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Nickpeloso1


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Complete disaster for Dallas. We learned our lesson from the Randy Gregory pick. Peppers won't be our pick. Kazee is a 4th round pick. MAYBE late 3rd. Marlon Mack? Is this a joke? We have 3 starting caliber RB's on our team. Absolutely no chance we pick a RB at all. We won't pick a WR/TE/QB withput picking a DE first. 100% all around F
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can live with Zay Jones though there are WR on the board I'd prefer. After him it goes downhill and is bad for the Rams.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nickpeloso1 wrote:
Complete disaster for Dallas. We learned our lesson from the Randy Gregory pick. Peppers won't be our pick. Kazee is a 4th round pick. MAYBE late 3rd. Marlon Mack? Is this a joke? We have 3 starting caliber RB's on our team. Absolutely no chance we pick a RB at all. We won't pick a WR/TE/QB withput picking a DE first. 100% all around F


I couldn't agree more. This would be an absolute train wreck! Dallas likes to draft guys that came in for visits and they had like 10 DL in for visits I think. And I think all but 2 of their 30 visits were offensive players. (JuJu and Samuel)

The 6th round pick is the only one I like. Other than that, atrocious...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

badgers0821 wrote:


Ramczyk, he graded out as the #1 pass pro last year in all of college football. Also, under his "analysis" you say he will bring skill to the run game but needs work in pass pro, it's actually the opposite. He excels is pass pro and lacks killer instinct in the run game.

Yes, his arms are similar length to Joe Thomas but he is the exception, not the rule. Plus, Thomas is one of the most technically sound LTs to ever play the position, not really a fair comparison.

The arm length argument for Lamp is overblown imo. I'm not comparing him to Thomas overall, just that 32.5 arms aren't automatic disqualifiers.

I'm just not a big fan of Ramczyk. From the film I watched I didn't like his feet but he was creating some movement in the run game. Wasn't aware of the PFF grade. I think Lamp clearly is the better OL though, whether he's inside or out.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cav_fan2 wrote:
Nickpeloso1 wrote:
Complete disaster for Dallas. We learned our lesson from the Randy Gregory pick. Peppers won't be our pick. Kazee is a 4th round pick. MAYBE late 3rd. Marlon Mack? Is this a joke? We have 3 starting caliber RB's on our team. Absolutely no chance we pick a RB at all. We won't pick a WR/TE/QB withput picking a DE first. 100% all around F


I couldn't agree more. This would be an absolute train wreck! Dallas likes to draft guys that came in for visits and they had like 10 DL in for visits I think. And I think all but 2 of their 30 visits were offensive players. (JuJu and Samuel)

The 6th round pick is the only one I like. Other than that, atrocious...


McFadden and Morris are done after this year. Kazee has had a private workout with them and he's got anywhere from a 2nd to 3rd round grade. The Peppers thing.....got a point there.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kansas City Chiefs
1. (27) Jarrad Davis |LB| Florida:
2. (5Cool Alvin Kamara*|RB| Tennessee:
3. (91) Sidney Jones |CB| Washington:
3. (104) Marcus Williams |S| Utah:
4. (132) Jordan Evans |LB| Oklahoma:

I have seen worse, but this is not good.
Davis is not awful, but Cunningham is the best ILB long term. Better a QB or CB.
Kamara is no good when Jordan Willis is available.
Jones I will accept but not Williams. If you want to go back to the secondary try Tankersly. Better yet, a DL like Qualls or value with Leggett or Godwin.
Evens is odd. Anthony Walker is a better scheme fit, but it should be a lineman, say Vanderdoes or Isidora.

This is a value drafting team that likes size as the first default. At least two of the first five picks should be OL or DL.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting for NYG.

Njoku, I 1000% agree with. But Bowser is hard to justify because thats two raw players that could be swings and misses.

I'd rather:

Njoku
Duke Riley
Nathan Peterman
Nico Suragusa
Wayne Gallaman
Avian Collins
D.J. Jones
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

onejayhawk wrote:
Kansas City Chiefs
1. (27) Jarrad Davis |LB| Florida:
2. (5Cool Alvin Kamara*|RB| Tennessee:
3. (91) Sidney Jones |CB| Washington:
3. (104) Marcus Williams |S| Utah:
4. (132) Jordan Evans |LB| Oklahoma:

I have seen worse, but this is not good.
Davis is not awful, but Cunningham is the best ILB long term. Better a QB or CB.
Kamara is no good when Jordan Willis is available.
Jones I will accept but not Williams. If you want to go back to the secondary try Tankersly. Better yet, a DL like Qualls or value with Leggett or Godwin.
Evens is odd. Anthony Walker is a better scheme fit, but it should be a lineman, say Vanderdoes or Isidora.

This is a value drafting team that likes size as the first default. At least two of the first five picks should be OL or DL.

J

Cunningham vs Davis is a great debate. I like both. But Davis is more physical and better in coverage. And his football mentality is second to none in this class.

I think you'd be in the minority among KC fans about Kamara over Willis. Is OLB a greater need than RB with Houston, Ford, Hali, Nicholas all on the roster? I think Kamara is overrated but most would argue he's a great value at the bottom of the 2nd. Willis is a bit of a one trick pony. Didn't look very physical at all at senior week practices.

Evans is a sleeper. He covers like a safety but has a LB's frame. I had Brantley in the 2nd for them until that incident. But I looked again at Nunez-Roches. He's up for a break out. Good player imo.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FourThreeMafia wrote:
Laughable first round pick for the Steelers.

2nd round is amazing (albeit unrealistic), but it doesnt make up for the first round travesty.

Give us Humphrey, Melifonwu or White in the first round and that would be much much MUUUUUUUCHHHH better. Then again, a circumcision with a rusty, dull scalpel would be better than that first round pick.

Granted, I could be a lot lower on those three than where they'll actually go. But is Roethlisberger going to play 5 more years for the Steelers?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about something rational like Hooker at 12 and Kizer in the 3rd. I wasn't thrilled about some others but the alternates here lacked sense.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta be honest, maybe the worst Steelers mock I've seen. QB in the 1st will not happen, too many needs for them to do that and way too many offensive selections with that many defensive needs. And CB is the 2nd biggest need on the team and you didn't address that once.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would rock the world for Denver if it was like this....

1. Cam Robinson
2. Tyus Bowser (play him at WILB)
3. Sidney Jones
3. Curtis Samuel
4. Jake Butt
5. Howard Wilson
6. Kenny Golladay
7. Best 3-4OLB
7. Best TE
7. Developmental QB
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really hate the Browns draft starting with Mixon at 52.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrownLeader wrote:
onejayhawk wrote:
Kansas City Chiefs
1. (27) Jarrad Davis |LB| Florida:
2. (28) Alvin Kamara*|RB| Tennessee:
3. (91) Sidney Jones |CB| Washington:
3. (104) Marcus Williams |S| Utah:
4. (132) Jordan Evans |LB| Oklahoma:

I have seen worse, but this is not good.
Davis is not awful, but Cunningham is the best ILB long term. Better a QB or CB.
Kamara is no good when Jordan Willis is available.
Jones I will accept but not Williams. If you want to go back to the secondary try Tankersly. Better yet, a DL like Qualls or value with Leggett or Godwin.
Evens is odd. Anthony Walker is a better scheme fit, but it should be a lineman, say Vanderdoes or Isidora.

This is a value drafting team that likes size as the first default. At least two of the first five picks should be OL or DL.

J

Cunningham vs Davis is a great debate. I like both. But Davis is more physical and better in coverage. And his football mentality is second to none in this class.

I think you'd be in the minority among KC fans about Kamara over Willis. Is OLB a greater need than RB with Houston, Ford, Hali, Nicholas all on the roster? I think Kamara is overrated but most would argue he's a great value at the bottom of the 2nd. Willis is a bit of a one trick pony. Didn't look very physical at all at senior week practices.

Evans is a sleeper. He covers like a safety but has a LB's frame. I had Brantley in the 2nd for them until that incident. But I looked again at Nunez-Roches. He's up for a break out. Good player imo.

Jordan Willis is local interest. You might be surprised. He is also a three down player. Kamara is a change of pace specialist, when they already have T Hill and CJ Spiller. Hali is at the end of his career. Nicholas is a 6th round project with no career sacks.

Evans may be a sleeper, but they have lost Dontari Poe and Jaye Howard. They have starters but need depth to groom for the DL. That said, I agree about Nacho.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:17 am    Post subject: hmmm Reply with quote

For Cleveland - At #12 Lattimore, Conley, Hooker are ALL available and you have us reaching EVEN further at QB with Mahomes. I quit read there.

that is all

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