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Nova


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I get older, I have less time to actually watch film, which means my rankings for CBS probably isn't accurate... But here goes:

1. Chris Harris Jr
2. Patrick Peterson
3. Aquib Talib
4. Janoris Jenkins
5. Josh Norman
6. Richard Sherman
7. Xavier Rhodes
8. Marcus Peters
9. Jimmy Smith
10. Darius Slay

Hm: DRC, Ramsey, Verrett, Hayward


A lot of these guys are asked to do different things, so it's hard. But I'm most impressed with 1-2
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not disputing anyone's rankings at all, but it's amazing to me to see the other names on these top 10 lists and see the level of talent Norman had to play with on defense last season vs. the level of talent these other guys get to play with.

Pretty much every other player named in these top 10 lists play on a defense that is top 15, with plenty of other talent around them. Norman had Kerrigan and not much else last year on a bottom ranked defense. He had terrible safety play, inconsistent CB play, outside of himself, and don't even get me started on the ILB and DL positions. The Redskins could see up to 7 new starters on defense this season. For anyone doubting if being on Carolina was the only reason for his success, he put those doubts to rest last year. He had better stats playing with the Panthers, of course, but given what he had to work with last year, I think this past season was actually his most impressive.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JBURGE25 wrote:
tom cody wrote:
Top 5:

1) Peterson
2) Talib
3) Sherman
4) Norman
5) Harris
6) Peters
7) Rhodes
8 ) Jenkins
9) Slay
10) Ramsey


I may switch a few players around but this would be my top 10. Good list


But this is a top 5 list.....? Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Aqib
2. Patty-P
3. Harris Jr.
4. Slay
5. Peters
6. Rhodes
7. Sherman
8. Jenkins
9. Hayward
10. Norman
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 - Chris Harris Jr.
2 - Richard Sherman
3 - Aqib Talib
4 - Patrick Peterson
5 - Marcus Peters
6 - Janoris Jenkins
7 - Jimmy Smith
8 - Josh Norman
9 - Xavier Rhodes
10 - Malcolm Butler
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Chris Harris
2. Patrick Peterson
3. Xavier Rhodes
4. Malcolm Butler
5. Jalen Ramsey
6. Aqib Talib
7. Richard Sherman
8. Jackrabbit Jenkins
9. Marcus Peters
10. AJ Bouye
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really have a full list of guys, but I'd put Marcus Peters #1.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

l3lind golfer wrote:
I don't really have a full list of guys, but I'd put Marcus Peters #1.


I'll take Harris, Rhodes, and Peterson over him. Kid still gives up too many yards.
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FalconFan13


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Desmond Trufant retire or die or something? He's on almost no ones top 10 and not even in some peoples honorable mentions. The guy is pretty much a shut down corner on a avg at best defense. I mean 1 year of Jalen Ramsey puts him in the top 10 over Trufant? I know Tru is coming off a bit of an injury but he's not gonna be that bad off lol.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Ramsey is better than Trufant. Trufant is a good player, just not a top 10 CB. Pretty simple
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RavensDefense3 wrote:
Jakuvious wrote:
RavensDefense3 wrote:
ComebackKid wrote:
1. Patrick Peterson
2. Aqib Talib
3. Richard Sherman
4. Chris Harris Jr.
5. Jimmy Smith (Hate to say it, really good when healthy.)
6. Marcus Peters
7. Xavier Rhodes
8. Janoris Jenkins
9. Jalen Ramsey
10. Josh Norman


He didn't have one bad game last season, 1 td allowed, and no deep balls allowed. Jimmy and Xavier Rhodes are really underrated around here for some reason.


He had an underwhelming 2015, one of his only full seasons, and in the seasons surrounding that in 2014 and 2016, while he did play well, he did not play so well as to standout in comparison to players playing well a full 16 games.

Xavier Rhodes is mostly recognized here, though he is definitely underrated more widely.
he was lockdown in 2014 and last season. In 2014 our defense sucked so he went unrecognized. This season we were ranked 1 and 2 weekly on defense until he went down, our defense noticed a significant difference. Even in 2015 during his "bad" year he was returning from a ankle injury and he played at a high level the 2nd half of that year. We've also historically been great at containing antonio brown and huge part of that is jimmy(antonio has like 2 tds in the last 12 or so games vs ravens) You saw what happened the last time we played antonio brown he went off. Coincidentally jimmy didnt play that game.


Don't forget the Odell Beckham catastrophe last year once Jimmy went down.? Or the New England game smh... Totally different after Jimmy went down
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TENINCH wrote:
l3lind golfer wrote:
I don't really have a full list of guys, but I'd put Marcus Peters #1.


I'll take Harris, Rhodes, and Peterson over him. Kid still gives up too many yards.
they don't make anywhere near the same plays though.

Well Peterson is kinda close.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chiefer wrote:
TENINCH wrote:
l3lind golfer wrote:
I don't really have a full list of guys, but I'd put Marcus Peters #1.


I'll take Harris, Rhodes, and Peterson over him. Kid still gives up too many yards.
they don't make anywhere near the same plays though.

Well Peterson is kinda close.


Peters is like prime Asante Samuel in the fact that he goes for the killshot far too often and gets housed on double moves and in susceptible to giving up big plays.

When Peters learns to be a shutdown corner and to stay at home with his man rather than gamble on undercutting he will be in the top 5.

This is like Talib early in his career as well. He then figured out to stay attached to him man instead of trying to jump everything and he has been a top 5 DB since leaving the Bucs
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PFF in 2015 just ruined everyone's opinions of Marcus Peters for years.

He did not have a problem getting beat last year. Or the second half of his rookie year. That was like a 9 game long problem while he started his career. He was targeted 64 times less last year, than the year prior, and still maintained PD and INT numbers near the league best. He continued making plays without having to be over-aggressive to do so.

The Asante Samuel comparison also doesn't hold weight because Peters is a much more complete player. He's a much better tackler and run defender than Samuel was.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit surprised to see Janoris Jenkins so low on some lists (and not even on some others). There are a lot of talented corners out there but he seems to be the best at shutting down or at least limiting elite WRs in one-on-one coverage...
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