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NightTrainLane


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

raidr4life wrote:
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Is there a realistic shot Aldon Smith gets Reinstated before the season.? Nothing came of that incident a couple months ago. I mean it's been over a year since that was supposedly him in the Video smoking a Blount.


Guessing the answer is no. No news lately about him. Last reports were he's not following the program for NFL re-instatement. Rumor was he'd have a really good week, then more of the same for him after.

Doubt he ever plays a game for Oakland again


He must have failed a drug test. I would think we would of heard about that though. Since it would result in a separate suspension. Seems like he's getting a raw deal.Donte Stallworth killed someone by driving drunk and was only suspended a season.Ray Rice was only suspended 2 games.
How is he getting a raw deal, he was caught on tape drunk a few months ago when him and a friend hit a police car, everytime he gets close to coming back a video of him pops up of him either drunk or smoking weed.


Yup and even passed that. His reinstatement is at the discretion of the league office and the commissioner. If they deem he didn't abide by the things they set out for him to do they can just refrain from letting him back. He doesn't have to test positive for anything to show he doesn't have his stuff together.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got clarity on what has MEJ and Conley on the PUP list. MEJ has a minor hamstring issue and Conley has Shin Splints. Both should be fine soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightTrainLane wrote:
Got clarity on what has MEJ and Conley on the PUP list. MEJ has a minor hamstring issue and Conley has Shin Splints. Both should be fine soon.



Good to hear and thanks for the info. Better to rest them now so those things don't linger into the preseason or god forbid the actual slate of 16.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightTrainLane wrote:
raidr4life wrote:
Mr.Bob Dobalina wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Mr.Bob Dobalina wrote:
Is there a realistic shot Aldon Smith gets Reinstated before the season.? Nothing came of that incident a couple months ago. I mean it's been over a year since that was supposedly him in the Video smoking a Blount.


Guessing the answer is no. No news lately about him. Last reports were he's not following the program for NFL re-instatement. Rumor was he'd have a really good week, then more of the same for him after.

Doubt he ever plays a game for Oakland again


He must have failed a drug test. I would think we would of heard about that though. Since it would result in a separate suspension. Seems like he's getting a raw deal.Donte Stallworth killed someone by driving drunk and was only suspended a season.Ray Rice was only suspended 2 games.
How is he getting a raw deal, he was caught on tape drunk a few months ago when him and a friend hit a police car, everytime he gets close to coming back a video of him pops up of him either drunk or smoking weed.


Yup and even passed that. His reinstatement is at the discretion of the league office and the commissioner. If they deem he didn't abide by the things they set out for him to do they can just refrain from letting him back. He doesn't have to test positive for anything to show he doesn't have his stuff together.

Raw deal ? How many chances has he gotten again ?
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Of all the tweets coming out from Camp I found this one the most interesting.

Ted Nguyen‏Verified account @RaidersAnalysis

Sean Smith playing a little slot corner. Maybe getting ready for Conley to follow speed match up anywhere.
12:54 PM - 3 Aug 2017

It may show that we are gonna be more flexible about where our dbs lineup.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raiders added another edge/de pass rusher 6'5 280.

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

One day after being in an accident that totaled his car, former Redskins LB Rufus Johnson reached agreement with Raiders, per @seanstellato.
3:29 PM - 3 Aug 2017
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Raiders also added Ik Enemkpali

https://www.google.com/amp/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/03/raiders-sign-defensive-end-ik-enemkpali/amp/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems pretty clear they didn't like the depth they had on the edge getting after the QB. We've added IK, Johnson and Sheldon within the last week.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NightTrainLane wrote:
Seems pretty clear they didn't like the depth they had on the edge getting after the QB. We've added IK, Johnson and Sheldon within the last week.


I think they're all pretty much long shots....... hopefully we'll be surprised with one of these guys (you never know) but at the moment I can't see them unseating Calhoun or Cowser at backup edge rusher or competing for playing time but maybe they can hang around and provide some STs or something - we seem to have an awful lot of LBs in camp............around 14 by my count
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These new guys are gonna battling for ST role.


Here is a Defensive roster guess:

EDGE: Mack, Irvin, Calhoun, Cowser (4)

DL: Edwards, Latham, Jelly, Ward, Vanderdoes, Hester, Autry (7)

LB: Lee, James, Adams, Jenkins (4)

CB: Smith, Amerson, Conley, Carrie, McDonald (5)

S: Joseph, Nelson, Melifonwu, Luani (4)

This is 24 player. I would expect 1 or 2 more players getting on the final 53 man roster on the defensive side just for ST role.
Durden, McGill, Bean, Casher, Jackson, Sheldon, Enemkpali, Johnson, Harris, Lewis, Woodson-Luster, Chioffi, Jefferson, Heeney could all battle for those spots...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolni wrote:
These new guys are gonna battling for ST role.


Here is a Defensive roster guess:

EDGE: Mack, Irvin, Calhoun, Cowser (4)

DL: Edwards, Latham, Jelly, Ward, Vanderdoes, Hester, Autry (7)

LB: Lee, James, Adams, Jenkins (4)

CB: Smith, Amerson, Conley, Carrie, McDonald (5)

S: Joseph, Nelson, Melifonwu, Luani (4)

This is 24 player. I would expect 1 or 2 more players getting on the final 53 man roster on the defensive side just for ST role.
Durden, McGill, Bean, Casher, Jackson, Sheldon, Enemkpali, Johnson, Harris, Lewis, Woodson-Luster, Chioffi, Jefferson, Heeney could all battle for those spots...


How about Borders? Not only is he running with the first team and standing out, even Carr has said he's impressed with him
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Darbsk wrote:
NightTrainLane wrote:
Seems pretty clear they didn't like the depth they had on the edge getting after the QB. We've added IK, Johnson and Sheldon within the last week.


I think they're all pretty much long shots....... hopefully we'll be surprised with one of these guys (you never know) but at the moment I can't see them unseating Calhoun or Cowser at backup edge rusher or competing for playing time but maybe they can hang around and provide some STs or something - we seem to have an awful lot of LBs in camp............around 14 by my count


I agree they are long shots IF everyone stays healthy and active. But having camp bodies, competition and young guys you can stash is just as important and that is what we lacked and why these guys were signed IMO.
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OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Rolni wrote:
These new guys are gonna battling for ST role.


Here is a Defensive roster guess:

EDGE: Mack, Irvin, Calhoun, Cowser (4)

DL: Edwards, Latham, Jelly, Ward, Vanderdoes, Hester, Autry (7)

LB: Lee, James, Adams, Jenkins (4)

CB: Smith, Amerson, Conley, Carrie, McDonald (5)

S: Joseph, Nelson, Melifonwu, Luani (4)

This is 24 player. I would expect 1 or 2 more players getting on the final 53 man roster on the defensive side just for ST role.
Durden, McGill, Bean, Casher, Jackson, Sheldon, Enemkpali, Johnson, Harris, Lewis, Woodson-Luster, Chioffi, Jefferson, Heeney could all battle for those spots...


How about Borders? Not only is he running with the first team and standing out, even Carr has said he's impressed with him


Yeah from reports, Borders and Hamilton are right there with McDonald. Who know what the coaches are seeing tho.
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NightTrainLane wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Rolni wrote:
These new guys are gonna battling for ST role.


Here is a Defensive roster guess:

EDGE: Mack, Irvin, Calhoun, Cowser (4)

DL: Edwards, Latham, Jelly, Ward, Vanderdoes, Hester, Autry (7)

LB: Lee, James, Adams, Jenkins (4)

CB: Smith, Amerson, Conley, Carrie, McDonald (5)

S: Joseph, Nelson, Melifonwu, Luani (4)

This is 24 player. I would expect 1 or 2 more players getting on the final 53 man roster on the defensive side just for ST role.
Durden, McGill, Bean, Casher, Jackson, Sheldon, Enemkpali, Johnson, Harris, Lewis, Woodson-Luster, Chioffi, Jefferson, Heeney could all battle for those spots...


How about Borders? Not only is he running with the first team and standing out, even Carr has said he's impressed with him


Yeah from reports, Borders and Hamilton are right there with McDonald. Who know what the coaches are seeing tho.


Yah..who knows that they're seeing..might be like how Hayden was playing over Carrie last year....

I still have hopes for Dexter McDonald to develop, I think he really stood out and improved his coverage last year while looking very good in preseason. He's someone I will have a close eye on this year.
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Blurb today from Gutierrez' observations:

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Surprise of camp today: TJ Carrie replacing Sean Smith at first-team cornerback. And even when the Raiders went into a nickel defense, Carrie remained on the outside and undrafted rookie Breon Borders came into the slot, with Smith, who received a 4-year, $38 million contract last season, remaining an observer.
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