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raidr4life


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raiderrocker18 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
"Fans" on social media make me want to rip my eyes out
homers or what I know I was reading we have earl Thomas and kam chancellor apparently
we have guys with similar measurables, but obi is way raw.
He's not way raw.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not too familiar with Obi at all, but based on draft capsules and all, I see a guy who's a good 'downhill tackler'. And he's 6'4, 220+.

Is there a chance we try this guy as a ILB??
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BayRaider wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
"Fans" on social media make me want to rip my eyes out
homers or what I know I was reading we have earl Thomas and kam chancellor apparently
we have guys with similar measurables, but obi is way raw.


I don't think he's as raw as people make him out to be


I think it's the opposite some people here think he's not raw because he was a four year starter. He is pretty raw for the NFL. I have a lot more belief in Obi than I ever did Watson or Ward though.
What is that supposed to mean? Played DB in High school and 48 starts at S at Uconn
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raidr4life wrote:
BayRaider wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
"Fans" on social media make me want to rip my eyes out
homers or what I know I was reading we have earl Thomas and kam chancellor apparently
we have guys with similar measurables, but obi is way raw.


I don't think he's as raw as people make him out to be


I think it's the opposite some people here think he's not raw because he was a four year starter. He is pretty raw for the NFL. I have a lot more belief in Obi than I ever did Watson or Ward though.
What is that supposed to mean? Played DB in High school and 48 starts at S at Uconn


Starts automatically make you NFL ready? His skills are pretty green for the NFL level. He was drafted for size and speed.

Love the pick though.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Raiders were never that high on Cunningham

https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/858126018996875264


Interesting
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
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Vic Tafur @VicTafur
Raiders were never that high on Cunningham

https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/858126018996875264


Interesting


Well yeah Vic, I'd say passing on him in the 1st 2 rounds confirmed that before the tweet Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BayRaider wrote:
raidr4life wrote:
BayRaider wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
DirtyHarry wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
"Fans" on social media make me want to rip my eyes out
homers or what I know I was reading we have earl Thomas and kam chancellor apparently
we have guys with similar measurables, but obi is way raw.


I don't think he's as raw as people make him out to be


I think it's the opposite some people here think he's not raw because he was a four year starter. He is pretty raw for the NFL. I have a lot more belief in Obi than I ever did Watson or Ward though.
What is that supposed to mean? Played DB in High school and 48 starts at S at Uconn


Starts automatically make you NFL ready? His skills are pretty green for the NFL level. He was drafted for size and speed.

Love the pick though.
Most all of these prospects aren't NFL ready. Sure he has to learn the NFL game, but playing the position his whole career is a start. Unlike Peppers for example who doesn't have a position. Imo raw is someone who hasn't played much at a position or not much experience at the game.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

High upside at a position of need. Hopefully helps with our TE woes...hated him in the first as I thought there would be much better value available..like the pick a lot more in the 2nd...was hoping to go DB in the first two rounds and we did...we also added a bunch of much needed speed to our secondary...
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Cautiously optimistic. He's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type. Soft for his size. Nothing special to his game.

IMO, you look back in 2 years, he's JAG and doesn't have the impact some other prospects might have had.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
Cautiously optimistic. He's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type. Soft for his size. Nothing special to his game.

IMO, you look back in 2 years, he's JAG and doesn't have the impact some other prospects might have had.
in what universe is this optimistic?
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raiderrocker18 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Cautiously optimistic. He's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type. Soft for his size. Nothing special to his game.

IMO, you look back in 2 years, he's JAG and doesn't have the impact some other prospects might have had.
in what universe is this optimistic?


In that the staff sees his role and value to the team. I just don't see anything I like. This is an Al Davis pick. Athlete playing football. Don't like how soft he is.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Cautiously optimistic. He's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type. Soft for his size. Nothing special to his game.

IMO, you look back in 2 years, he's JAG and doesn't have the impact some other prospects might have had.
in what universe is this optimistic?


In that the staff sees his role and value to the team. I just don't see anything I like. This is an Al Davis pick. Athlete playing football. Don't like how soft he is.


big_palooka wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
raidr4life wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-OLru9XgAU2-EZ.png:large

So i guess Obi isn't just an athlete then.
Yup, not a big hitter but a solid tackler against the run.
Ya I have no issues with Obi other than his value getting over inflated. I just have other guys ahead of him at 24. I certainly like his tackling and physicality better than Cunningham at LB.


This is how I feel. I don't mind Obi. Just don't think he's a first round talent. Round 2, I'm all for it.


http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21467196#21467196



Sorry, I had to though. Laughing
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He's a willing tackler who may not be the big hitter you expect when u look at his size but offers size and speed and the ability to cover TEs. Raiders don't need him to be a big hitter they have JK for that. He reminds me a lot of Bengals FS George Iloka, but i think OBi covers skills are better.
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Silver&Black88 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
raiderrocker18 wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Cautiously optimistic. He's a "looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane" type. Soft for his size. Nothing special to his game.

IMO, you look back in 2 years, he's JAG and doesn't have the impact some other prospects might have had.
in what universe is this optimistic?


In that the staff sees his role and value to the team. I just don't see anything I like. This is an Al Davis pick. Athlete playing football. Don't like how soft he is.


big_palooka wrote:
TiberiusRising wrote:
raidr4life wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-OLru9XgAU2-EZ.png:large

So i guess Obi isn't just an athlete then.
Yup, not a big hitter but a solid tackler against the run.
Ya I have no issues with Obi other than his value getting over inflated. I just have other guys ahead of him at 24. I certainly like his tackling and physicality better than Cunningham at LB.


This is how I feel. I don't mind Obi. Just don't think he's a first round talent. Round 2, I'm all for it.


http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21467196#21467196



Sorry, I had to though. Laughing
Fairly common with BP
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I really do think he's gonna play more OLB for us than Safety.
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