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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Found guilty and sentenced to one day in jail and has to complete his five remaining days of house arrest.

Basically, the judge bought the Kombucha tea defense.


Not really. This is typical for a low level offense probation violation. In larger counties 'sentences' are rarely harsh.
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An extreme DUI isn't a low level offense.
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An extreme DUI isn't a low level offense.


Despite the wording, yes it is. Certainly not something a prosecutor would like to go to trial over. I don't know AZ laws, but his level of DUI is a GM in Minnesota. These are dime a dozen cases for the county attorney.
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DocHambone wrote:
SemperFeist wrote:
An extreme DUI isn't a low level offense.


Despite the wording, yes it is. Certainly not something a prosecutor would like to go to trial over. I don't know AZ laws, but his level of DUI is a GM in Minnesota. These are dime a dozen cases for the county attorney.

It's a felony in AZ.

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In Arizona, most DUI offenses are classified as misdemeanors. However, Extreme and Aggravated DUIs and are both felony offenses in Arizona.

http://www.jacksonwhitelaw.com/criminal-defense-law/dui-felony-arizona/
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SemperFeist wrote:
DocHambone wrote:
SemperFeist wrote:
An extreme DUI isn't a low level offense.


Despite the wording, yes it is. Certainly not something a prosecutor would like to go to trial over. I don't know AZ laws, but his level of DUI is a GM in Minnesota. These are dime a dozen cases for the county attorney.

It's a felony in AZ.

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In Arizona, most DUI offenses are classified as misdemeanors. However, Extreme and Aggravated DUIs and are both felony offenses in Arizona.

http://www.jacksonwhitelaw.com/criminal-defense-law/dui-felony-arizona/


I understand this. Crime classifications are not much more than a concept and just dictate the max penalty one can receive (not what one will receive). Its still a dime a dozen case and the county attorneys office doesn't want to waste time going to trial with these type of cases. Relatively speaking, to what a county ends up charging out, its a low level offense.
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I think the kombucha defense does provide some doubt, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the standard punishment for a first violation with a low number.
Also remember he has to blow 6 times a day, so I doubt he a full night of drinking.
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Spielman: When we signed Michael Floyd, we hoped he would show signs of improvement and we continue to expect that he shows progress and a professional attitude. We believe Michael will be a productive member of the Vikings organization, both on and off the field. Pursuant to the ruling of the Arizona Court earlier today, Michael will serve the remainder of his sentence and we expect him to be with the team at the start of training camp in Mankato when the players report on July 26.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/06/26/vikings-release-statement-supporting-michael-floyd/
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There is speculation that Floyd may face a longer suspension due to his most recent incident:

http://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2017/06/type-nfl-suspension-will-michael-floyd-face/

We've discussed a 2 game ban before any of this occurred. What do you think MF would get if Goodell punishes him further?
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DocHambone wrote:
SemperFeist wrote:
DocHambone wrote:
SemperFeist wrote:
An extreme DUI isn't a low level offense.


Despite the wording, yes it is. Certainly not something a prosecutor would like to go to trial over. I don't know AZ laws, but his level of DUI is a GM in Minnesota. These are dime a dozen cases for the county attorney.

It's a felony in AZ.

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In Arizona, most DUI offenses are classified as misdemeanors. However, Extreme and Aggravated DUIs and are both felony offenses in Arizona.

http://www.jacksonwhitelaw.com/criminal-defense-law/dui-felony-arizona/


I understand this. Crime classifications are not much more than a concept and just dictate the max penalty one can receive (not what one will receive). Its still a dime a dozen case and the county attorneys office doesn't want to waste time going to trial with these type of cases. Relatively speaking, to what a county ends up charging out, its a low level offense.


Living in AZ, I can tell you that they take driving while intoxicated very seriously. It doesn't take much to get in trouble. I don't drink and drive, so I don't pay attention to the laws or how they change, but I know when I first moved here that if you had anything in your system, or any reading what so ever on a breathalyzer, you were getting at least a misdemeanor. The penalties for those misdemeanors also were pretty harsh (I think you had the option of paying something like a 5-digit fine somewhere like $50K plus, or going to a work camp for a week). It was explained to me that the reason stuff is so strict down here, and this may be completely wrong, was because of the Mexican immigrant and Native American population being so high along with less work for those demographics resulted in a higher use of alcohol by those demographics. This was then linked to drunk driving and alcohol related accidents and deaths, which at some point was very very bad in the state, though I believe it has gotten much better.

Either way, it felt like Floyd was getting off easy for the offense having happened in AZ.
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Vikings wide receiver Michael Floyd sold his kombucha tea defense to an Arizona judge and his skeptical head coach, Mike Zimmer.

Zimmer and Floyd talked over the telephone shortly after news broke about him failing three self-administered Breathalyzer tests June 10-11.

I said, If I find out youre lying to me, Im going to cut you, Zimmer said.


http://www.twincities.com/2017/07/13/vikings-mike-zimmer-to-michael-floyd-youd-better-not-be-lying/
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I said, If I find out youre lying to me, Im going to cut you, Zimmer said.

and he probably didn't mean from the roster.
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If that's the case, Zim needs to calm down a little, as violence isn't the answer. Laughing
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Maybe The Vikings should cut Floyd, and sign Boldin, to push Treadwell in Camp and the preseason. If he ends up beating Treadwell for the main 3rd sure hands short-to middle receiving threat, Treadwell wasn't improving enough, and The Vikings have another reliable red zone target.
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Zimmer: Do I believe it? I dont know how much tea he drank. I have no clue. I dont have any doubt why thered be skepticism, but he told me that he wasnt drinking. That it was legit.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/07/13/mike-zimmer-threatened-michael-floyd-with-release-if-he-lied/
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In general, people really want to believe that an addict has cleaned up their life (to be clear, addiction is a disease, and by cleaned up I mean taken control of it even though it is always there). It's the general hopefulness of our species. In practice? Well, stats aren't kind to the likelihood of it being true from what I've read (though that was years and years ago, maybe things have changed).
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