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onejayhawk


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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject: Best draft of the 1st Decade Reply with quote

This is 2000-2009. Which team's draft ranks supreme?

Some candidates:

2000 - CHICAGO BEARS

1 9 Brian Urlacher MLB New Mexico
2 39 Mike Brown FS Nebraska
3 69 Dez White WR Georgia Tech
3 87 Dustin Lyman TE Wake Forest
4 125 Reggie Austin DB Wake Forest
6 170 Frank Murphy RB Kansas State
6 174 Paul Edinger K Michigan State
7 223 James Cotton DE Ohio State
7 254 Michael Green SAF Northwestern State-Louisiana

2008 - KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

1 5 Glenn Dorsey DT Louisiana State
1 15 Branden Albert T Virginia
2 35 Brandon Flowers CB Virginia Tech
3 73 Jamaal Charles RB Texas
3 76 Brad Cottam TE Tennessee
3 82 DaJuan Morgan SAF North Carolina State
4 105 Will Franklin WR Missouri
5 140 Brandon Carr CB Grand Valley State
6 170 Barry Richardson T Clemson
6 182 Kevin Robinson WR Utah State
7 210 Brian Johnston DE Gardner-Webb
7 239 Mike Merritt TE Central Florida

2005 - DALLAS COWBOYS

1 11 DeMarcus Ware OLB Troy State
1 20 Marcus Spears DE Louisiana State
2 42 Kevin Burnett LB Tennessee
4 109 Marion Barber RB Minnesota
4 132 Chris Canty DE Virginia
6 208 Justin Beriault DB Ball State
6 209 Rob Petitti T Pittsburgh
7 224 Jay Ratliff DE Auburn

2004 - ARIZONA CARDINALS

1 3 Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
2 33 Karlos Dansby OLB Auburn
3 64 Darnell Dockett DT Florida State
4 100 Alex Stepanovich C Ohio State
5 135 Antonio Smith DE Oklahoma State
6 167 Nick Leckey C Kansas State
7 202 John Navarre QB Michigan

2006 - DENVER BRONCOS

1 11 Jay Cutler QB Vanderbilt
2 61 Tony Scheffler TE Western Michigan
4 119 Brandon Marshall WR Central Florida
4 126 Elvis Dumervil DE Louisville
4 130 Domenik Hixon WR Akron
5 161 Chris Kuper G North Dakota
6 198 Greg Eslinger C Minnesota

2004 - SAN DIEGO CHARGERS

1 1 Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2 35 Igor Olshansky DE Oregon
3 65 Nate Kaeding K Iowa
3 66 Nick Hardwick C Purdue
4 98 Shaun Phillips LB Purdue
5 133 Dave Ball DE UCLA
5 154 Michael Turner RB Northern Illinois
6 169 Ryan Krause TE Nebraska-Omaha
7 204 Ryon Bingham DT Nebraska
7 209 Shane Olivea T Ohio State
7 254 Carlos Joseph -- Miami (Fla.)

2005 - SAN DIEGO CHARGERS

1 12 Shawne Merriman OLB Maryland
1 28 Luis Castillo DE Northwestern
2 61 Vincent Jackson WR Northern Colorado
4 130 Darren Sproles RB Kansas State
5 164 Wesley Britt T Alabama
6 177 Wes Sims G Oklahoma
7 242 Scott Mruczkowski C Bowling Green State

I am sure there are others.

The 2004 SD draft involves trading Eli Manning for Philip Rivers, the Kaeding pick and a future pick that became Shawne Merriman.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll take the 2006 Saints draft just about all of their picks were impact players in that draft
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Best draft of the 1st Decade Reply with quote

onejayhawk wrote:
The 2004 SD draft involves trading Eli Manning for Philip Rivers, the Kaeding pick and a future pick that became Shawne Merriman.

J


IIRC, it also involved trading a late round pick for Roman Oben who became their starting left tackle for two years until they drafted Marcus McNeil.

As for unmentioned ones that come to mind:

2003 - New England Patriots
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 13 Ty Warren DE Texas A&M
2 36 Eugene Wilson FS Illinois
2 45 Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M
4 117 Dan Klecko DT Temple
4 120 Asante Samuel CB Central Florida
5 164 Dan Koppen C Boston College
6 201 Kliff Kingsbury QB Texas Tech
7 234 Spencer Nead TE Brigham Young
7 239 Tully Banta-Cain LB California
7 243 Ethan Kelley NT Baylor

This 2003 NE draft involves a whole host of trades that ended up yielding 2004 1st round pick Vince Wilfork.

2006 - Houston Texans
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 1 Mario Williams DE North Carolina State
2 33 DeMeco Ryans MLB Alabama
3 65 Charles Spencer T Pittsburgh
3 66 Eric Winston T Miami (Fla.)
4 98 Owen Daniels TE Wisconsin
6 170 Wali Lundy RB Virginia
7 251 David Anderson WR Colorado State


2001 - Cincinnati Bengals
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 4 Justin Smith DE Missouri
2 36 Chad Johnson WR Oregon State
3 66 Sean Brewer TE San Jose State
4 100 Rudi Johnson RB Auburn
5 135 Victor Leyva G Arizona State
6 168 Riall Johnson LB Stanford
7 204 T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR Oregon State
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tyler735 wrote:
I'll take the 2006 Saints draft just about all of their picks were impact players in that draft


I was going to add that one in as well, then got busy at work. But yeah, that was a crazy good draft for them
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2006 - NEW ORLEANS SAINTS

1 2 Reggie Bush RB USC
2 43 Roman Harper SS Alabama
4 108 Jahri Evans G Bloomsburg
5 135 Rob Ninkovich DE Purdue
6 171 Mike Hass WR Oregon State
6 174 Josh Lay CB Pittsburgh
7 210 Zach Strief T Northwestern
7 252 Marques Colston WR Hofstra

I was not as impressed with this one as some others because they blew the first pick. Still, there are a lot of games played on this list. In retrospect, the top of that draft was very weak. The next impact player was at #11 Haloti Ngata.

@Crickett
You are correct. They also got the pick for Oben.

I could also throw out San Diego's 2001 draft where they took LT and Breese, except they gave up on Breese.

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2008 - KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

1 5 Glenn Dorsey DT Louisiana State
1 15 Branden Albert T Virginia
2 35 Brandon Flowers CB Virginia Tech
3 73 Jamaal Charles RB Texas
5 140 Brandon Carr CB Grand Valley State

I'll throw a vote here. 5 guys that are still in the league, 4 of which played at at least a pro bowl level for multiple years(Dorsey being the outlier). Although even he had a couple of very solid years for SF. And all 5 are at least contributing on a team 9 years later. I think it at least deserves being mentioned.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

onejayhawk wrote:
2006 - NEW ORLEANS SAINTS

1 2 Reggie Bush RB USC
2 43 Roman Harper SS Alabama
4 108 Jahri Evans G Bloomsburg
5 135 Rob Ninkovich DE Purdue
6 171 Mike Hass WR Oregon State
6 174 Josh Lay CB Pittsburgh
7 210 Zach Strief T Northwestern
7 252 Marques Colston WR Hofstra

I was not as impressed with this one as some others because they blew the first pick. Still, there are a lot of games played on this list. In retrospect, the top of that draft was very weak. The next impact player was at #11 Haloti Ngata.

@Crickett
You are correct. They also got the pick for Oben.

I could also throw out San Diego's 2001 draft where they took LT and Breese, except they gave up on Breese.

J


1. Reggie Bush- RB: Sure he didn't live up to his draft hype, but he still had a good career and played a big role in the Saints getting their first Super Bowl victory. His play in the playoffs throughout his career was actually very good (6 touchdowns in 7 games), and he did account for over 60 touchdowns throughout his career, and over 9,000 yards rushing/receiving.

2. Roman Harper- Safety: 2x Pro Bowler. Over 800 career tackles.

4. Jahri Evans- Guard: 6x Pro Bowler, 4x 1st Team All Pro, 1x 2nd Team All Pro. Enough Said.

5. Rob Ninkovich DE: Has over 50 career sacks, and is a 2x Super Bowl Champ. Unfortunately he suffered injuries early in his career with the Saints, and eventually became a good defensive player for the Patriots.

6. Mike Hass WR: Bust

6. Josh Lay CB: Bust

7. Zach Strief Tackle: Has spent 11 years with the Saints. 1x Pro Bowler, 1x 1st Team All Pro. Not a bad 7th Round Pick, but might not even be their best pick in the 7th round during this draft.

7. Marques Colston WR: Was very underrated for much of his career, and never made a Pro Bowl or All Pro team, but he holds just about every Saints receiving record, and finished his career with 10,547 receiving yards, and 76 touchdowns. Currently ranks 44th All Time in Receptions, 49th All Time in Receiving yards, and 36th All Time in Receiving Touchdowns.

I hate when people say the Saints blew it with the pick of Bush. Without him the Saints don't get to the NFC Championship game twice, and win a Super Bowl. As mentioned above he accounted for over 60 touchdowns in his career, and for the Saints it went beyond stats with him. Just having him on the field opened things up elsewhere as he was a weapon that had to always be accounted for.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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2001 CAROLINA PANTHERS:
1. Dan Morgan, LB, Miami
2. Kris Jenkins, DL, Maryland
3. Steve Smith, WR, Utah
4. Chris Weinke, QB, Florida St.
5. Jarrod Cooper, S, Kansas St.
6. Dee Brown, HB, Syracuse
7. Louis Williams, OL, Louisiana St.
7. Mike Roberg, TE, Idaho

Obviously the 4th-7th rounds were rough, but those top 3 were fantastic, and would have been far better if Morgan didn't suffer so badly with concussions.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tyler735 wrote:
I hate when people say the Saints blew it with the pick of Bush. Without him the Saints don't get to the NFC Championship game twice, and win a Super Bowl. As mentioned above he accounted for over 60 touchdowns in his career, and for the Saints it went beyond stats with him. Just having him on the field opened things up elsewhere as he was a weapon that had to always be accounted for.

All valid points, but at this level missing slightly at the top, particularly top 5 picks, can sink the whole draft rating. It's the same with 2008 Chiefs. Bush and Dorsey were very good, but not great.

My pick for the decade is Cowboys in 2005. Ware may make the HoF. Barber and Ratliff were also Pro Bowl. Spears, Burnett an Canty were longtime starters. 2nd place is the Chargers in 2004.

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Dude, Ware is a guaranteed lock for the HOF. The only question is whether he goes year one or has to wait a couple of years at most.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 2005 Cowboys draft.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ragnarok wrote:
Dude, Ware is a guaranteed lock for the HOF. The only question is whether he goes year one or has to wait a couple of years at most.

Until he gets voted, he's still a maybe. I only bend that for players like P Manning and that late round guy in New England.

I have more closely considered the 2006 NO draft. It is as worthy as the Dallas draft. I knew that Strief and Colston were good players but I did not put them on a level with Bush and Harper. If anything, they were better.

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2006 Jets is pretty good.

1(4). D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
1(29). Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State
2(49). Kellen Clemens, QB, Oregon
3(76). Anthony Schlegel, OLB, Ohio State
3(97). Eric Smith, S, Michigan State
4(103). Brad Smith, WR, Missouri
4(117). Leon Washington, RB, Florida State
5(150). Jason Pociask, TE, Wisconsin
6(189). Drew Coleman, CB, Texas Christian
7(220). Titus Adams, DT, Nebraska

2007 too despite being a small class.

1(14). Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
2(47). David Harris, ILB, Michigan
6(177). Jacob Bender, OT, Nicholls State
7(235). Chansi Stuckey, WR, Clemson
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the 2000 Jet draft has to be considered.

1-12 Shawn Elllis
1-13 John Abraham
1-18 Chad Pennington
1-27 Anthony Becht
3-78 Laveranous Coles
5-143 Windrell Hayes
6-179 Tony Scott
7-218 Richard Seals
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2013 Browns


#6--Barkevious Mingo DE
3rd--Leon McFadden CB
6th--Jamoris Slaughter SS
7th--Armonty Bryant DE
7th--Garrett Gilkey OG

not a lot of picks, but they hit on every single one.
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