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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Browns say hell no to this awful trade.
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You do know that Dallas drafted FOUR DBs in April, right? They used their 2nd, 3rd, and both 6ths. How many damned DBs does a team need?!?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninjapirate wrote:
Good pick for the eagles.
I think so but they've just signed Peters again..I'm doubting now !
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason_Bengal_Fl wrote:
INbengalfan wrote:
I like it for the Bengals. Judging by the draft position, the offensive line must have played well enough, so our every other year CB selection should be in play. We need to upgrade the center position.


I like the center pick, but I'm not sure about 1 yet. If the O-line plays well we don't have many needs so I would go BPA, but it's too early to tell who that would be at this point. But it could be CB. Adam is aging and DQ hasn't shown a whole lot yet.
Exactly my thought : Jones getting old and Dennard, well..
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDOG_det wrote:
I love Guice but I'm not sure if the Lions will be looking at a RB that early. I wouldn't have an issue with the pick though. I haven't watched Campbell but the Lions won't need a WR (they will only need vet minimum/UDFA types to compete in camp). Someone like Maurice Hurst Jr. would be great for the Lions. Haloti Ngata is old and A'Shawn Robinson isn't much of a pass rusher. Someone like Hurst would come in and immediately be one of the best interior pass rushers on the team, which is likely going to be an issue this upcoming season.

QB won't be a position to target for the Lions, Stafford will be back with a new contract or on the franchise tag
RB likely won't be a position to target early, but if Abdullah gets hurt again they might want to go with someone else
WR should only be a late target
TE will only be a target late if they don't bring back Darren Fells
OT could be a late target, but unlikely
OG could a target if Travis Swanson doesn't re-sign and Graham Glasgow switches to center (otherwise it will only be a target for future/depth behind TJ Lang)
C could be a target depending on Travis Swanson's contract and if Glasgow moves to center
DE should be an early target, Ansah will likely be on the franchise tag and Hyder is mostly a pass rush specialist
DT should be an early target for a guy who can help with the pass rush, Ngata will likely retire
LB will be a target at least for depth, they may need someone to compete as a starter if Whitehead and Worrilow don't re-sign
CB could be a middle round target if Nevin Lawson and DJ Hayden walk
S should be a target, Glover Quin will slow down eventually and both he and Tavon Wilson have expiring contract
K could be a target if they don't re-sign Matt Prater (which absolutely should happen)
Thanks for this complete roster evaluation. I think a tank like Guice could be nice in this offense, especially after bringing in Lang and Wagner but a DE like Hubbard would be a nice pick either..
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Raves wrote:
If the Saints are that bad, which I really doubt, then it means Drew Brees is done for and they should just take Lamar Jackson.
I dont think the Saints are that bad but the division is hard ! It could be the year of the Bucs, the Falcons were at the SB and the Panthers a year before so it will be difficult to win lots of games. We'll see..
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MWil23 wrote:
So, the Browns traded Pick 4, Pick 8, and Pick 36 to move up to #1? YIKES. That's basically the opposite of their Moneyball approach and I don't see their FO doing a trade like this, even though they still have a lot of ammunition with the 2 1sts and 3 2nds next year.

If Darnold is the real deal, I wouldn't love the trade but I'd certainly live with it.

JMHO
An Fo can do it one way but it doesn't mean they'll always do that way. Sure we have to wait on Kizer but if they think Darnold is the guy and as they won't have the #1 next year, i think thay can trade some (and still have picks to use).
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INbengalfan wrote:
Jason_Bengal_Fl wrote:
INbengalfan wrote:
I like it for the Bengals. Judging by the draft position, the offensive line must have played well enough, so our every other year CB selection should be in play. We need to upgrade the center position.


I like the center pick, but I'm not sure about 1 yet. If the O-line plays well we don't have many needs so I would go BPA, but it's too early to tell who that would be at this point. But it could be CB. Adam is aging and DQ hasn't shown a whole lot yet.


If the line holds up, I wouldn't be shocked to see the team go TE in the first. I could see them taking an OT even if both Ogbuehi and Fisher ball out, because they will be getting close to free agency. It won't be a WR or a QB. And since Tobin took over, those have been the focus positions of our first round picks.
I dont see a TE worthing a 1st, there is ?
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VikeManDan wrote:
I appreciate the effort this early but double dipping on DL seems unlikely. I think the Vikings, if possible, will look to land an OT of the future. So OT/DL in any order would be better for Vikings roster IMO.
You probably right..
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plan9misfit wrote:
You do know that Dallas drafted FOUR DBs in April, right? They used their 2nd, 3rd, and both 6ths. How many damned DBs does a team need?!?
I still think a SS like Harrison would be a nice pick but okay, not so much about another CB in the 2nd..
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zappa13004 wrote:
MWil23 wrote:
So, the Browns traded Pick 4, Pick 8, and Pick 36 to move up to #1? YIKES. That's basically the opposite of their Moneyball approach and I don't see their FO doing a trade like this, even though they still have a lot of ammunition with the 2 1sts and 3 2nds next year.

If Darnold is the real deal, I wouldn't love the trade but I'd certainly live with it.

JMHO
An Fo can do it one way but it doesn't mean they'll always do that way. Sure we have to wait on Kizer but if they think Darnold is the guy and as they won't have the #1 next year, i think thay can trade some (and still have picks to use).


Even on the trade value chart that price seems excessively steep to move up 3 spots.
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MWil23 wrote:
zappa13004 wrote:
MWil23 wrote:
So, the Browns traded Pick 4, Pick 8, and Pick 36 to move up to #1? YIKES. That's basically the opposite of their Moneyball approach and I don't see their FO doing a trade like this, even though they still have a lot of ammunition with the 2 1sts and 3 2nds next year.

If Darnold is the real deal, I wouldn't love the trade but I'd certainly live with it.

JMHO
An Fo can do it one way but it doesn't mean they'll always do that way. Sure we have to wait on Kizer but if they think Darnold is the guy and as they won't have the #1 next year, i think thay can trade some (and still have picks to use).


Even on the trade value chart that price seems excessively steep to move up 3 spots.
Probably but in a year with valuable QB the chart will serve as a scale not an exact trade form, teams will ask for more If Darnold or Allen or another have a great year. And a team will pay.
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Side note: Thanks for your hard work on this, I know that it's very time consuming and impossible to please everyone.
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MWil23 wrote:
Side note: Thanks for your hard work on this, I know that it's very time consuming and impossible to please everyone.
Thank you
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zappa13004 wrote:
INbengalfan wrote:
Jason_Bengal_Fl wrote:
INbengalfan wrote:
I like it for the Bengals. Judging by the draft position, the offensive line must have played well enough, so our every other year CB selection should be in play. We need to upgrade the center position.


I like the center pick, but I'm not sure about 1 yet. If the O-line plays well we don't have many needs so I would go BPA, but it's too early to tell who that would be at this point. But it could be CB. Adam is aging and DQ hasn't shown a whole lot yet.


If the line holds up, I wouldn't be shocked to see the team go TE in the first. I could see them taking an OT even if both Ogbuehi and Fisher ball out, because they will be getting close to free agency. It won't be a WR or a QB. And since Tobin took over, those have been the focus positions of our first round picks.
I dont see a TE worthing a 1st, there is ?


Not now, but it's very early in the process. Since 2009, we have taken, in the first round, two TEs (Eiffert, Gresham), two WRs (Green and Ross), three CBs (Kirkpatrick, Dennard, Jackson) and two OL (Ogbuehi and Zeitler). While that doesn't preclude them from going in a different direction, it is a pattern. Couple that with the fact usually has drafted in the 21-24 range, and the pattern continues. They've had only two top 10 choices in that time, and both were spent on WRs. We've drafted 4 WRs in the last two drafts, plus added an UDFA in Erickson, so WR is out. Personally I would go o-line if I had to guess right now, but in this scenario, drafting in this spot, I assume the line did well enough to wait until day 2. Mike Brown loves Adam Jones, so if he plays well this year (he played better the second half last year, as did the defense as a whole, once the defensive coaching changes new schemes took hold (they literally had new coaches at every defensive position coach spot under Guenther). So in that case, if Jones stays, we would have the rest of the guys signed anyway into the following season (Kirkpatrick, Dennard, Jackson, Shaw, Russell). That leaves TE. Granted, Eifert is a stud when healthy. He will be a free agent, but in the end, I think the team re-signs him. But Kroft and Uzomah have been underwhelming in the spots behind him. So I think that position is in play at this point.
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