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Dolmonite26


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SemperFeist wrote:
Reiff's natural position is the left side. 2016 was the only year of his football career that's he hasn't played on the left side, and PFF's grading system had his grade at RT considerably lower than any year at left tackle.


Glad someone said it, was thinking about it and then saw this.
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Dolmonite26 wrote:
SemperFeist wrote:
Reiff's natural position is the left side. 2016 was the only year of his football career that's he hasn't played on the left side, and PFF's grading system had his grade at RT considerably lower than any year at left tackle.

Glad someone said it, was thinking about it and then saw this.


**After redshirting his initial year at Iowa, Reiff started 11 of 13 games on the Hawkeyes' offensive line—three at left tackle, seven at left guard and final game at right tackle.

** Reiff started all 13 games at left tackle in his junior season as well. Reiff announced his decision to forgo his final year of eligibility at Iowa, entering the 2012 NFL Draft.

** 2012 - Reiff had one start at the left tackle position coming in the teams Thanksgiving Day matchup against the Houston Texans. In Week 14, he rotated in the offensive line as usual and also returned a short kickoff for 10 yards. Despite his limited role in the 2012 season, Reiff was rated as the Lions top run blocker by Pro Football Focus (PFF).

** 2013 - After veteran Lions tackle Jeff Backus retired before the start of the 2013 season, Reiff took over his position at left tackle.

** 2014, 2015 - Reiff started his mainstay at left tackle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riley_Reiff[/quote]
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Mike Remmers: “This time of year is absolutely critical. You’re getting little things down, communication, technique, footwork and everything. This time is critical so when we go into August we’re all in a groove together and continue to grow from there.”

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Notebook-Healthy-Laquon-Treadwell-Practicing-with-A-Mental-Freedom/65b30ef0-76a4-43fe-bfb8-82f06a5092fa
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A move that has been discussed is officially official.

http://min.247sports.com/Bolt/TJ-Clemmings-moving-to-guard-for-2017-season-53167211?utm_source=247Sports%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=170614_091602_Minnesota%20Vikings%20Newsletter&utm_content=Link&liveconnect=0E-F0-12-6E-28-0F-E1-14-63-ED-00-A1-CD-DF-93-53170614_091602MinnesotaVikingsNewsletter
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think several of us have said that he needs to be stuck at one position for some time to be successful. He's been yanked from side to side, inside to outside too many times already that he just hasn't had the opportunity to develop at any one of them.

If they can keep him at RG, then maybe eventually he can develop to be that swing O-Linemen on the right side that we think he can be.
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disaacs wrote:
If they can keep him at RG, then maybe eventually he can develop to be that swing O-Linemen on the right side that we think he can be.

"We"? You and the mouse in your pocket?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

disaacs wrote:
I think several of us have said that he needs to be stuck at one position for some time to be successful. He's been yanked from side to side, inside to outside too many times already that he just hasn't had the opportunity to develop at any one of them.

If they can keep him at RG, then maybe eventually he can develop to be that swing O-Linemen on the right side that we think he can be.


He's been at tackle for pretty much his entire career. He was tried at G early on but was moved back almost immediately.

Part of being a backup OL is having flexibility to play both sides. If Clemmings isn't s good starter and is unable to adapt to playing different sides, he won't last long in the NFL.
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Colorado Vike wrote:
disaacs wrote:
If they can keep him at RG, then maybe eventually he can develop to be that swing O-Linemen on the right side that we think he can be.

"We"? You and the mouse in your pocket?


I think allowing him to focus on RG, and probably the right side will help him. He's young, cheap and has the physical tools to do well.
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disaacs wrote:
If they can keep him at RG, then maybe eventually he can develop to be that swing O-Linemen on the right side that we think he can be.

"We"? You and the mouse in your pocket?


Yes.

And no, VR, being a backup OL does not require the ability to play both sides of the line. All it requires is the ability to play multiple positions...even if that is just one side of the line. And I believe that if Clemmings can stick to one side of the ball, he'd be a decent backup G/T.
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disaacs wrote:
Colorado Vike wrote:
disaacs wrote:
If they can keep him at RG, then maybe eventually he can develop to be that swing O-Linemen on the right side that we think he can be.

"We"? You and the mouse in your pocket?


Yes.

And no, VR, being a backup OL does not require the ability to play both sides of the line. All it requires is the ability to play multiple positions...even if that is just one side of the line. And I believe that if Clemmings can stick to one side of the ball, he'd be a decent backup G/T.


Maybe but hasn't he been better on the left side than the right side? I have serious doubts that Clemmings even makes the team if the Vikes carry 9 OL.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually believe he was light-years better playing RT in 2015 than he was playing LT last year.
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vikingsrule wrote:
He's been at tackle for pretty much his entire career. He was tried at G early on but was moved back almost immediately.

One day of OTAs, with a different line coach. Now, it's been a number of days of OTAs, different coaches. And they have plenty of tape by now telling them how well he works at OT.

Many linemen play tackle from high school through four years of college and are immediately moved to guard in the NFL. Others, like Clemmings, are given a chance at OT first. With Clemmings and the Vikings, I don't think it was even a matter of wanting to give him a chance, as much as having no other choice.

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Part of being a backup OL is having flexibility to play both sides. If Clemmings isn't s good starter and is unable to adapt to playing different sides, he won't last long in the NFL.

Some guys can do it, some can't. Some are better off sticking to one side and can play either G or T. As for how long he'll last in the NFL, I suspect that if the Vikings give up on him, some other team will see the same basic athletic ability, and try to develop him further. He could be around for a few more years.
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VikeManDan wrote:
A move that has been discussed is officially official.

http://min.247sports.com/Bolt/TJ-Clemmings-moving-to-guard-for-2017-season-53167211?utm_source=247Sports%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=170614_091602_Minnesota%20Vikings%20Newsletter&utm_content=Link&liveconnect=0E-F0-12-6E-28-0F-E1-14-63-ED-00-A1-CD-DF-93-53170614_091602MinnesotaVikingsNewsletter


Pro tip: Anything in a URL that comes after a question mark is usually unnecessary.

http://min.247sports.com/Bolt/TJ-Clemmings-moving-to-guard-for-2017-season-53167211

That just cut the link down from 315 characters to 83 characters.
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T.J. Clemmings, who has played guard much of the spring after being a tackle his first two years, missed practice Wednesday with an undisclosed injury. He was replaced as the second-team guard by rookie Danny Isidora.

http://www.twincities.com/2017/06/14/inspired-vikings-de-everson-griffen-says-new-goal-has-a-nice-ring-to-it/
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Klomp wrote:
VikeManDan wrote:
A move that has been discussed is officially official.

http://min.247sports.com/Bolt/TJ-Clemmings-moving-to-guard-for-2017-season-53167211?utm_source=247Sports%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=170614_091602_Minnesota%20Vikings%20Newsletter&utm_content=Link&liveconnect=0E-F0-12-6E-28-0F-E1-14-63-ED-00-A1-CD-DF-93-53170614_091602MinnesotaVikingsNewsletter


Pro tip: Anything in a URL that comes after a question mark is usually unnecessary.

http://min.247sports.com/Bolt/TJ-Clemmings-moving-to-guard-for-2017-season-53167211

That just cut the link down from 315 characters to 83 characters.


Thanks! I was wondering why it was so long, I'll remember that going forward.
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