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raidr4life
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| raiderrocker18 wrote: | | DirtyHarry wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | "Fans" on social media make me want to rip my eyes out |
homers or what I know I was reading we have earl Thomas and kam chancellor apparently |
we have guys with similar measurables, but obi is way raw. |
He's not way raw. |
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Gaetano
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I'm not too familiar with Obi at all, but based on draft capsules and all, I see a guy who's a good 'downhill tackler'. And he's 6'4, 220+.
Is there a chance we try this guy as a ILB?? |
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raidr4life
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| BayRaider wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | raiderrocker18 wrote: | | DirtyHarry wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | "Fans" on social media make me want to rip my eyes out |
homers or what I know I was reading we have earl Thomas and kam chancellor apparently |
we have guys with similar measurables, but obi is way raw. |
I don't think he's as raw as people make him out to be |
I think it's the opposite some people here think he's not raw because he was a four year starter. He is pretty raw for the NFL. I have a lot more belief in Obi than I ever did Watson or Ward though. |
What is that supposed to mean? Played DB in High school and 48 starts at S at Uconn |
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BayRaider
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| raidr4life wrote: | | BayRaider wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | raiderrocker18 wrote: | | DirtyHarry wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | "Fans" on social media make me want to rip my eyes out |
homers or what I know I was reading we have earl Thomas and kam chancellor apparently |
we have guys with similar measurables, but obi is way raw. |
I don't think he's as raw as people make him out to be |
I think it's the opposite some people here think he's not raw because he was a four year starter. He is pretty raw for the NFL. I have a lot more belief in Obi than I ever did Watson or Ward though. |
What is that supposed to mean? Played DB in High school and 48 starts at S at Uconn |
Starts automatically make you NFL ready? His skills are pretty green for the NFL level. He was drafted for size and speed.
Love the pick though. |
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Silver&Black88
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Gaetano
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Well yeah Vic, I'd say passing on him in the 1st 2 rounds confirmed that before the tweet  |
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raidr4life
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| BayRaider wrote: | | raidr4life wrote: | | BayRaider wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | raiderrocker18 wrote: | | DirtyHarry wrote: | | OakRaiders3828 wrote: | | "Fans" on social media make me want to rip my eyes out |
homers or what I know I was reading we have earl Thomas and kam chancellor apparently |
we have guys with similar measurables, but obi is way raw. |
I don't think he's as raw as people make him out to be |
I think it's the opposite some people here think he's not raw because he was a four year starter. He is pretty raw for the NFL. I have a lot more belief in Obi than I ever did Watson or Ward though. |
What is that supposed to mean? Played DB in High school and 48 starts at S at Uconn |
Starts automatically make you NFL ready? His skills are pretty green for the NFL level. He was drafted for size and speed.
Love the pick though. |
Most all of these prospects aren't NFL ready. Sure he has to learn the NFL game, but playing the position his whole career is a start. Unlike Peppers for example who doesn't have a position. Imo raw is someone who hasn't played much at a position or not much experience at the game. |
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Big Rob
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| High upside at a position of need. Hopefully helps with our TE woes...hated him in the first as I thought there would be much better value available..like the pick a lot more in the 2nd...was hoping to go DB in the first two rounds and we did...we also added a bunch of much needed speed to our secondary... |
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big_palooka
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Cautiously optimistic. He's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type. Soft for his size. Nothing special to his game.
IMO, you look back in 2 years, he's JAG and doesn't have the impact some other prospects might have had.
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raiderrocker18
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| big_palooka wrote: | Cautiously optimistic. He's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type. Soft for his size. Nothing special to his game.
IMO, you look back in 2 years, he's JAG and doesn't have the impact some other prospects might have had. |
in what universe is this optimistic? |
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big_palooka
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| raiderrocker18 wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | Cautiously optimistic. He's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type. Soft for his size. Nothing special to his game.
IMO, you look back in 2 years, he's JAG and doesn't have the impact some other prospects might have had. |
in what universe is this optimistic? |
In that the staff sees his role and value to the team. I just don't see anything I like. This is an Al Davis pick. Athlete playing football. Don't like how soft he is.
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Silver&Black88
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| big_palooka wrote: | | raiderrocker18 wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | Cautiously optimistic. He's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type. Soft for his size. Nothing special to his game.
IMO, you look back in 2 years, he's JAG and doesn't have the impact some other prospects might have had. |
in what universe is this optimistic? |
In that the staff sees his role and value to the team. I just don't see anything I like. This is an Al Davis pick. Athlete playing football. Don't like how soft he is. |
| big_palooka wrote: | | TiberiusRising wrote: | | raidr4life wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-OLru9XgAU2-EZ.png:large
So i guess Obi isn't just an athlete then. |
Yup, not a big hitter but a solid tackler against the run. |
Ya I have no issues with Obi other than his value getting over inflated. I just have other guys ahead of him at 24. I certainly like his tackling and physicality better than Cunningham at LB. |
This is how I feel. I don't mind Obi. Just don't think he's a first round talent. Round 2, I'm all for it. |
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21467196#21467196
Sorry, I had to though. |
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agarcia34
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He's a willing tackler who may not be the big hitter you expect when u look at his size but offers size and speed and the ability to cover TEs. Raiders don't need him to be a big hitter they have JK for that. He reminds me a lot of Bengals FS George Iloka, but i think OBi covers skills are better.
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raidr4life
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| Silver&Black88 wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | | raiderrocker18 wrote: | | big_palooka wrote: | Cautiously optimistic. He's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type. Soft for his size. Nothing special to his game.
IMO, you look back in 2 years, he's JAG and doesn't have the impact some other prospects might have had. |
in what universe is this optimistic? |
In that the staff sees his role and value to the team. I just don't see anything I like. This is an Al Davis pick. Athlete playing football. Don't like how soft he is. |
| big_palooka wrote: | | TiberiusRising wrote: | | raidr4life wrote: | | oakdb36 wrote: | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-OLru9XgAU2-EZ.png:large
So i guess Obi isn't just an athlete then. |
Yup, not a big hitter but a solid tackler against the run. |
Ya I have no issues with Obi other than his value getting over inflated. I just have other guys ahead of him at 24. I certainly like his tackling and physicality better than Cunningham at LB. |
This is how I feel. I don't mind Obi. Just don't think he's a first round talent. Round 2, I'm all for it. |
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21467196#21467196
Sorry, I had to though. |
Fairly common with BP |
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BayRaider
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:28 am Post subject: |
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| I really do think he's gonna play more OLB for us than Safety. |
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