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Round 3 Pick 41 Overall 105: RB James Conner 6'1 233 4.65
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:48 am    Post subject: Round 3 Pick 41 Overall 105: RB James Conner 6'1 233 4.65 Reply with quote



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OVERVIEW
Conner has become one of the best stories coming out of college football the past couple of seasons, overcoming a diagnosis of Hodgkin's lymphoma to return to the field. He won the Disney Spirit Award and the ACC Brian Piccolo Award as rewards for beating cancer, but his best accomplishment was earning first-team all-conference recognition by carrying the ball 216 times for 1,092 yards and 16 touchdowns this season. Doctors found the issue while Conner was trying to rehabilitate a torn right MCL that forced him to miss all but the opener of the 2015 season. Conner made a name for himself by racking up 1,765 yards and 26 scores as a sophomore, garnering second-team AP All-American and ACC Player of the Year honors. He ranked third in the FBS in rushing yards despite being hindered by a hip injury the final two regular season games. In his true freshman season, Conner came on late, setting a school bowl record with 229 yards against Bowling Green as the Little Caesar's Bowl MVP (he had 799 yards, eight TDs total on the year.)
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Team captain known for incredible resilience and mental toughness. Leaned down and added more muscle mass this season. Arm tackles are a waste of time. Carries heavy momentum behind pads at finish. Drops shoulder to punish final tackler. Uses wicked stiff-arm to punch and swat tacklers to the ground. Creates for himself through brute force. Natural power in lower half. Doesn't need a clean point of entry for aggressive, downhill charge. Excellent contact balance despite heavy shots on his legs. Short-yardage specialist who can move the chains and score touchdowns. Willing to leave his feet and sacrifice body near goal line. Willing blocker in pass pro and showed ability to come out of backfield in wheel routes, swing passes and outs.
WEAKNESSES Needs a clean slate of blocks to consistently make his way around the corner on the next level. Could struggle to accelerate from tacklers if he gets too cute. Runs with stiff hips and heavy legs. Lacks quick-escape athleticism for sudden shake in open field. All power, no finesse. Early defensive penetration short-circuits his run. Average lateral movement and not desired amount for every-down back. Can be a little slow to process moving parts in front of him. Not a press-and-cut back and needs to learn to set blocks up better. Hands a little stiff as pass catcher and will fight the ball at times. Tape shows occasional confusion in blitz pick-up. Medical concerns will continue to follow him.
DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 5-6
NFL COMPARISON T.J. Duckett
BOTTOM LINE Physical, battering-ram style runner who makes the hitting a two-way affair. Conner's lack of speed and reactive quickness could limit his role as a pro, but his heart, work ethic and ability to keep the chains moving could make him a red-zone specialist with the ability to handle some third down duties as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really not a fan of how they have handled our backup RB situation this offseason. Instead of signing Knile Davis and overdrafting James Conner, I wouldve rather resigned DeAngelo Williams and drafted a guy like Joe Williams in the later rounds (or even Conner if he fell to round 5 or 6).

I will support Conner 100%, but its the opportunity cost that bothers me the most about this pick.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought this was at least 1 round too early, if not 2. I had noticed though that in those draft games and projections he was usually there in 5 or 6, but now he's been gone almost every time in 4. Hopefully he can get really healthy, and get some more explosiveness, and not fumble a playoff game away like that scrub Toussaint if Bell is hurt again.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelers knew he wouldn't be there in round 4. Conner is a solid RB but his character and story will win over fans. Other teams kno that as well and will try to draft him.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

armsteeld wrote:
Steelers knew he wouldn't be there in round 4. Conner is a solid RB but his character and story will win over fans. Other teams kno that as well and will try to draft him.


Just because other teams will overdraft a player doesn't mean you should over overdraft him to get to him. Unless he is a future HOFer or a starting franchise QB at which point there is no such thing as overdrafting.

Of course I don't know how overdrafted he was, just going off what others have said.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I was listening to someone talk about this pick (I think it was Gil Brandt on NFLRadio) and they were talking about James Conner and his cancer issue. And the guy equated it to the way we took Stephon Tuitt.

A guy who had some health issues that caused him to slide down the draft board, but when you go back on the tape you see a guy who should be drafted much much higher than where he was actually drafted at.

The guy said based on the tape before cancer, Conner was easily a second round pick.

I'm really wondering if this is the case. The team looked at his old tape, knowing he had chemo and that last year was still a recovery year for him.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Connor really looked good at the end of the year. Sort of hints at what you are saying, warfelg.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TXsteeler wrote:
armsteeld wrote:
Steelers knew he wouldn't be there in round 4. Conner is a solid RB but his character and story will win over fans. Other teams kno that as well and will try to draft him.


Just because other teams will overdraft a player doesn't mean you should over overdraft him to get to him. Unless he is a future HOFer or a starting franchise QB at which point there is no such thing as overdrafting.

Of course I don't know how overdrafted he was, just going off what others have said.


Steelers had him high on their draft board. Tomlin likes bigger backs. Conner is as fast as Bell. Conner has soft hands out of the backfield and looks natural catching the ball. He has some fumbling issues that need correcting. I like him better than Hunt,
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOSteelers56 wrote:
Apparently Connor really looked good at the end of the year. Sort of hints at what you are saying, warfelg.


He did. And if you know anyone that went through chemo, you know what he did last year was telling of what type of man he is. It takes most people over a year to get some semblance of a life back after chemo, but here he was playing football at a high level.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overdrafted...unless they honestly feel he's a 3 down back, which many would disagree with.

I understood every other pick, even Sutton who should be the slot guy...not this one.
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AlanFanecaFan wrote:
Overdrafted...unless they honestly feel he's a 3 down back, which many would disagree with.

I understood every other pick, even Sutton who should be the slot guy...not this one.


What constitutes a 3 down back? He can pass block, he can catch, and he can run the ball. I see a complete RB. Watch his film and you'll see everything he can do.
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armsteeld wrote:
AlanFanecaFan wrote:
Overdrafted...unless they honestly feel he's a 3 down back, which many would disagree with.

I understood every other pick, even Sutton who should be the slot guy...not this one.


What constitutes a 3 down back? He can pass block, he can catch, and he can run the ball. I see a complete RB. Watch his film and you'll see everything he can do.


He can do that and do most of that well. Here's the thing, we have a Top 2 RB in the NFL
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armsteeld wrote:
AlanFanecaFan wrote:
Overdrafted...unless they honestly feel he's a 3 down back, which many would disagree with.

I understood every other pick, even Sutton who should be the slot guy...not this one.


What constitutes a 3 down back? He can pass block, he can catch, and he can run the ball. I see a complete RB. Watch his film and you'll see everything he can do.


He can do that and do most of that well. Here's the thing, we have a Top 2 RB in the NFL


Who stays injured. I wanted a blazer but I like this pick.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted Conner but thought it was at least a round too early.
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Love the player, hate the pick.

This draft seems as much about building the character of the locker room as it is the talent on the field.
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