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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hodges is very athletic but needs to refine his skills. He caught 48 passes last season for 691 yards and seven touchdowns. Hodges is a very confident player, saying he wants to be an NFL “legend” and lead the Vikings to “multiple” Super Bowl wins.

http://www.twincities.com/2017/04/29/a-look-at-the-vikings-2017-draft-choices/
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Klomp wrote:
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why do guys feel Hodges dropped so far from his projected ranking...?

Depth at TE in this draft. He was the 13th of 14 TEs drafted.

There were 12 TEs taken in the first five rounds. Last year, there were 5.


Hodges: “I’ve got a chip on my shoulder the size of a boulder. I got picked in the sixth round. I was expecting earlier, but I’ve got a story of my own to write now. Tom Brady was also a sixth-round pick, but I’ve got my own story. I’ve got a Bucky Hodges story to write.’’

Spielman: “Athletically, he’s off the charts. The Hokies played him out of position. They’ve pretty much played him as a receiver last year. I think he has tremendous upside as an athlete.”

http://www.twincities.com/2017/04/29/late-round-vikings-picks-bucky-hodges-ifeadi-odenigbo-have-ample-confidence/
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why do guys feel Hodges dropped so far from his projected ranking...?


People have no clue how to use him. He doesn't block but is basically a big WR. He did sort of struggle last year also
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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vike daddy wrote:
why do guys feel Hodges dropped so far from his projected ranking...?


People have no clue how to use him. He doesn't block but is basically a big WR. He did sort of struggle last year also

How is he different from Devin Funchess, who was a second rounder just two years ago?
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Klomp wrote:
gopherwrestler wrote:
vike daddy wrote:
why do guys feel Hodges dropped so far from his projected ranking...?


People have no clue how to use him. He doesn't block but is basically a big WR. He did sort of struggle last year also

How is he different from Devin Funchess, who was a second rounder just two years ago?


Well Funchness actually played Wr in a Big 10 offense. Back to back 700 yard seasons also. He was a little bit more ready when entering the NFL. Ran pro routes actually pretty well.

Hodges did play well, but one struggle was you never really saw him improve, still is raw, and rarely went up and got the ball at the highest point. No doubt he could end up improving.

He also has been arrested for public intoxication. While not a HUGE deal but still a red flag.
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Klomp wrote:
gopherwrestler wrote:
vike daddy wrote:
why do guys feel Hodges dropped so far from his projected ranking...?


People have no clue how to use him. He doesn't block but is basically a big WR. He did sort of struggle last year also

How is he different from Devin Funchess, who was a second rounder just two years ago?


Well Funchness actually played Wr in a Big 10 offense. Back to back 700 yard seasons also. He was a little bit more ready when entering the NFL. Ran pro routes actually pretty well.

Hodges did play well, but one struggle was you never really saw him improve, still is raw, and rarely went up and got the ball at the highest point. No doubt he could end up improving.

He also has been arrested for public intoxication. While not a HUGE deal but still a red flag.


Hodges was in the ACC, played WR this past year, only taking 17 snaps in-line. Three straight 40-catch, 500-yard, 6-touchdown seasons.
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so why do Spielman and fans/analysts say VT "didn't use Hodges correctly?"
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so why do Spielman and fans/analysts say VT "didn't use Hodges correctly?"

Because he was used exclusively as a WR
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so why do Spielman and fans/analysts say VT "didn't use Hodges correctly?"

Because he was used exclusively as a WR

and so fast cb's and such could stay with him, as opposed to him getting mis-matches with slower lb's, is that it?
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Hodges: “I’ve got a chip on my shoulder the size of a boulder


Someday people will correctly understand the origin of this idiom lol
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Hodges: “I’ve got a chip on my shoulder the size of a boulder

Someday people will correctly understand the origin of this idiom lol


"A chip on the shoulder" comes from the ancient right of shipwrights within the Royal Navy Dockyards to take home a daily allowance of offcuts of timber, even if good wood was cut up for this purpose. The privilege was instated as a prescriptive right from 1634. By 1756, this privilege had been abused and was costing taxpayers too much in lost timber for warship repair and construction. The decision was then made by the Navy Board to limit the quantity a shipwright could carry home. A warrant was issued to the Royal Dockyards to reduce the quantity of chips by ordering shipwrights to carry their bundles under their arms instead of on their shoulders, as one could not carry as much timber in this fashion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_on_shoulder
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vike daddy wrote:
Dolmonite26 wrote:
vike daddy wrote:

Hodges: “I’ve got a chip on my shoulder the size of a boulder

Someday people will correctly understand the origin of this idiom lol


"A chip on the shoulder" comes from the ancient right of shipwrights within the Royal Navy Dockyards to take home a daily allowance of offcuts of timber, even if good wood was cut up for this purpose. The privilege was instated as a prescriptive right from 1634. By 1756, this privilege had been abused and was costing taxpayers too much in lost timber for warship repair and construction. The decision was then made by the Navy Board to limit the quantity a shipwright could carry home. A warrant was issued to the Royal Dockyards to reduce the quantity of chips by ordering shipwrights to carry their bundles under their arms instead of on their shoulders, as one could not carry as much timber in this fashion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_on_shoulder


Right on. I just always find it funny because when people reference it they rarely refer to wood. It's normally a boulder, or in Johnny Manziels case...a Dorito

But I digress
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Klomp wrote:
gopherwrestler wrote:
Klomp wrote:
gopherwrestler wrote:
vike daddy wrote:
why do guys feel Hodges dropped so far from his projected ranking...?


People have no clue how to use him. He doesn't block but is basically a big WR. He did sort of struggle last year also

How is he different from Devin Funchess, who was a second rounder just two years ago?


Well Funchness actually played Wr in a Big 10 offense. Back to back 700 yard seasons also. He was a little bit more ready when entering the NFL. Ran pro routes actually pretty well.

Hodges did play well, but one struggle was you never really saw him improve, still is raw, and rarely went up and got the ball at the highest point. No doubt he could end up improving.

He also has been arrested for public intoxication. While not a HUGE deal but still a red flag.


Hodges was in the ACC, played WR this past year, only taking 17 snaps in-line. Three straight 40-catch, 500-yard, 6-touchdown seasons.


Yes, that's still not 733, and 748 in back to back season. I'm not saying Hodges did anything bad, but he just wasn't as "ready" as Funchness was. It also helped the 2015 draft class for WR TEs were not exactly a stacked class. Carolina also liked their big receivers at the time.
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I think Hodges might be one of the biggest steals in this draft. Love the pick.
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Robb_K wrote:
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Hodges is Matt Waldman's 3rd ranked TE, and 1 of 5 of his tier 1 TEs

He hardly blocks at all. So, he's basically a tall, long-armed possession wide receiver, who can win "jump balls", and catch balls in the corner of the end zone.

Gronkowsi-ish...?
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