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bearsfan323


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:44 pm    Post subject: Bears sign Victor Cruz Reply with quote

White
Cruz
Wheaton
Bellamy
Meredith
Wright
Braverman
Gentry
Thompson

I think the bottom 3 are gone

(Also, Victor Cruz sucks)
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WindyCity


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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not hate the signing, but I almost hope he does not make the team.

My hope is that one of the younger WRs with a bit of a future can step up and make needing a steady declining vet not as serious.

But I understand wanting a guy with a resume.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the hell are we doing
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G08 wrote:
What the hell are we doing


Adding options.

Let them sort themselves out in camp.

The WR core is super light on experience and production and he has done both.

They could also be preparing for the fact that Kevin White is going to get injured at some point.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WindyCity wrote:
G08 wrote:
What the hell are we doing


Adding options.

Let them sort themselves out in camp.

The WR core is super light on experience and production and he has done both.

They could also be preparing for the fact that Kevin White is going to get injured at some point.


Or is he already injured?

I'm a Braverman guy, I want that kid getting as many reps as possible.
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My point is you can find a franchise guy like [Derek] Carr in every draft


"I thought it was a stroke of genius. You give [Pace] an A++++ for the move to get Trubisky. That was magnificient." - Bill Polian
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He should be a fan favorite. Football fans love washed-up stars.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G08 wrote:
WindyCity wrote:
They could also be preparing for the fact that Kevin White is going to get injured at some point.


Or is he already injured?

I'm a Braverman guy, I want that kid getting as many reps as possible.

He just might be. Fox's statement on his lack of participation was...cryptic, at best.
I think this Cruz signing probably means that they're having to face the reality that they may have to cut White...
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G08 wrote:
WindyCity wrote:
G08 wrote:
What the hell are we doing


Adding options.

Let them sort themselves out in camp.

The WR core is super light on experience and production and he has done both.

They could also be preparing for the fact that Kevin White is going to get injured at some point.


Or is he already injured?

I'm a Braverman guy, I want that kid getting as many reps as possible.


Braverman can still earn a job, same with Gentry.

But the Bears may end up just needing a veteran who is not going to get bullied or screw up every other play.

Might as well add him and then cut him if the young guys step up.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WindyCity wrote:
G08 wrote:
WindyCity wrote:
G08 wrote:
What the hell are we doing


Adding options.

Let them sort themselves out in camp.

The WR core is super light on experience and production and he has done both.

They could also be preparing for the fact that Kevin White is going to get injured at some point.


Or is he already injured?

I'm a Braverman guy, I want that kid getting as many reps as possible.


Braverman can still earn a job, same with Gentry.

But the Bears may end up just needing a veteran who is not going to get bullied or screw up every other play.

Might as well add him and then cut him if the young guys step up.


I have a feeling those two are ticketed for the practice squad.

I think Wheaton and Wright are battling for future contracts, my money says it will be Wright in 2018 and beyond.

I think Meredith becomes our #1 and Kevin White becomes a bubble/tunnel screen and one-trick-pony deep shot (think Darrius Heyward-Bey).
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha I was going to post a few weeks ago a thread asking if people would be interested in signing him but figured I'd be met with resistance because our team is full of #2's and Cruz is older
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Bears sign Victor Cruz Reply with quote

bearsfan323 wrote:
White
Cruz
Wheaton
Bellamy
Meredith
Wright
Braverman
Gentry
Thompson

I think the bottom 3 are gone

(Also, Victor Cruz sucks)


I'd keep gentry and braverman over bellamy, even if they are unproven
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Bears sign Victor Cruz Reply with quote

Tyty wrote:
I'd keep gentry and braverman over bellamy, even if they are unproven

Yeah, more potential there.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope Cruz teaches these young guys a lot in camp...and is then cut...

We are a team who should be building for 2018...Cruz doesn't help with that.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if there's anywhere they mishandled a position it's at WR. It's not really there but it kind of resembles Jerry Angelo's method of filling the WR position. Very skeptical of who's going to actually produce.
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GOGRIESE wrote:
I think if there's anywhere they mishandled a position it's at WR. It's not really there but it kind of resembles Jerry Angelo's method of filling the WR position. Very skeptical of who's going to actually produce.

A major trait of a great QB is the ability to work through progression. Guys like Brees, Brady, and Rodgers compensate for having a random, average group of WRs because they'll work through their progression and take what they're given. We've seen a lot of their receivers go to teams with lesser QBs and immediately become irrelevant.

Pace is banking on the ability of his QBs to work through their progression. We will have to see how that plays out.

I get the concern though. A good QB can make average receivers look good, and a good WR can make an average QB look good. Angelo's teams had worthless receivers and mediocre QBs.

If Trubisky is special and the receivers are average, I'll be very happy.
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