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Marcus21


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:44 pm    Post subject: Your reaction to the draft Reply with quote

For me..... this is one of the best drafts we have had in 20 years. The first 4 picks will start for us at some point! I just watched Ryan Anderson and Jonathon Allen's press conference. Theses kids are focused, highly intelligent, and all about football. This draft has Scott Mc finger prints all over it! I am so excited for the season! I also like the fact that we have competition all over the team! Mediocrity is no longer an option! If you want to be on this team you better bring your A game! We are are going to have some former 2nd and 3rd round picks fighting for a roster spots!!
I don't get to hung up on late round picks. Most of them won't make the team or are projects at best. Hopefully a few of them will be able to contribute on special teams. The only pick that I really don't like is Josh Harvey-Clemons. He doesn't even have practice squad potential in my eyes. Slow, poor tackler, and poor in coverage! Other than that A+ for me!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am Amazed that we covered so many positions of need and grabbed players that really have the potential to start for us.

Allen and Anderson should be instant starters and Dominaters

Perine should be worked into Very important situations (Goal Line) immediately.

Halfway through the year Fabian Moreau could be starting opposite Norman

Sprinkle will work on S Teams and can replace Davis when he retires or take some blocking roles. Just let someone else do his grocery shopping.

Roullier has played G and C so he could possibly be groomed for either but has the Power to play C in our Power scheme with our new Stud RB.

Davis is a FREAK and will have time to learn and grow and when we finally see him on the field I am SALIVATING at the squad of Pryor, Doctson, Crowder, Reed and Robert Davis plus (Thompson and M. Harris also 6'2") If Doctson comes around that is a DREAM team of WR's. Tall and Fast---- It's Awesome.

It was just a very coherent draft. And I'm probably underestimating one or two of our Safeties. One is going to start out learning at Dime LB : YES! But of all our picks it's those two that I doubt.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I give a B.
We heavily upgraded 1 position.
Maybe slightly upgraded 2 or 3 others over time.
Hopefully improved our special teams.
4th-6th I think we got caught reaching on all 4. While making solid choices for the 7th.

Compared to the division. Dallas gets a B+, Eagles a B- and Giants a D-.

(Cleveland and Jacksonville are my only A's)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This draft checked a lot of boxes for what I wanted us to do.

- Acquire a star player in the first round. I think this is mission accomplished. Jonathan Allen is one of the best players in this entire draft.

- Upgrade the pass rush. Our top two picks were designed to do this.

- Target some secondary players with our mid to late round picks. We got a very athletic CB in the 3rd, a SS in the 4th, and another S and CB in the later rounds. I'm glad we bolstered the depth of our secondary without spending premium picks on them (I felt like our front 7 needed those premium picks much more).

- Draft a slot CB. Everything I've read about Moreau is that he's very smart and a good tackler. Combine that with his speed and I think we've found our new slot CB (we got killed in the slot last year).

- Acquire a RB to compete for the starting role. It remains to be seen how Perine will pan out, but I think he's a quality bellcow back who can push for snaps early in his career.

- Draft a blocking TE. We don't have a blocking TE on the entire roster, and we don't carry a FB anymore. I can see Sprinkle getting playing time right away in the FB role.

- We didn't draft a QB. Good, we didn't need another one.

Some concerns of mine:

- Ryan Anderson in the 2nd rounds feels like a safe pick who likely has a high floor but low ceiling potential wise. I would rather have swung for the fences and tried to find a star player (we need star players, we have a ton of average players). I'm also concerned that he's another power edge rusher and not a speed rusher. All we have on the roster now are power rushers.

- We took two big SS prospects and not a single deep cover safety. I'm not sure we have a pure cover safety on our entire roster right now.

- We didn't draft a NT. We don't have a true NT on our current roster either.

- What's the deal at MLB? Is Anderson going to play some snaps there? We passed on Zach Cunningham for him. I hope we don't regret it.

- We passed on some solid OG prospects in the 4th round. Lauvao is not very good, and Kouandjio can't supplant him apparently. LG is going to be a weakness for us all year.

- We didn't trade down and acquire more picks for next year, which we had made a good habit of doing under McCloughan.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MKnight82 wrote:
- Ryan Anderson in the 2nd rounds feels like a safe pick who likely has a high floor but low ceiling potential wise. I would rather have swung for the fences and tried to find a star player (we need star players, we have a ton of average players). I'm also concerned that he's another power edge rusher and not a speed rusher. All we have on the roster now are power rushers.


I feel that we've done that pretty often in drafting "versatile" guys who can supposedly do many things i.e. Preston Smith, Su'a Cravens and so on...We need a guy who can step in immediately, play physically and do a job.

Ryan Anderson is a tough OLB who will set the edge and play the run effectively. He also did a good job rushing the passer and has more upside than another 2nd round pick of ours, Trent Murphy. Dude was always around the ball and flashed much more often than the guy across from him, Tim Williams.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the draft as a whole:

Day 1 was an absolute dream with teams at the top of the draft losing their mind and allowing us to grab talent that should not have been there.

Day 2 was a solid, workmanlike day. I'm still a bit meh about Anderson, but I like the Moreau signing even if he cannot contribute this year. To be fair, these two guys are moves that plan for the future, something I railed on Allen being unable to do.

Day 3 ... was a straight up botch. While the players selected themselves were not always bad picks in isolation, Allen and company left TONS of value on the table by ignoring better players in general, most of whom were at positions of need.

Note: I had not read any of the other posts before writing my thoughts because I wanted to give my opinion before I read the possible counters.

My pick by pick analysis of Day 3 can be found at the following links (read the Perine review first because otherwise the rest of the posts won't make much sense):
Samaje Perine: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502742#21502742
Montae Nicholson: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502752#21502752
Jeremy Sprinkle: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502755#21502755
Chase Rouiller: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502769#21502769
Robert Davis: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502775#21502775
Josh Harvey-Clemons: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502797#21502797
Joshua Holsey: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502805#21502805
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woz wrote:
Looking at the draft as a whole:

Day 1 was an absolute dream with teams at the top of the draft losing their mind and allowing us to grab talent that should not have been there.

Day 2 was a solid, workmanlike day. I'm still a bit meh about Anderson, but I like the Moreau signing even if he cannot contribute this year. To be fair, these two guys are moves that plan for the future, something I railed on Allen being unable to do.

Day 3 ... was a straight up botch. While the players selected themselves were not always bad picks in isolation, Allen and company left TONS of value on the table by ignoring better players in general, most of whom were at positions of need.

Note: I had not read any of the other posts before writing my thoughts because I wanted to give my opinion before I read the possible counters.

My pick by pick analysis of Day 3 can be found at the following links (read the Perine review first because otherwise the rest of the posts won't make much sense):
Samaje Perine: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502742#21502742
Montae Nicholson: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502752#21502752
Jeremy Sprinkle: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502755#21502755
Chase Rouiller: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502769#21502769
Robert Davis: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502775#21502775
Josh Harvey-Clemons: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502797#21502797
Joshua Holsey: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502805#21502805


Agree with you Woz - Loved the first 3 rounds along with Perine, but found myself scratching my head at some of the later picks.

I'm also much higher on Ryan Anderson than most of the people on this board.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am pretty happy with it. Seriously - Jonathan Allen? Didnt think that would happen at all. When you get what could be the best player in the draft, you cant be upset. I know there were more ideal needs in the second, but feel like Moreau was a good pick. And Anderson has the potential to be super disruptive. Start to question value on the back half of the draft, but thats way better than questioning value in the front half in the latter part.

I do have concern that we passed on some solid talent at NT and OG (and C for that matter - would have been happy with a strong center in the 2nd). Really wanted some stud fatboys in the interior of both sides.

But seriously, we have had some duds before, this doesnt feel like one quite yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woz wrote:
Looking at the draft as a whole:

Day 1 was an absolute dream with teams at the top of the draft losing their mind and allowing us to grab talent that should not have been there.

Day 2 was a solid, workmanlike day. I'm still a bit meh about Anderson, but I like the Moreau signing even if he cannot contribute this year. To be fair, these two guys are moves that plan for the future, something I railed on Allen being unable to do.

Day 3 ... was a straight up botch. While the players selected themselves were not always bad picks in isolation, Allen and company left TONS of value on the table by ignoring better players in general, most of whom were at positions of need.

Note: I had not read any of the other posts before writing my thoughts because I wanted to give my opinion before I read the possible counters.

My pick by pick analysis of Day 3 can be found at the following links (read the Perine review first because otherwise the rest of the posts won't make much sense):
Samaje Perine: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502742#21502742
Montae Nicholson: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502752#21502752
Jeremy Sprinkle: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502755#21502755
Chase Rouiller: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502769#21502769
Robert Davis: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502775#21502775
Josh Harvey-Clemons: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502797#21502797
Joshua Holsey: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502805#21502805


Completely agree.

Day 1 = Ecstatic

Day 2 = Meh, with upside

Day 3 = I pictured Allen going "Draft? What Draft? what is a draft?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are going to love Ryan Anderson....and that's all I have to say about that (Forrest Gump voice).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeezy Fanatic wrote:


But we got Jeremy Sprinkle, isn't that the TE you were looking for? Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still shocked we passed on Isiah Ford in the 7th round.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lavar703 wrote:
I'm still shocked we passed on Isiah Ford in the 7th round.


Same here. Couldve gotten him in the 6th and I wouldve been happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also...

Its been 8 years since we switched to a 3-4 alignment.

Raise your hand if youre not surprised that we didnt address the most crucial position, NT, yet again.

<raises hand>
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