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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:32 am    Post subject: College Football Prospects and Mock Draft Discussion v.6 Reply with quote

I started one!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: College Football Prospects and Mock Draft Discussion v.6 Reply with quote

NudeTayne wrote:
I started one!


Starting a thread is no easy feat! Wink


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Continuing the discussion from the previous thread, SPARQ scores are compared against other players at that position, not overall.

Kindred would only be compared to defensive backs (60th percentile).
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone explain exactly how SPARQ works? Are we the only team that utilizes it?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McBrownie wrote:
Can someone explain exactly how SPARQ works? Are we the only team that utilizes it?


Seattle is a big believer in utilizing SPARQ scores.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McBrownie wrote:
Can someone explain exactly how SPARQ works? Are we the only team that utilizes it?


Some info...

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
McBrownie wrote:
Can someone explain exactly how SPARQ works? Are we the only team that utilizes it?


Some info...

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/


The three players that really stood out to me with such high SPARQ scores that we could certainly look into are the following.

Marcus Williams - FS, Utah - SPARQ 92.5%
Ranked 50 overall and 6th best safety by PFF
We all know our need for good safeties

Zay Jones- WR, Eastern Carolina - SPARQ 94.1%
Ranked 54th overall and 5th best WR by PFF
Would compliment Corey Coleman style well

Chris Wormley - DT, Michigan - SPARQ 93.9%
NR By PFF but he is rated as a DE not DT
At 6'5" and 300 LBS he can play both pass rushing DT and Edge rusher. Would be a really good pick for a later round (3-4) 3-Tech
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBrownsman wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
McBrownie wrote:
Can someone explain exactly how SPARQ works? Are we the only team that utilizes it?


Some info...

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/


The three players that really stood out to me with such high SPARQ scores that we could certainly look into are the following.

Marcus Williams - FS, Utah - SPARQ 92.5%
Ranked 50 overall and 6th best safety by PFF
We all know our need for good safeties

Zay Jones- WR, Eastern Carolina - SPARQ 94.1%
Ranked 54th overall and 5th best WR by PFF
Would compliment Corey Coleman style well

Chris Wormley - DT, Michigan - SPARQ 93.9%
NR By PFF but he is rated as a DE not DT
At 6'5" and 300 LBS he can play both pass rushing DT and Edge rusher. Would be a really good pick for a later round (3-4) 3-Tech


I like them all.

If we draft Wormley, I am calling him Shrek.
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ditchdigger wrote:
CBrownsman wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
McBrownie wrote:
Can someone explain exactly how SPARQ works? Are we the only team that utilizes it?


Some info...

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/


The three players that really stood out to me with such high SPARQ scores that we could certainly look into are the following.

Marcus Williams - FS, Utah - SPARQ 92.5%
Ranked 50 overall and 6th best safety by PFF
We all know our need for good safeties

Zay Jones- WR, Eastern Carolina - SPARQ 94.1%
Ranked 54th overall and 5th best WR by PFF
Would compliment Corey Coleman style well

Chris Wormley - DT, Michigan - SPARQ 93.9%
NR By PFF but he is rated as a DE not DT
At 6'5" and 300 LBS he can play both pass rushing DT and Edge rusher. Would be a really good pick for a later round (3-4) 3-Tech


I like them all.

If we draft Wormley, I am calling him Shrek.


I like Wormley a lot! Hes incredibly versatile, he played all over Michigan's line. Has a similar build to Desmond Bryant
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CBrownsman wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
CBrownsman wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
McBrownie wrote:
Can someone explain exactly how SPARQ works? Are we the only team that utilizes it?


Some info...

https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/


The three players that really stood out to me with such high SPARQ scores that we could certainly look into are the following.

Marcus Williams - FS, Utah - SPARQ 92.5%
Ranked 50 overall and 6th best safety by PFF
We all know our need for good safeties

Zay Jones- WR, Eastern Carolina - SPARQ 94.1%
Ranked 54th overall and 5th best WR by PFF
Would compliment Corey Coleman style well

Chris Wormley - DT, Michigan - SPARQ 93.9%
NR By PFF but he is rated as a DE not DT
At 6'5" and 300 LBS he can play both pass rushing DT and Edge rusher. Would be a really good pick for a later round (3-4) 3-Tech


I like them all.

If we draft Wormley, I am calling him Shrek.


I like Wormley a lot! Hes incredibly versatile, he played all over Michigan's line. Has a similar build to Desmond Bryant


He is just framed bigger than NFL players typically are, and that is going to be a problem for interior linemen, even if they are able to get their hands on him. I could see him being the pick at 52 or 65.
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Dane Bruglar at BrownsWire Mock Draft

1. Myles Garrett DE
12. OJ Howard TE
33. Tradavius White CB
52. Malik McDowell DT

Oh hell ya to that !!!! I would love for that draft.
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brownie man wrote:
NudeTayne wrote:
candyman93 wrote:
Kinda just summarizes what we all know about SPARQ being an influence on how they draft:



As an FYI, they have updated to accommodate pro days. Jason Thompson of Utah must be a deity. He had a score of 99.7%.


Besides Kevin Hogan being a QB, I wonder now what made the other players such as Derrick Kindred of interest to Sashi & Co. since it appears that the majority of players we selected were very high on the SPARQ rating. A 60 score on the SPARQ seems insanely slow for a secondary player. Hmm.


Remember his shoulder was messed up so I don't think he ever got to prepare 100% for th testing. I think his shoulder was seperated if I remember right


Kindred played his entire Sr. year with a broken collar bone.....that my friends is toughness epitomized!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McBrownie wrote:
Can someone explain exactly how SPARQ works? Are we the only team that utilizes it?


Sparq is essentially a way of measuring OVERALL athleticism instead of only straight line speed (the 40). So it takes every single combine drill that a position does (40, 10 yard split, broad jump, high jump, three cone, short shuttle, etc.) as well as their size (it's more impressive for a 240 pound RB to run a 4.5 than a 180 pound RB to do the same) and (I believe) weights them according to how predictive they've been in the past for the position. Then all those numbers get pushed into an overall score that gives you a GENERAL idea of how athletic they are compared to other, current NFL players.

So a Sparq score of 97% means that you have tested as a better athlete than 96.9% of NFL players AT YOUR POSITION. So a safety who scores a 50% is an average, NFL athlete for the safety position.

MWil23 wrote:
McBrownie wrote:
Can someone explain exactly how SPARQ works? Are we the only team that utilizes it?


Seattle is a big believer in utilizing SPARQ scores.


There were actually a few stories last year about how most of the playoff teams seemed to have heavily invested in high athleticism (Sparq) guys in the draft including Seattle, Pitt, KC, and NE.

candyman93 wrote:
Kinda just summarizes what we all know about SPARQ being an influence on how they draft:



Well, that's part of the story. But it intentionally leaves out a lot of guys (Nassib for instance) who don't fit the profile. It seemed like they went MOSTLY for high Sparq type guys, and mixed it with guys who didn't have awesome athletic numbers but performed great in major conferences.
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freakygeniuskid wrote:

Well, that's part of the story. But it intentionally leaves out a lot of guys (Nassib for instance) who don't fit the profile. It seemed like they went MOSTLY for high Sparq type guys, and mixed it with guys who didn't have awesome athletic numbers but performed great in major conferences.


Led the NCAA DI in sacks last year.....

Jordan Payton: UCLA's all time leading WR...

Hollywood Higgins: Led nation in receiving yards (1,750) and receiving touchdowns (17) in 2014....should have won the Belinikof that year.

Scooby Wright: Chuck Bednerick award winner (NCAA DPOY)

First waiver signing: Tyrone Holmes...Lead NCCA DII in sacks....

Joe Schobert: Big 10 Linebacker of the year and the Jack Lambert Trophy (NCAA D1 Linebacker of the Year)

I liked our draft class personally.....(only thing that I didnt like was when we could have grabbed Andrew Billings instead of Ricardo Louis in the 4th......Cinncy took him and I feel that is going to Haunt us for many years to come...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaWg_LB. wrote:
freakygeniuskid wrote:

Well, that's part of the story. But it intentionally leaves out a lot of guys (Nassib for instance) who don't fit the profile. It seemed like they went MOSTLY for high Sparq type guys, and mixed it with guys who didn't have awesome athletic numbers but performed great in major conferences.


Led the NCAA DI in sacks last year.....

Jordan Payton: UCLA's all time leading WR...

Hollywood Higgins: Led nation in receiving yards (1,750) and receiving touchdowns (17) in 2014....should have won the Belinikof that year.

Scooby Wright: Chuck Bednerick award winner (NCAA DPOY)

First waiver signing: Tyrone Holmes...Lead NCCA DII in sacks....

Joe Schobert: Big 10 Linebacker of the year and the Jack Lambert Trophy (NCAA D1 Linebacker of the Year)

I liked our draft class personally.....(only thing that I didnt like was when we could have grabbed Andrew Billings instead of Ricardo Louis in the 4th......Cinncy took him and I feel that is going to Haunt us for many years to come...


I liked it too.

Lots of athletic guys who produced at a high level.

I think that's a winning formula.
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