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Who would you select?
Adoree' Jackson [ DB ] UCLA
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Caleb Brantley [ DT ] Florida
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Cam Robinson [ OT ] Alabama
32%
 32%  [ 19 ]
Charles Harris [ Edge ] Missouri
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Chidobe Awuzie [ CB ] Colorado
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Dan Feeney [ OG ] Indiana
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David Njoku [ TE ] Miami (Fla.)
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Evan Engram [ TE ] Ole Miss
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Jabrill Peppers [ SS ] Michigan
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Fabian Moreau [ CB ] UCLA
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Joe Mixon [ RB ] Oklahoma
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John Ross [ WR ] Washington
5%
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Kevin King [ CB ] Washington
40%
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Malik McDowell [ DT ] Michigan State
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Obi Melifonwu [ SS ] Connecticut
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Pat Elflein [ OC ] Ohio State
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T.J. Watt [ OLB ] Wisconsin
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Takkarist McKinley [ OLB ] UCLA
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TreDavious White [ CB ] LSU
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Quincy Wilson [ CB ] Florida
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Total Votes : 59

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:57 am    Post subject: FF Annual Consensus Mock - 26 Seattle Seahawks Reply with quote

Okay, let's do this.

Rules:
Each Poll will last no longer than 24 hours (or as near as I can)
Run-offs will take place where the two top vote getters are not from the same position group, where there is no clear leader of 15% of the vote share, unless the vote leader has more than 40% of the vote share
I will post a link to the poll in each team's forum

Poll Choices
Prospects on each poll will come from the CBS prospect rankings list, but I will welcome nominations for the each poll. This is to try and prevent complaints about poll choices.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings

I will endeavour to fill all slots and do so in alphabetical order. Draft needs of teams will be considered and override the prospect rankings in certain situations.

Please contribute to the discussions within each poll and give reasons why you voted the way you did if you can. Your vote should be based on who you would pick and not a prediction of who they will select.

Draft Order:
1. Cleveland Browns: Myles Garrett [DE] Texas A&M
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=586943
2. San Francisco 49ers: Solomon Thomas [DE] Stanford
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=586983
3. Chicago Bears: Jamal Adams [SS] LSU
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587003
4. Jacksonville Jaguars: Leonard Fournette [RB] LSU
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587018
5. Tennessee Titans (From LA): Marshon Lattimore [CB] Ohio State
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587040
6. New York Jets: Malik Hooker [FS] Ohio State
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587070
7. LA Chargers: Jonathan Allen [DL] Alabama
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587080
8. Carolina Panthers: Derek Barnett [DE] Tennessee
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587113
9. Cincinnati Bengals: Reuben Foster [LB] Alabama
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587134
10. Buffalo Bills: OJ Howard [TE] Alabama
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587155
11. New Orleans Saints:Marlon Humphrey [CB] Alabama
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587197
12. Cleveland Browns: Mitch Trubisky [QB] North Carolina
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587213
13. Arizona Cardinals: Patrick Mahomes II [QB] Texas Tech
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587246
14. Philadelphia Eagles (From Minnesota):Gareon Conley [CB] Ohio State
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587269
15. Indianapolis Colts: Haason Reddick [LB] Temple
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587314
16. Baltimore Ravens: Corey Davis [WR] Western Michigan
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587338
17. Washington Redskins: Dalvin Cook [RB] Florida State
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587350
18. Tennessee Titans: Mike Williams [WR] Clemson
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587360
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Christian McCaffrey [RB] Stanford
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587381
20. Denver Broncos: Ryan Ramczyk [OT] Wisconsin
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587405
21. Detroit Lions: Taco Charlton [Edge] Michigan
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587432
22. Miami Dolphins: Forrest Lamp [OL] Western Kentucky
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587459
23. New York Giants: Garett Bolles [OT] Utah
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587485
24. Oakland Raiders: Jarrad Davis [ILB] Florida
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587506
25. Houston Texans: Deshaun Watson [QB] Clemson
http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=587523
26. Seattle Seahawks
27. Kansas City Chiefs
28. Dallas Cowboys
29. Green Bay Packers
30. Pittsburgh Steelers
31. Atlanta Falcons
32. New Orleans Saints (From New England)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off-season Transactions
March 28, 2017 Signed LBs Dewey McDonald and Terence Garvin.
March 20, 2017 Signed G Oday Aboushi.
March 17, 2017 Agreed to terms with TE Luke Willson and CB DeShawn Shead.
March 14, 2017 Agreed to terms with RB Eddie Lacy on a one-year contract. Re-signed CB Neiko Thorpe.
March 11, 2017 Signed OL Luke Joeckel.
February 9, 2017 Signed PK Blair Walsh.

Top Needs According to UPI
http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/2017/04/07/2017-NFL-Draft-Seattle-Seahawks-Top-needs-suggested-picks-current-outlook/2561491591504/

1. Cornerback: The Seahawks are still in need of additional help at cornerback after a torn ACL suffered by DeShawn Shead in the playoffs left a hole in the roster. Richard Sherman returns as Seattle's top option and Jeremy Lane can play the No. 2 role adequately. However, depth and the need for an infusion of younger talent remain issues. While Shead re-signed with Seattle on a one-year deal after being non-tendered as a restricted free agent, his injury likely makes him unavailable until close to midseason. Neiko Thorpe also re-signed on a one-year deal to give Seattle some more stability at the spot. But cornerback could be Seattle's top target in the first round of the draft.

2. Defensive tackle: Behind starters Ahtyba Rubin and Jarran Reed, Seattle is lacking sufficient depth at defensive tackle. Garrison Smith and Quinton Jefferson are both returning from knee injuries that ended their 2016 seasons. Tony McDaniel has not re-signed with the team this offseason after being a key cog in Seattle's top-ranked rush defense. While the Seahawks remain optimistic about Jefferson's potential, they could use more help to fill out their roster.

3. Wide receiver: Seattle could benefit from the addition of a receiver with size to their roster. Paul Richardson is in the last year of his rookie deal and has missed significant time with injuries in his first three seasons. Jermaine Kearse could be gone after this season as well as his contract becomes easily expendable following the season. A young, big receiving option would be a sensible addition for the short term and the future.

OL not mentioned, but you'd think reinforcements would be necessary...
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I went with McDowell because I think he fits their mould for a DT.
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Kevin King is a built to order Seahawk corner.
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reamer wrote:
Kevin King is a built to order Seahawk corner.


Yeah it was either him or Cam to me and I went Cam.

Pretty crazy to see this many really good players still on the board.
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jebrick wrote:
I went with McDowell because I think he fits their mould for a DT.
He doesn't at all. We like big run stuffers at DT and DEs that can supplement the pass rush inside.

King and White both make sense. White because of his versatility as a nickel and outside defender and King because of the obvious scheme fit. They'll probably go King but I'd prefer White

Cam doesn't make sense; we already have big tackles who can play guard. We need a true tackle. Obi and TJ Watt are the other two options worth considering imo
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I'd hate the Seahawks to pick either Cam Robinson or Malik McDowell.

Against Cam Robinson - this guy isn't an improvement over anyone in the Seahawks offensive line, would be a waste of a pick in a spot where the Seahawks could draft so many game changing DBs or pass rushers.

Against Malik McDowell - this guy just doesn't have the Seahawks mindset. Seahawks like players that will take your lunch on the break. This guy has inconsistent motor, motivation issues, and his interviews are the worst. I'd rather have Chris Wormley in the second (similar physical profile, production, no motivation concerns). And it's not the case of the Seahawks liking run stuffers, like Tatupu said, the Seahawks spent good draft capital on Jordan Hill and Quinton Jefferson, and featured Clinton McDonald on heavy snaps on the SB season. Malik McDowell is just not the guy for the Seahawks.

I could care less if these guys turn really good somewhere else. Not first round pick worthy in a value/upside/direct upgrade over what we currently have.

Now, to the draftable guys:

Big nickel/3rd safety hybrid: If the Seahawks want to play more 4-2-5, they need a safety like this. Ideally this would be a guy that has the lenght and leaping ability to cover TEs and big possession receiver, size to offer strong run support almost like an extra LB, quickness to follow shiftier, smaller receivers, is smart enough to adjust to the play development, that has a knack to blitz the passer (translate: Obi Melifonwu's body with Budda Baker/Cidobe Awuzie mind).

They need this guybadly. Lane has been a failure in this department, he plays much better on the outside. All the reason for the Bradley Mcdougald pick up, but John Schneider is not the type of guy to put all fruits in one basket.

1 - Jabril Peppers - imo, top 15 player in this draft. Dynamic athlete, playmaker, gritty, strong against the run. Short arms, though.
2 - Chidobe Awuzie - If the Seahawks want to draft a guy for this scheme, Chidobe might be the best fit. Amazing leaping ability, blitzing potential, playmaker, sticky in man coverage, good run support. Short arms, though.
3 - Adore'e Jackson - Most dynamic playmaker available, he is a threat to score whenerer he's around the ball, could be an ace KR/PR that the Seahawks need with the Lockett injury. Fierce competitor.
4 - Obi Melifonwu - Nobody has a higher upside as this guy. He moves so well and so fluidly and have a historically great leaping ability. Seahawks took a flier on Brandon Browner to play safety on 3 safety packages last season, for his ability to cover big receivers working in the slot and move TEs, and, if there's a guy that has the prototypical body type to work as a 3rd safety/big nickel/buffalo in this 4-2-5 scheme is Obi. Elite speed, quickness, size, lenght. Seahawks spent the most time in the draft process analysing this guy. If they feel he is a true competitor, I think they take him. Otherworldly potential, and would be an amazing prospect for outside CB too. The Seahawks are swing for the fences type of drafters, and OBI might just be that guy.
5 - Budda Baker - Russell Wilson of this position. Nuff said.

Outside corners. Seahawks have Shead injuried, and Jeremy Lane as starting quality outside CBs. Great options, that don't quite upgrade us as much as a quality 3rd safety/nickel corner, unless you rate Bradley McDougald really highly:

1a- Kevin King - best physical profile out of the outside corners. Good, polished tape. Looks a lot like Byron Maxwell and Richard Sherman, except for a +++++ physical profile. Does he have the killer mentality we love in Seattle?
1b - Quincy Wilson - rumours say PCJS has a 1st round draft on him. He seems like plug and play in the Seahawks. Plus physicality and bully style, Seahawks love that and miss that. Above average physical profile, lenght. Seems to have the most 'seahawky' personality.
2 - Tre'davious White - Didn't look much into him..

I think both Wilson and King (notice I flipped the name order?) would be great picks, they have in spades traits the Seahawks value. But the drop off from guys are guys like Cordrea Tankersley ain't that huge. I don't think it'd be the best pick to maximize the value of the pick.

Outside options for 26th:

EDGE: TJ Watt would be a massive upgrade over Cassius Marsh (EDGE nickel guy), and would bring long term insurance in case we lose Cliff Avril or Michael Bennett. Drafting ahead of needs is important and has ever been the case for the Seahawks. Tyus Bowser next guy up.

Receiver: I love Evan Engram, I think he could be another Mike Evans, this guy is going to be a stud. I think he fits what the Seahawks want from a receiver to a tee: run blocking support, suddeness, high catch rate, explosive play ability. Could be available in a trade up envolving our 2nd round pick.

Conclusion: if the draft falls this way, the Seahawks have a fabulous trade down spot. There are so many great options that make sense from the Seahawks standpoint that would be criminal not to vouch on the idea of trading down, gather another pick and still have a great guy. Then use the added draft capital to move up in the second aggressively to catch another great prospect. It's kind of urealistic, and I think Seahawks should be ecstatic if there's such a bold run on QB, OL and WR.

Gun to my head: maximize the value of the pick, pick the best player available that represents a huge direct upgrade over what we have on the roster. And this would be Jabrill Peppers.

But if there's any way to get into Obi Melifonwu's head and see what he's made of before the draft, and if it's seahawky, I'd take the dude. What a monster. Every coach should be excited to coach this guy up, and which aren't: have no bussiness in football.


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I’d take King here and not think too much about it. 6’3 corners that play in state and test in the top 1 percentile in SPARQ – I mean, it looks almost too good on paper.

In reality, it still wouldn’t surprise me at all to see them take Melifonwu here if he was available and asked him to play some corner. He’s got the athletic traits to do it and they’re supposedly showing a lot of interest.
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goldfishwars wrote:
I’d take King here and not think too much about it. 6’3 corners that play in state and test in the top 1 percentile in SPARQ – I mean, it looks almost too good on paper.

In reality, it still wouldn’t surprise me at all to see them take Melifonwu here if he was available and asked him to play some corner. He’s got the athletic traits to do it and they’re supposedly showing a lot of interest.


Agreed. Built to order Seahawks corner as one said.

Makes Sherman more expendable, too.
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Wow what brainless morons voted Cam?



Oh wait, I did. When you're starting Luke Joeckel and he isn't even your biggest liability.. you've got some problems.

And what's the dropoff between King and a corner they can get in the 2nd? Almost none. Basically just losing the sexier name.
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Cam Robinson
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bananabucket wrote:
Wow what brainless morons voted Cam?



Oh wait, I did. When you're starting Luke Joeckel and he isn't even your biggest liability.. you've got some problems.

And what's the dropoff between King and a corner they can get in the 2nd? Almost none. Basically just losing the sexier name.
Maybe trying actually reading posts of Seattle fans before "responding"
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I voted Brantley. I'm really high on him as a pass rushing DT.
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Tatupu_64 wrote:
bananabucket wrote:
Wow what brainless morons voted Cam?



Oh wait, I did. When you're starting Luke Joeckel and he isn't even your biggest liability.. you've got some problems.

And what's the dropoff between King and a corner they can get in the 2nd? Almost none. Basically just losing the sexier name.
Maybe trying actually reading posts of Seattle fans before "responding"


I went with Robinson because I feel he can be a very good RT or OG. I think he would be an upgrade over most of the Seattle OL. I dont think Seattle will go OL because that really isnt their MO early, but I think Wilson deserves some franchise OL to keep him from having to escape the pocket so often. My guess is Seattle will take someone no one would guess would go at 26. Somebody with a high SPARQ rating.
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daineraider wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
bananabucket wrote:
Wow what brainless morons voted Cam?



Oh wait, I did. When you're starting Luke Joeckel and he isn't even your biggest liability.. you've got some problems.

And what's the dropoff between King and a corner they can get in the 2nd? Almost none. Basically just losing the sexier name.
Maybe trying actually reading posts of Seattle fans before "responding"


I went with Robinson because I feel he can be a very good RT or OG. I think he would be an upgrade over most of the Seattle OL. I dont think Seattle will go OL because that really isnt their MO early, but I think Wilson deserves some franchise OL to keep him from having to escape the pocket so often. My guess is Seattle will take someone no one would guess would go at 26. Somebody with a high SPARQ rating.
That's fine, but I am responding to someone talking about Joeckel. Joeckel will either be playing LT or LG, I don't see Cam playing either of those

Guard is much less of a concern than Tackle, specifically LT. Cam doesn't help us there
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