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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: 2017 6.15 (199) C Chase Rollier, Wyoming Reply with quote

6'4" 312 so I love the pure size at the pivot. Two time team captain and played some guard so I guess this this is the interior guy we were hoping for. Espn claims his short arms and lack of upper body strength limits his ceiling to effective backup not full time starter. Practice squad at best???
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If you have any talent you go to a state that doesn't have more horses than humans. Waste of a pick, guaranteed bust
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roullier is a good player. I bet he ends up starting for y'all and plays well.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like he will become a solid back up which isn't a bad thing
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(for more information on my aggregate list see: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502742#21502742 )

6.15 (199): Chase Rouiller, C from Wyoming; 130th overall with 286.0 aggregate (83.02 std. dev; CBS = 336, DT = 353, NFL.com = 169)

Where to start? We finally decide to upgrade the offensive line. Except, we take a center (where Long has played decently) instead of a guard (to upgrade Lauvao). Also, we take the fourth best available center. Not the fourth best available at the start of Day 3, but the fourth best available at the time of the selection (Tyler Orlosky, 145.3 / 65.1; Kyle Fuller, 149.7 / 38.42; and Cameron Tom 281.0 / 135.06 (NFL.com had him ranked at 472nd, which is why both his average and std dev are so high)).

Oh, and we traded UP for this guy. What the heck??

Other options that would have been better: Hodges, Qualls, Isaiah Ford (WR, 138.7 / 17.21), Jessamen Dunker (G, 143.7 / 24.25), or Orlosky. All of these guys would have been better picks in terms of value, and Qualls and Dunker would have been better for need.

Swing and a miss.
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Woz wrote:
(for more information on my aggregate list see: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502742#21502742 )

6.15 (199): Chase Rouiller, C from Wyoming; 130th overall with 286.0 aggregate (83.02 std. dev; CBS = 336, DT = 353, NFL.com = 169)

Where to start? We finally decide to upgrade the offensive line. Except, we take a center (where Long has played decently) instead of a guard (to upgrade Lauvao). Also, we take the fourth best available center. Not the fourth best available at the start of Day 3, but the fourth best available at the time of the selection (Tyler Orlosky, 145.3 / 65.1; Kyle Fuller, 149.7 / 38.42; and Cameron Tom 281.0 / 135.06 (NFL.com had him ranked at 472nd, which is why both his average and std dev are so high)).

Oh, and we traded UP for this guy. What the heck??

Other options that would have been better: Hodges, Qualls, Isaiah Ford (WR, 138.7 / 17.21), Jessamen Dunker (G, 143.7 / 24.25), or Orlosky. All of these guys would have been better picks in terms of value, and Qualls and Dunker would have been better for need.

Swing and a miss.
Meh, I feel like once you get in the 6th its just a total crapshoot. Sounds like this kid can play Center and Guard, which is exactly what we needed. A versatile interior Oline backup. He'll be able to backup both Spencer Long and Brandon Scherff. I think this was a pretty good pick.
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MKnight82 wrote:
Woz wrote:
(for more information on my aggregate list see: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502742#21502742 )

6.15 (199): Chase Rouiller, C from Wyoming; 130th overall with 286.0 aggregate (83.02 std. dev; CBS = 336, DT = 353, NFL.com = 169)

Where to start? We finally decide to upgrade the offensive line. Except, we take a center (where Long has played decently) instead of a guard (to upgrade Lauvao). Also, we take the fourth best available center. Not the fourth best available at the start of Day 3, but the fourth best available at the time of the selection (Tyler Orlosky, 145.3 / 65.1; Kyle Fuller, 149.7 / 38.42; and Cameron Tom 281.0 / 135.06 (NFL.com had him ranked at 472nd, which is why both his average and std dev are so high)).

Oh, and we traded UP for this guy. What the heck??

Other options that would have been better: Hodges, Qualls, Isaiah Ford (WR, 138.7 / 17.21), Jessamen Dunker (G, 143.7 / 24.25), or Orlosky. All of these guys would have been better picks in terms of value, and Qualls and Dunker would have been better for need.

Swing and a miss.
Meh, I feel like once you get in the 6th its just a total crapshoot. Sounds like this kid can play Center and Guard, which is exactly what we needed. A versatile interior Oline backup. He'll be able to backup both Spencer Long and Brandon Scherff. I think this was a pretty good pick.


I get the crapshoot perspective. But why take a guy is considered a lesser prospect? Why not try to maximize your chances that your shot actually pays off?

There were other, better backups to be had.
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Woz wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
Woz wrote:
(for more information on my aggregate list see: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502742#21502742 )

6.15 (199): Chase Rouiller, C from Wyoming; 130th overall with 286.0 aggregate (83.02 std. dev; CBS = 336, DT = 353, NFL.com = 169)

Where to start? We finally decide to upgrade the offensive line. Except, we take a center (where Long has played decently) instead of a guard (to upgrade Lauvao). Also, we take the fourth best available center. Not the fourth best available at the start of Day 3, but the fourth best available at the time of the selection (Tyler Orlosky, 145.3 / 65.1; Kyle Fuller, 149.7 / 38.42; and Cameron Tom 281.0 / 135.06 (NFL.com had him ranked at 472nd, which is why both his average and std dev are so high)).

Oh, and we traded UP for this guy. What the heck??

Other options that would have been better: Hodges, Qualls, Isaiah Ford (WR, 138.7 / 17.21), Jessamen Dunker (G, 143.7 / 24.25), or Orlosky. All of these guys would have been better picks in terms of value, and Qualls and Dunker would have been better for need.

Swing and a miss.
Meh, I feel like once you get in the 6th its just a total crapshoot. Sounds like this kid can play Center and Guard, which is exactly what we needed. A versatile interior Oline backup. He'll be able to backup both Spencer Long and Brandon Scherff. I think this was a pretty good pick.


I get the crapshoot perspective. But why take a guy is considered a lesser prospect? Why not try to maximize your chances that your shot actually pays off?

There were other, better backups to be had.
Let's just say I'm hoping this is a guy McCloughan scouted and wanted and so we went after him.
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MKnight82 wrote:
Woz wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
Woz wrote:
(for more information on my aggregate list see: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502742#21502742 )

6.15 (199): Chase Rouiller, C from Wyoming; 130th overall with 286.0 aggregate (83.02 std. dev; CBS = 336, DT = 353, NFL.com = 169)

Where to start? We finally decide to upgrade the offensive line. Except, we take a center (where Long has played decently) instead of a guard (to upgrade Lauvao). Also, we take the fourth best available center. Not the fourth best available at the start of Day 3, but the fourth best available at the time of the selection (Tyler Orlosky, 145.3 / 65.1; Kyle Fuller, 149.7 / 38.42; and Cameron Tom 281.0 / 135.06 (NFL.com had him ranked at 472nd, which is why both his average and std dev are so high)).

Oh, and we traded UP for this guy. What the heck??

Other options that would have been better: Hodges, Qualls, Isaiah Ford (WR, 138.7 / 17.21), Jessamen Dunker (G, 143.7 / 24.25), or Orlosky. All of these guys would have been better picks in terms of value, and Qualls and Dunker would have been better for need.

Swing and a miss.
Meh, I feel like once you get in the 6th its just a total crapshoot. Sounds like this kid can play Center and Guard, which is exactly what we needed. A versatile interior Oline backup. He'll be able to backup both Spencer Long and Brandon Scherff. I think this was a pretty good pick.


I get the crapshoot perspective. But why take a guy is considered a lesser prospect? Why not try to maximize your chances that your shot actually pays off?

There were other, better backups to be had.
Let's just say I'm hoping this is a guy McCloughan scouted and wanted and so we went after him.


Maybe so ... but I would have hoped they would have focused on getting a true guard instead of a "well, he might fit in multiple spots." Oh well.
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Kory retired and John Sullivan is a Charger. We only have one center on the roster. Center was a huge need!
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Kory retired and John Sullivan is a Charger. We only have one center on the roster. Center was a huge need!


1. I would have rather focused on upgrading the starting left guard position as opposed to the backup center.
2. There were better options available at center when we took this kid.
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Woz wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
Woz wrote:
MKnight82 wrote:
Woz wrote:
(for more information on my aggregate list see: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21502742#21502742 )

6.15 (199): Chase Rouiller, C from Wyoming; 130th overall with 286.0 aggregate (83.02 std. dev; CBS = 336, DT = 353, NFL.com = 169)

Where to start? We finally decide to upgrade the offensive line. Except, we take a center (where Long has played decently) instead of a guard (to upgrade Lauvao). Also, we take the fourth best available center. Not the fourth best available at the start of Day 3, but the fourth best available at the time of the selection (Tyler Orlosky, 145.3 / 65.1; Kyle Fuller, 149.7 / 38.42; and Cameron Tom 281.0 / 135.06 (NFL.com had him ranked at 472nd, which is why both his average and std dev are so high)).

Oh, and we traded UP for this guy. What the heck??

Other options that would have been better: Hodges, Qualls, Isaiah Ford (WR, 138.7 / 17.21), Jessamen Dunker (G, 143.7 / 24.25), or Orlosky. All of these guys would have been better picks in terms of value, and Qualls and Dunker would have been better for need.

Swing and a miss.
Meh, I feel like once you get in the 6th its just a total crapshoot. Sounds like this kid can play Center and Guard, which is exactly what we needed. A versatile interior Oline backup. He'll be able to backup both Spencer Long and Brandon Scherff. I think this was a pretty good pick.


I get the crapshoot perspective. But why take a guy is considered a lesser prospect? Why not try to maximize your chances that your shot actually pays off?

There were other, better backups to be had.
Let's just say I'm hoping this is a guy McCloughan scouted and wanted and so we went after him.


Maybe so ... but I would have hoped they would have focused on getting a true guard instead of a "well, he might fit in multiple spots." Oh well.
Seeing as how we have the highest paid LT in football, the 2nd highest paid RT in football, and will need to extend Scherff to a hefty amount I expect Spencer Long will be leaving us after this year. I think you could argue Center was a huge need (and likely still will be).
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Seeing as how we have the highest paid LT in football, the 2nd highest paid RT in football, and will need to extend Scherff to a hefty amount I expect Spencer Long will be leaving us after this year. I think you could argue Center was a huge need (and likely still will be).


1. You have a point.
2. I don't think we solved the center problem so taking him means we have a guy?
3. But think on how much money we'll save when we aren't paying for Kirk Cousins! Oh ... wait ...

EDIT: https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/ol/
If we wanted to roll the dice on a guy, Cameron Tom (4th amongst OL) might have been the better call (Roullier came in 129th).
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What if he claims the starting OC and pushes Long to LG?All the analasis I heard said he was perfect for the power run scheme.I am quietly optimistic Twisted Evil
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Woz wrote:
Marcus21 wrote:
Kory retired and John Sullivan is a Charger. We only have one center on the roster. Center was a huge need!


1. I would have rather focused on upgrading the starting left guard position as opposed to the backup center.
2. There were better options available at center when we took this kid.
Lauvao isn't great, but he's a passable starter at LG and we have Kouandijo already as a reserve guard. A reserve Center was clearly a bigger need. And unless we were going to take a guard in round 1 or 2 in this draft, I don't think we would have found a starting guard day 1 in this draft.
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