this world. There wasn't a more sure thing and people were locking him up a HOF career as a draft prospect....


Mandarich aside, I don't think Robinson is even the biggest draft bust for the Rams in the last decade. Jason Smith, picked also at number 2 overall just five years prior, was even worse.

Moral of the story is to not pick an OT at 2nd overall.. Especially if you're the Rams. Greg Robinson, Luke Joeckel, Jason Smith, Robert Gallery, Tony Mandarich... all overhyped OT prospects picked 2nd overall and marked by pundits as "the safest pick in the draft".


I don't recall Greg Robinson or Jason Smith being considered "safe". If anything, Robinson was more of a risk on upside while Jake Matthews was the "safe" option.

Edit: I'm a bit skeptical that Jason Smith was considered the safest pick in the 2009 draft. I seem the recall Aaron Curry (also a bust) had that title.




You are correct, Sir!!!

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d80dff358/article/mayocks-top-prospects-at-each-position[/b]

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Aaron Curry Wake Forest Scheme diverse/high-level performer, safest pick in draft
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FourThreeMafia wrote:
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RuskieTitan wrote:
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Why not. I don't see any risk there. Worst case scenario, they're cut 2 months from now and the Lions lose a 6th (big deal!).


Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. So yes, losing a 6th is a big deal.


Just because you CAN find a future HOFer in the 6th doesn't mean you will. In fact, odds are you won't.


Its always comical when people bring up Tom Brady and Antonio Brown when citing why teams shouldnt trade 6th rounders. 75% of 6th rounders are out of the league within 2 years, and another 15% are career backups at best....but because a few good players came from that round here and there, that means its supposedly a huge mistake to pass up on that 1/1000th of a chance.


It's Ruskie. He's trolling.
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Why is it that everyone thinks tackle busts would thrive as guards?
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