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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Couple thoughts

That Swiss cat Oezdmier (sp) has some concrete in his hands. F Manuawa...he is a punk anyways

I was hoping they would give the decision to Cowboy, but I think after 1-1, Robbie wanted it a little more in the third.


No one is beating Cyborg for awhile.....or ever


Woodley is the most boring champ out there right now, and I can't wait till he loses.


Props to Bones the GOAT....even though I can't stand him. Can Brock just get really lucky and take him down and pound his face into hamburger???? I doubt it...but would be awesome.


No chance Brock is quick enough or in good enough shape to beat Jones...trying to close the distance or take down Jones will have him gassed in round 1 lol. Not to mention his awkward as hell stand up game
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Wow Dana officially yanked the fight away from Woodley and gave it to Bisping? That's pretty crazy and might be the most entertainment > sport move the UFC has done so far.
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I get the criticism of Woodley for not using the last 90 secs to try and get a finish and it's warranted. But overall that was an absolute clinic on how to fight a high level grappler. 0/21 takedown defense.. how do the fans not appreciate that sort of domination? One mistake and Maia is Champion. Is Woodley supposed to play into Maia's strength just for the entertainment of the fans? Guy fought two high level specialists his last 3 fights and is still champ by completely nullifying those strengths...oh and beat Lawler at his own game as well..If you can't appreciate that then I dunno...

Woodley didn't even want the Maia fight because of this reason. He knew it would be a borefest. He wants to fight freestyle fighters so he can use all his tools. Woodley/Lawler 2 should be epic and I think that's the fight that has to happen next in WW.


I agree with this 100%. He is a wrestler but never ever should shoot on Maia. He defended the TD masterfully. Yea he wasn't that active on the feet and probably should have been more aggressive but it would be playing into Maia's hand. Hopefully Lawler gets a title shot soon. He won't let a boring fight happen
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mossburg wrote:
Wow Dana officially yanked the fight away from Woodley and gave it to Bisping? That's pretty crazy and might be the most entertainment > sport move the UFC has done so far.


Huh? The GSP fight? What happened?

My bad, just saw that Dana said the T-Wood fight pushed him to want GSP fight Bisping
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Mossburg wrote:
Wow Dana officially yanked the fight away from Woodley and gave it to Bisping? That's pretty crazy and might be the most entertainment > sport move the UFC has done so far.
Helwani implied that it was Bisping or nothing for GSP the whole time. Which I believe. And Woodley has been saying it for a while he didn't think that GSP would fight him because he wasn't a big enough draw, not whining just saying that how it is.
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Shockey1979 wrote:
I get the criticism of Woodley for not using the last 90 secs to try and get a finish and it's warranted. But overall that was an absolute clinic on how to fight a high level grappler. 0/21 takedown defense.. how do the fans not appreciate that sort of domination? One mistake and Maia is Champion. Is Woodley supposed to play into Maia's strength just for the entertainment of the fans? Guy fought two high level specialists his last 3 fights and is still champ by completely nullifying those strengths...oh and beat Lawler at his own game as well..If you can't appreciate that then I dunno...

Woodley didn't even want the Maia fight because of this reason. He knew it would be a borefest. He wants to fight freestyle fighters so he can use all his tools. Woodley/Lawler 2 should be epic and I think that's the fight that has to happen next in WW.


He stopped the takedowns because Maia was blind.. Woodley knew he had the fight won in Round 1 and took the easy coasting route because of Maias eyes. Could of finished anytime he wanted to. And this guy wants to be rewarded with big draws.. not happening.
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Mossburg wrote:
Wow Dana officially yanked the fight away from Woodley and gave it to Bisping? That's pretty crazy and might be the most entertainment > sport move the UFC has done so far.


I find it really interesting how Bisping and Woodley are holding the belts, but GSP is essentially the title shot here. Dana comes out and said Woodley has lost the shot, as if him and Bisping were actually just #1 and #2 contenders. Interesting statement on how marquee fights are a bigger deal than belts right now in the UFC.
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on Woodley, it seems to me he's trying to be like the Mayweather of MMA right now. In one sense, his fight against Maia was very Mayweather-esque; didn't land a lot, but it was impressive in the way he completely neutralized a guy who had torn through everyone else in the division. As dull as the fight was, I kinda have to agree with Shockey in that his defense was really impressive.

the main thing I see comparing Wood and Floyd is that he's just trying to be about winning, nothing else. when you're champion, you can kind of afford to do that. as long as you keep winning, you'll still be champ, your fights will still be a big deal. Just like Mayweather, his fights aren't necessarily exciting, but people tune in kind of just to see if he'll lose. as long as T-Wood keeps winning, people will keep watching.
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Buckrock101 wrote:
on Woodley, it seems to me he's trying to be like the Mayweather of MMA right now. In one sense, his fight against Maia was very Mayweather-esque; didn't land a lot, but it was impressive in the way he completely neutralized a guy who had torn through everyone else in the division. As dull as the fight was, I kinda have to agree with Shockey in that his defense was really impressive.

the main thing I see comparing Wood and Floyd is that he's just trying to be about winning, nothing else. when you're champion, you can kind of afford to do that. as long as you keep winning, you'll still be champ, your fights will still be a big deal. Just like Mayweather, his fights aren't necessarily exciting, but people tune in kind of just to see if he'll lose. as long as T-Wood keeps winning, people will keep watching.


I am going to counter this with boxing and MMA are too different sports and the paydays are not obtained in the same way. Floyd gets the payday because of marketing in this way. It also appeals to old school boxing fans to watch the science performed in the way floyd does.

MMA big payout fighters are those that have excitement. Conner, Rhonda, Brock, Jones, and even throughout the history of the sport are people who if they win by finish or in exciting fashion they get paid. The fan base of mma is more into that and will pay for that. Even the popularity of fighters change with their fight styles such as GSP.... a killer early on that had less finishes on the 2nd part of his career.

Basically woodley wants to get paid in mma, but the history of the sport says fans dont want to pay for take down defense, they want to pay for knock outs.
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Woodley got paid $540,000 from the UFC/Reebok on Saturday, more than anyone besides DC. And he should get PPV points once those numbers come out.
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11sanchez11 wrote:
Woodley got paid $540,000 from the UFC/Reebok on Saturday, more than anyone besides DC. And he should get PPV points once those numbers come out.



It's been reported that D.C. Made 1 million and change..
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BigSnack wrote:
Buckrock101 wrote:
on Woodley, it seems to me he's trying to be like the Mayweather of MMA right now. In one sense, his fight against Maia was very Mayweather-esque; didn't land a lot, but it was impressive in the way he completely neutralized a guy who had torn through everyone else in the division. As dull as the fight was, I kinda have to agree with Shockey in that his defense was really impressive.

the main thing I see comparing Wood and Floyd is that he's just trying to be about winning, nothing else. when you're champion, you can kind of afford to do that. as long as you keep winning, you'll still be champ, your fights will still be a big deal. Just like Mayweather, his fights aren't necessarily exciting, but people tune in kind of just to see if he'll lose. as long as T-Wood keeps winning, people will keep watching.


I am going to counter this with boxing and MMA are too different sports and the paydays are not obtained in the same way. Floyd gets the payday because of marketing in this way. It also appeals to old school boxing fans to watch the science performed in the way floyd does.

MMA big payout fighters are those that have excitement. Conner, Rhonda, Brock, Jones, and even throughout the history of the sport are people who if they win by finish or in exciting fashion they get paid. The fan base of mma is more into that and will pay for that. Even the popularity of fighters change with their fight styles such as GSP.... a killer early on that had less finishes on the 2nd part of his career.

Basically woodley wants to get paid in mma, but the history of the sport says fans dont want to pay for take down defense, they want to pay for knock outs.


No doubt, I think you're spot on. I'm just saying, I think that's whats in Woodley's mindset. However I think he'll find out (and already is, with Dana getting mad at him), that it might not work the same way when he's fighting in an organization like the UFC.

I just wonder how far the UFC will go to punish him for boring fights. Whether they'll be willing to let the title sit on the shelf for a while, not book fights for Wood just to stick it to him. Seems like the best situation for them would have been to give him the GSP fight... he's the guy most likely to beat Tyron and take the title. On the other hand, if they try to punish him by giving him lesser known fighters, it's going to be all the more easy for him to defend his belt and grow his brand.
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El ramster wrote:
11sanchez11 wrote:
Woodley got paid $540,000 from the UFC/Reebok on Saturday, more than anyone besides DC. And he should get PPV points once those numbers come out.



It's been reported that D.C. Made 1 million and change..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wTOFnGq_iI

Sanchez recorded himself watching the full fight..

Enjoy and watch all of it.
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BayRaider wrote:
Shockey1979 wrote:
I get the criticism of Woodley for not using the last 90 secs to try and get a finish and it's warranted. But overall that was an absolute clinic on how to fight a high level grappler. 0/21 takedown defense.. how do the fans not appreciate that sort of domination? One mistake and Maia is Champion. Is Woodley supposed to play into Maia's strength just for the entertainment of the fans? Guy fought two high level specialists his last 3 fights and is still champ by completely nullifying those strengths...oh and beat Lawler at his own game as well..If you can't appreciate that then I dunno...

Woodley didn't even want the Maia fight because of this reason. He knew it would be a borefest. He wants to fight freestyle fighters so he can use all his tools. Woodley/Lawler 2 should be epic and I think that's the fight that has to happen next in WW.


He stopped the takedowns because Maia was blind.. Woodley knew he had the fight won in Round 1 and took the easy coasting route because of Maias eyes. Could of finished anytime he wanted to. And this guy wants to be rewarded with big draws.. not happening.
Maia got his hands all over him the entire fight, I don't see how his eye has a lot to do with it after that. Also he landed more punches than like all of his fights, it doesn't affect his standup?

Also Woodley tore his labrum in his right shoulder in the 1st round. So that's the only reason he didn't finish Maia.
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