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OakRaiders3828


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Let's get it back to the Raiders Wink
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightTrainLane wrote:
Synyster wrote:


Is Synyster gonna have to......?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kujtZlKLL7Y



Gonna have to make an example of you...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t9x_y3vFic


Come on Synyster, you can do it...

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raidr4life wrote:


Come on Synyster, you can do it...



Okay...

This is YOUR fault!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6hOMKQTC7w

AAAHHH!!! ZOMBIE!!!


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
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He should. I have seen lots a places were he is listed as first round talent. Weight issues played biggest part. here is article.

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2017/5/5/15560616/anonymous-scouts-pre-draft-eddie-vanderdoes-was-entitled-coddled-by-ucla-coaches


Entitled and coddled. Two words I love in a football player.

He does have a certain aura of smug around him now that I think about it Laughing


I don't get that off him from what little we've I've but that's just me. I think the weight issue was just an easy target for detractors to aim at. Once he showed up at the senior bowl looking better than during the year, the lazy and entitled tag could be one way to go but I'm more of a mind that it was coming off leg injuries that stop him from working out properly and the added focus, support and time of the predraft process that brought about the change.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enough. I'm fine with joking around a bit but we have like a page of the back and forth. Get back on topic.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
Enough. I'm fine with joking around a bit but we have like a page of the back and forth. Get back on topic.

You're totally right, but before that happens you gotta let me make my return first. This forum needs their hero back!

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Synyster wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
Enough. I'm fine with joking around a bit but we have like a page of the back and forth. Get back on topic.

You're totally right, but before that happens you gotta let me make my return first. This forum needs their hero back!


Nah. You've had enough fun.

Besides. Who even are you?
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightTrainLane wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
He should. I have seen lots a places were he is listed as first round talent. Weight issues played biggest part. here is article.

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2017/5/5/15560616/anonymous-scouts-pre-draft-eddie-vanderdoes-was-entitled-coddled-by-ucla-coaches


Entitled and coddled. Two words I love in a football player.

He does have a certain aura of smug around him now that I think about it Laughing


I don't get that off him from what little we've I've but that's just me. I think the weight issue was just an easy target for detractors to aim at. Once he showed up at the senior bowl looking better than during the year, the lazy and entitled tag could be one way to go but I'm more of a mind that it was coming off leg injuries that stop him from working out properly and the added focus, support and time of the predraft process that brought about the change.


Yep, without speaking with him we wouldn't really know but with the locker room we have (including the coaches) and a fall to the third round which may have bruised any ego I think we're as good a place as any for a young player who needs to show he can work hard. A lot of people had similar kind of concerns over Mario Edwards and that seems to have worked out well from a conditioning and work ethic point of view so I'm optimistic
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightTrainLane wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
He should. I have seen lots a places were he is listed as first round talent. Weight issues played biggest part. here is article.

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2017/5/5/15560616/anonymous-scouts-pre-draft-eddie-vanderdoes-was-entitled-coddled-by-ucla-coaches


Entitled and coddled. Two words I love in a football player.

He does have a certain aura of smug around him now that I think about it Laughing


I don't get that off him from what little we've I've but that's just me. I think the weight issue was just an easy target for detractors to aim at. Once he showed up at the senior bowl looking better than during the year, the lazy and entitled tag could be one way to go but I'm more of a mind that it was coming off leg injuries that stop him from working out properly and the added focus, support and time of the predraft process that brought about the change.
Personally when I read the article I thought it was more a knock on the coaches than the player. Usually they would go negative only on the player if he was the target. In this case though it sound like the staff didn't do much to point him in the right direction and provide any accountability. Ultimatley its on him but lets be real this is a kid between 19-21 that sounds like got no direction from his coaches once hurt.
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumb NFL rules will keep Eddie from all the rest of our OTAs and mini camps this summer til the June 16 when the UCLA qtr ends. The next time he will be with the team is late July for training camp. He gets to study the playbook and talk to coaches but can't workout or practice with the team. I hope he just goes back to the training facility where he prepared for the combine and Rookie mini camp. Don't need him packing on any weight.
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://raidersanalysis.com/2017/05/10/eddie-vanderdoes-who-he-is-was-and-could-be-2013-2016-film-study-by-tyler-dickson/
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raiderrocker18 wrote:
https://raidersanalysis.com/2017/05/10/eddie-vanderdoes-who-he-is-was-and-could-be-2013-2016-film-study-by-tyler-dickson/
The more I see and read on this guy he is the real deal. Really if they weight stays where it should he should be able to help fast. Sounds like he does a lot of the functional and technical things right already which bodes well for him playing early.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

raiderrocker18 wrote:
https://raidersanalysis.com/2017/05/10/eddie-vanderdoes-who-he-is-was-and-could-be-2013-2016-film-study-by-tyler-dickson/


Good read, thanks Raiderrocker!

Pleased that it confirms some things a few of us saw in him during the draft process. Hoping that this guy is the cog in the machinery that makes the other parts better Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brantley charges dropped looks like he will be compared with Vanderdoes for there careers.
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raidr4life wrote:
Brantley charges dropped looks like he will be compared with Vanderdoes for there careers.


Got Damnit! I mean good for him but he was compared to Aaron Donald. I had him as a late 1st to mid 2nd talent wise. Maybe he had other character concerns besides the club issue. Of course, I trust Reggie but the Browns seem to have gotten a steal in the 6th. I hope Eddie comes out like a monster now more than ever.
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