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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WizardHawk wrote:
Apparently Dallas was eyeing Kaaya as their first pick in rd 7. That one have been a nice get.


I don't remember where I said it, but I have been saying it for a while, In wanted Dallas to take another shot a getting a late rd QB. Kaaya would have been perfect pick. Would have loved trading all our 7th rders for him.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Amen Amachigh‏ @1Ameezy
Jerry said Rico was the reason why they didn't draft any TEs... they're expecting big things from him


Dallas seems to have a lot of faith in this kid. Hope it pays off, because they aren't going to see many opportunities like the ones this draft had at TE.



Also not sure if anyone posted this but is worth posting again...

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FRISCO, Texas -- The Dallas Cowboys were able to select five of the top 68 players on their draft board, according to executive vice president Stephen Jones.


Taco, Awuzie, Lewis, Switzer, and Woods. Amazing.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt79511 wrote:
My guess is they open OTAs with...

LCB- Brown
RCB- Scandrick
Slot- Lewis
FS- Jones
SS- Heath

But a LOT can change between now and Week 1. Awuzie and Woods offer so much playmaking and versatility, I'd be surprised to not see one or both of them in dime packages. And I don't think they guaranteed Nolan Carroll $4M to sit on the bench or get cut, although it's possible that White beats him out and they don't wanna carry 6 CBs

We're gonna see a ton of different looks this year


The ability to interchange multiple DBs and give different looks could be huge.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Carroll get cut or Scandrick traded. Hard to believe we drafted Awuzie to only see limited snaps in the Dime package.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CAPJ wrote:
matt79511 wrote:
My guess is they open OTAs with...

LCB- Brown
RCB- Scandrick
Slot- Lewis
FS- Jones
SS- Heath

But a LOT can change between now and Week 1. Awuzie and Woods offer so much playmaking and versatility, I'd be surprised to not see one or both of them in dime packages. And I don't think they guaranteed Nolan Carroll $4M to sit on the bench or get cut, although it's possible that White beats him out and they don't wanna carry 6 CBs

We're gonna see a ton of different looks this year


The ability to interchange multiple DBs and give different looks could be huge.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Carroll get cut or Scandrick traded. Hard to believe we drafted Awuzie to only see limited snaps in the Dime package.


Yeah I didn't mean to suggest that Awuzie would just be a backup who hardly plays, he's just so versatile I didn't even know what to do with him. Schematically, I think we'll use him similarly to how Green Bay used Micah Hyde.

Honestly, I probably shouldn't have even given Lewis the starting slot nod, it should probably go to Scandrick with Carroll on the outside. I doubt they give anything to a rookie without letting him prove it in camp and preseason. But make no mistake, Awuzie and Lewis will both see the field plenty this year.

FWIW, if the Giants play a base 3-wide set with Engram at TE, which seems to be the plan, I think we would play more than a fair amount of dime to counter that.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we sure that McClay and Plan are not one in the same? BPA, no secondary in the first round, Dline in the first round, and Michigan guys to boot?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SweetFancyMoses wrote:
Are we sure that McClay and Plan are not one in the same? BPA, no secondary in the first round, Dline in the first round, and Michigan guys to boot?


I've met McClay, he is way too nice to be Plan.
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What do you guys think our biggest needs will be in next years draft?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you guys think our biggest needs will be in next years draft?


Assuming no bust:

LB, RT, TE

Everyone else is a young pup.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matts4313 wrote:
Runaway Jim wrote:
What do you guys think our biggest needs will be in next years draft?


Assuming no bust:

LB, RT, TE

Everyone else is a young pup.


Another thing to keep in mind are our 2018 free agents:

Kellen Moore QB
Darren McFadden RB
Alfred Morris RB
Brice Butler WR
Emmett Cleary OT
Byron Bell OT
Jonathan Cooper G
Joe Looney G
Stephen Paea DE
DeMarcus Lawrence DE
Kyle Wilber OLB
Anthony Hitchens LB
Leon McFadden CB
Chris Jones P
L.P. Ladouceur LS

We'll definitely need a RB (would be nice to have Darius Jackson right about now Sad ), OL depth is taking a big hit with 4 free agents, a couple of DL and LB are also set to hit free agency.

If I had to draft by round I would say

1st round: TE/SLB
2nd round: SLB/TE
3rd round: DT
4th round: OL
5th round: RB
6th round: OL
7th round: DL/OL

All those comp picks are going to be awesome next year.
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Are all of those guys UFA or are some ERFA and RFA?
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SLB is a <500 snap player. No way do the Cowboys spend a premium pick on a linebacker that isn't Sean Lee's replacement.
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Nextyearfordaboyz wrote:
SLB is a <500 snap player. No way do the Cowboys spend a premium pick on a linebacker that isn't Sean Lee's replacement.



hmmmm.. Maybe. Depends on the player. SLB play almost as much as a DE due to rotations. I could see a 2nd or 3rd round pick on one. A guy who could be the #2 MLB and the #1 Sam.
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Nextyearfordaboyz wrote:
SLB is a <500 snap player. No way do the Cowboys spend a premium pick on a linebacker that isn't Sean Lee's replacement.


You wouldn't spend a 1st on Anthony Barr, Vic Beasley or Leonard Floyd?
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DalCowboyzRule wrote:
Nextyearfordaboyz wrote:
SLB is a <500 snap player. No way do the Cowboys spend a premium pick on a linebacker that isn't Sean Lee's replacement.


You wouldn't spend a 1st on Anthony Barr, Vic Beasley or Leonard Floyd?


All would be RDEs in our scheme. Floyd specifically was nearly drafted by us for that purpose.
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DalCowboyzRule wrote:
Nextyearfordaboyz wrote:
SLB is a <500 snap player. No way do the Cowboys spend a premium pick on a linebacker that isn't Sean Lee's replacement.


You wouldn't spend a 1st on Anthony Barr, Vic Beasley or Leonard Floyd?


We play nickle like ~50%+ of the time; so the SLB position is the least utilized. Maybe that was due to our roster, but probably not. Its one of the reasons Peppers was so interesting to me - a S/LB combo.

That said, if we had a 'Barr' I would assume we would change the defensive philosophy to accommodate. I seem to remember the Bears using base much more than we do when Rod M coached there.

So yeah, Id give a 1 for a rookie 'Barr'.
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