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Ether


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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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300 pound dude runs sub 5.0 forty, has a 32" vert, and that's not explosive?


Cool if he has to chase a RB 40 yards he will only be 15 yards behind hm


And if you had to chase him 40 yards, you'd be 15 yards behind him.

What does that matter?

Here's some perspective on his explosiveness: Kizer, who was a high school basketball star also, jumped 30.5" at 233 pounds compared to Ogunjobi's 32" at 305.

At 6'3" with 32" arms and a 32" vert, there is no doubt he could dunk a basketball.

If you want to argue that a 300 pound man with the ability to dunk a basketball doesn't have an explosive lower body, you must just like to argue.


How many sacks will he have his first 2 years? Give me a number and stop projecting his "freaking nuts" lower body explosion that isn't on film. This conversation is boring.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say Larry has less than 5 sacks in 2 years but will see the field and probably be solid overall.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ether wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
300 pound dude runs sub 5.0 forty, has a 32" vert, and that's not explosive?


Cool if he has to chase a RB 40 yards he will only be 15 yards behind hm


Is running as fast as a running back an expectation for a DT?

What's the point here?


Is running 40 yards an expectation for a DT?

What's his point here?


Ditch was right, you just want to argue.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ogunjobi is a great athlete. He's got more than enough juice to chase down QB's and play the penetrating 3-Tech spot.

Go back and watch Charlotte play, guys. He was lining up as a 0-1 Technique almost his entire career, as they did not have anyone else to fill that spot. He was murking double teams and creating TFL's regularly. He rarely saw a single block and when he did, he exploded right past the block and into the backfield. I wanted Brantley over Ogunjobi, but we ended up with both. Both are excellent penetrating 3-Techniques. Both played a lot of 0-1 Technique in college based on their schemes. It limited their sack production, but neither will have any issues rushing the passer in a 3-T spot.


3rd down & Long DL:

LE: Ogbah
3-T: Ogunjobi
3-T: Brantley
RE: Garrett

that's gonna be impossible to deal with...plus if you want to send 5, you can send Peppers off 1 edge or Collins off the other. Good luck.



Also consider the fact that on passing downs, Ogunjobi will never draw double teams. With Garrett and Ogbah lurking on the outsides, I don't see how teams could double the 3-Tech and treat that as a priority. He's going to have a ton of 1-1 opportunities and there are very few players in this draft that I'd take in terms of pass rush potential 1-1 against guards than Ogunjobi.


Watch his tape against Louisville. He ripped them up. He has a great motor. Great conditioning. Supreme explosion out of his stance. Our DL is going to be supremely athletic.
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If you don't think Larry O is explosive than you didn't think Allen wasn't explosive for a DT either. L.O. nearly 20lbs heavier were putting up numbers that compared pretty similar to J.A.

Heck if he wasn't explosive, he wouldn't be considered the 6th best athlete by sparq score. If you lack explosion you wouldn't be that great of an athletes​.

Honestly I could care less about his sack numbers. Ogbah and Garrett should be the ones Killing QBs. I care about pressure and TFLs
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 2:46 pm    Post subject: hmmm Reply with quote

4-3 need DLine. If he turns into a great 3rd down/depth player then this is a great pick.

that is all

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Googling more on him. A panthers beat said he compares him to Charles Johnson after watching him at the combine.

I went and looked at and combined their combine numbers and Ogunjobi and Johnson had similar Numbers yet Ogunjobi was a lot heavier. If he can develop I think he could be good for us.

I do have faith in our DL coach. he worked with a lot of studs with the Rams. So he has to know what he was doing. Also good enough that Williams was willing to bring hi. To Cleveland. Also Williams has to trust him enough that he could develop Garrett because Williams taking this gig had to know Garrett was going to be his
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buno67 wrote:

I do have faith in our DL coach. he worked with a lot of studs with the Rams. So he has to know what he was doing. Also good enough that Williams was willing to bring hi. To Cleveland. Also Williams has to trust him enough that he could develop Garrett because Williams taking this gig had to know Garrett was going to be his


Simmons was also a stud himself and played with the best de to ever put on pads.

Those young men are in good hands.
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LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
300 pound dude runs sub 5.0 forty, has a 32" vert, and that's not explosive?


Cool if he has to chase a RB 40 yards he will only be 15 yards behind hm


Is running as fast as a running back an expectation for a DT?

What's the point here?


Is running 40 yards an expectation for a DT?

What's his point here?


Ditch was right, you just want to argue.


Without even throwing a sack number out there, it's pretty apparent you guys don't even believe some of the crap that comes out of your mouths.
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What are you even arguing Ether?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ether wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
300 pound dude runs sub 5.0 forty, has a 32" vert, and that's not explosive?


Cool if he has to chase a RB 40 yards he will only be 15 yards behind hm


Is running as fast as a running back an expectation for a DT?

What's the point here?


Is running 40 yards an expectation for a DT?

What's his point here?


Ditch was right, you just want to argue.


Without even throwing a sack number out there, it's pretty apparent you guys don't even believe some of the crap that comes out of your mouths.


You're going in ditchdigger's Larry Ogunjobi victory lap thread.
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I think the Rams crossover is real, and maybe even the NFCW overall, which compares the closest to the AFCN.

One comparison, Peppers reminds me of Joyner-Barron hybrid or Mathieu-Deone. I say hybrid because he has the size and tackling ability of those safeties but the agility and explosion of Joyner/Tyrann.

Howard Wilson to Johnson. A lot of differences there but a in general terms length and ball skills.

Myles-Quinn

Larry and Donald. Now obviously no one is going to come close to Donald but the body types look very similar. Carries his weight in his legs not his belly. Ogunjobi is also quick with power. Good hand usage. I think he'd be even more impressive if he sheds a little and is in great condition.

If Brantley does clear through then the DL will have excellent depth. You could have him and Larry at the same time but I'd expect to see Ogbah or Myles inside pretty often w/Nassib on the edge.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ether wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
300 pound dude runs sub 5.0 forty, has a 32" vert, and that's not explosive?


Cool if he has to chase a RB 40 yards he will only be 15 yards behind hm


Is running as fast as a running back an expectation for a DT?

What's the point here?


Is running 40 yards an expectation for a DT?

What's his point here?


Ditch was right, you just want to argue.


Without even throwing a sack number out there, it's pretty apparent you guys don't even believe some of the crap that comes out of your mouths.


1. No one said he was going to be great, we said he's an explosive athlete. Plenty of explosive athletes have failed to be great football players.

2. None of this ever came out of my mouth, I typed it with my fingers.
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LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
Ether wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
300 pound dude runs sub 5.0 forty, has a 32" vert, and that's not explosive?


Cool if he has to chase a RB 40 yards he will only be 15 yards behind hm


Is running as fast as a running back an expectation for a DT?

What's the point here?


Is running 40 yards an expectation for a DT?

What's his point here?


Ditch was right, you just want to argue.


Without even throwing a sack number out there, it's pretty apparent you guys don't even believe some of the crap that comes out of your mouths.


1. No one said he was going to be great, we said he's an explosive athlete. Plenty of explosive athletes have failed to be great football players.

2. None of this ever came out of my mouth, I typed it with my fingers.


Basically every football player is an explosive athlete

I said I didnt see him making an immediate impact on our pass rush. Next thing I know you guys are strawmanning talking about 40 yard times and freaking nuts lower body explosion.

I bring it back to my original point, you guys continue this strawman for whatever reason (reason probably being you get super hyped about our new prospect. Which I respect, but nobody here actually seems interested in proving me wrong).

But you know what? My bad for letting this to on for pages. Should of been more mature and let it go a minute ago.
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Larry Ogunjobi is the all time leader from his program in tackles, sacks, hurries and tackles for a loss. His defensive line coach was draft superstar Aaron Curry.

Disclaimer: Ogunjobi had the first tackle for a loss for the Charlotte 49ers.
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