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 Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:05 pm Post subject: Redskins on top 100 NFL players list |
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65. Jordan Reed
70. Kirk Cousins
Who else makes it in your opinion?
I got Trent Williams and Josh Norman in the top 60. I think Norman should be in the 20s and Trent in the 30s or 40s.
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Both will probably be on there, but neither probably that high.
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Via PFF, Jordan Reed only dropped one catchable ball last season and was #1 in the NFL with the lowest drop rate of 1.49% amongst tight ends.
And Ryan Kerrigan ranks among the elite LBs in total pressures since 2014. He has 203 which is 3rd in the NFL only behind Von Miller and Khalil Mack.
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| turtle28 wrote: | Via PFF, Jordan Reed only dropped one catchable ball last season and was #1 in the NFL with the lowest drop rate of 1.49% amongst tight ends.
And Ryan Kerrigan ranks among the elite LBs in total pressures since 2014. He has 203 which is 3rd in the NFL only behind Von Miller and Khalil Mack. |
He's a 15 sack guy IMO. He has missed some over the years but he's had injuries. Is we can just get some consistent pressure between the other guys this guy can really shine. I personally believe Ryan's best football is infront of him. Like for these next 3 seasons.
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| ripsean21 wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | Via PFF, Jordan Reed only dropped one catchable ball last season and was #1 in the NFL with the lowest drop rate of 1.49% amongst tight ends.
And Ryan Kerrigan ranks among the elite LBs in total pressures since 2014. He has 203 which is 3rd in the NFL only behind Von Miller and Khalil Mack. |
He's a 15 sack guy IMO. He has missed some over the years but he's had injuries. Is we can just get some consistent pressure between the other guys this guy can really shine. I personally believe Ryan's best football is infront of him. Like for these next 3 seasons. |
I think Kerrigan can certainly get more pressure and sacks if the DL does a better job getting pressure and I think Allen and crew will. I really think our pressure from the defensive front 7 can be like the 2011 defense or better.
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@Redskins | Quote: | #Redskins CB @J_No24 checks in to the @nflnetwork Top 100 list at No. 59. #HTTR
📚: bit.ly/2qdZlMD |
Seems a little too low for Norman IMO but when I think about it, despite having good coverage, he didn't make that many game changing plays for our defense last year and that's what we needed him for the most. He needs to do better in that category for the rest of his time in D.C. and if our defense is going to become a top 10 defense.
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| turtle28 wrote: | @Redskins | Quote: | #Redskins CB @J_No24 checks in to the @nflnetwork Top 100 list at No. 59. #HTTR
📚: bit.ly/2qdZlMD |
Seems a little too low for Norman IMO but when I think about it, despite having good coverage, he didn't make that many game changing plays for our defense last year and that's what we needed him for the most. He needs to do better in that category for the rest of his time in D.C. and if our defense is going to become a top 10 defense. |
It's not his fault Joe Barry was a moron and had Breeland or Kendall Fuller covering the opposing teams top receiver.
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And I would like to see Brandon Scherff make it but he won't. He destroys people.
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| lavar703 wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | @Redskins | Quote: | #Redskins CB @J_No24 checks in to the @nflnetwork Top 100 list at No. 59. #HTTR
📚: bit.ly/2qdZlMD |
Seems a little too low for Norman IMO but when I think about it, despite having good coverage, he didn't make that many game changing plays for our defense last year and that's what we needed him for the most. He needs to do better in that category for the rest of his time in D.C. and if our defense is going to become a top 10 defense. |
It's not his fault Joe Barry was a moron and had Breeland or Kendall Fuller covering the opposing teams top receiver. |
Only in the first 2 games. Other than Norman rarely covering slot receivers which, Norman has rarely done in his career, Norman took the #1 assignment and traveled with them.
Look, players make the plays in the field. Norman just didn't make that many game changing plays for our defense. Period. He has to do better. Hopefully with the new additions to our front 7 there's more pressure created and he makes some more plays.
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| lavar703 wrote: | | And I would like to see Brandon Scherff make it but he won't. He destroys people. |
I think he could make it eventually, but he has to establish himself a bit more before he gets on the list. It is true that it's hard for interior lineman to make the list though.
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| turtle28 wrote: | | lavar703 wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | @Redskins | Quote: | #Redskins CB @J_No24 checks in to the @nflnetwork Top 100 list at No. 59. #HTTR
📚: bit.ly/2qdZlMD |
Seems a little too low for Norman IMO but when I think about it, despite having good coverage, he didn't make that many game changing plays for our defense last year and that's what we needed him for the most. He needs to do better in that category for the rest of his time in D.C. and if our defense is going to become a top 10 defense. |
It's not his fault Joe Barry was a moron and had Breeland or Kendall Fuller covering the opposing teams top receiver. |
Only in the first 2 games. Other than Norman rarely covering slot receivers which, Norman has rarely done in his career, Norman took the #1 assignment and traveled with them.
Look, players make the plays in the field. Norman just didn't make that many game changing plays for our defense. Period. He has to do better. Hopefully with the new additions to our front 7 there's more pressure created and he makes some more plays. |
He plays in the secondary, therefore he's at the mercy of the front 7. If they suck he's not going to be able to make plays.
Your unfounded criticisms of the Redskins best players continue. You're once again brushing aside the obviously correct criticism of Joe Barry's playcalling (which was all time atrocious) and pushing blame onto one of our best talents on the roster. I do not understand your line of thinking at all. Continue to blame Ryan Kerrigan and Josh Norman though if it makes you feel better. Joe Barry was one of the worst defensive coordinators in the history of the NFL.
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| turtle28 wrote: | | lavar703 wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | @Redskins | Quote: | #Redskins CB @J_No24 checks in to the @nflnetwork Top 100 list at No. 59. #HTTR
📚: bit.ly/2qdZlMD |
Seems a little too low for Norman IMO but when I think about it, despite having good coverage, he didn't make that many game changing plays for our defense last year and that's what we needed him for the most. He needs to do better in that category for the rest of his time in D.C. and if our defense is going to become a top 10 defense. |
It's not his fault Joe Barry was a moron and had Breeland or Kendall Fuller covering the opposing teams top receiver. |
Only in the first 2 games. Other than Norman rarely covering slot receivers which, Norman has rarely done in his career, Norman took the #1 assignment and traveled with them.
Look, players make the plays in the field. Norman just didn't make that many game changing plays for our defense. Period. He has to do better. Hopefully with the new additions to our front 7 there's more pressure created and he makes some more plays. |
Right  . He only had the highest playmaker index among all CBs last season. Nothing special. This graphic doesn't even include his forced fumble in the GB game that sealed that win for us, or the forced fumble in the first Cowboys game that should have given us the win if the offense didn't crap the bed.
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This is just ridiculous. I'm not hating on Josh Norman, I'm just saying he didn't have any ints returned for TDs, he dropped some ints he should have caught. Etc, everyone knows that.
The defense allowed a game winning drive vs Dallas.
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They all drop INTs. Just the nature of the position.
Richard Sherman hasn't had an interception returned for a TD in his last 3 seasons. Patrick Peterson hasn't had one in his last 2 seasons and has only 1 for his entire career. I guess they both suck too?
Interesting that you're judging someone based on fluke plays that they mostly have zero control over. |
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| HTTRG3Dynasty wrote: | They all drop INTs. Just the nature of the position.
Richard Sherman hasn't had an interception returned for a TD in his last 3 seasons. Patrick Peterson hasn't had one in his last 2 seasons and has only 1 for his entire career. I guess they both suck too?
Interesting that you're judging someone based on fluke plays that they mostly have zero control over. |
All I'm saying is that you all are overreacting to my statement. Basically, taking it out of context.
I never said Josh Norman sucked. But hey, keep overreacting and taking my statements out of context...
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