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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the signing of Keenum:

Taylor Heinicke‏ @Taylor_Heinicke
Easyyyyyy


Taylor Heinicke‏ @Taylor_Heinicke
Woah! Quit assuming ppl!



Laughing I'm sure he is being heckled on twitter already about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like it. Cheaper and better than Shaun Hill. Nice pick up.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I smell a QB controversy.

For real, I think that means good bye Heinike. Always viewed him as Norvs project so wasn't expecting him to stick around too long.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taylor Heinicke‏ has promised not to kick any doors.
Vikings couldn't take his word
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does this signing mean the end of Heinicke? This team has carried 3 quarterbacks for as long as I can remember, and we know that Bridgewater isn't in the discussion for the start of the 2017 season.

Keenum is a decent backup, and his contract is extremely non-commital. There's room on the roster both both Keenum and Heinicke. Not to mention, this is only going to be Heinicke's 3rd year, and he just turned 24. He still falls into that developmental QB role.

All this signing does is create competition for who's the #2.

1. Bradford
2. Keenum
3. Heinicke

PUP: Bridgewater
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SemperFeist wrote:
Why does this signing mean the end of Heinicke? This team has carried 3 quarterbacks for as long as I can remember, and we know that Bridgewater isn't in the discussion for the start of the 2017 season.

They didn't at the start of last season
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The Vikings still don't know about Bridgewater (it's not just a quote when Zimmer says that). So they had to bring in a veteran backup. Heinicke has yet to even take a regular season snap, so going with two QBs or Heinicke and a rookie draft pick would not be an attractive option.

I'm guessing that, like last year, the Vikings would just as soon Heinicke win the #2 job over the journeyman veteran and prove to be that one-in-whatever UDFA worth keeping in a backup roll.

This signing, though, makes it highly doubtful that the Vikings will be drafting a QB in anything other than the later rounds as a development project.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colorado Vike wrote:
The Vikings still don't know about Bridgewater (it's not just a quote when Zimmer says that). So they had to bring in a veteran backup. Heinicke has yet to even take a regular season snap, so going with two QBs or Heinicke and a rookie draft pick would not be an attractive option.

I'm guessing that, like last year, the Vikings would just as soon Heinicke win the #2 job over the journeyman veteran and prove to be that one-in-whatever UDFA worth keeping in a backup roll.

This signing, though, makes it highly doubtful that the Vikings will be drafting a QB in anything other than the later rounds as a development project.


Uncertainties: Bridgewater, Heinicke.
Have experience stats info: Keenum
Starter: Bradford

There are now 3 QBs healthy enough to participate in pre-season. Of course, an undrafted QB may be signed to compete with Heinicke.

I'm not sure if the timing of this signing tells us anything about TBs' rehab progress. But Spielman can use late round draft picks on ST players, or to trade up an earlier round pick, rather than draft another developmental QB.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We won't be drafting a QB. We will sign a UDFA to have a 4th arm to compete with Heinicke. I think we carry 3 QBs: Bradford, Keenum and Heinicke. Teddy goes on PUP and rehabs and the UDFA ends up on the PS.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



So does this mean an improvement over Hill?
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Career NFL statistics as of 2016

Passing attempts: 777
Passing completions: 454
Percentage: 58.4
TD–Int: 24–20
Passing yards: 5,224
Passer rating: 78.4
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on the contract details, he be cut at the end of the preseason if Heinicke shows more or if he really struggles.
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byuvike88 wrote:
Depending on the contract details, he be cut at the end of the preseason if Heinicke shows more or if he really struggles.

That's hard to imagine. I can't see the Vikings going into the season without a veteran backup to be called on, if needed. Even if Heinicke wins the #2 job, he's completely untested. They could need him, he could come in and crash and burn, then they'd have no other option left beyond whoever they have as the #3 or on the PS. I expect that guy would be something like a 7th round pick or a UDFA signing.
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gopherwrestler wrote:


So does this mean an improvement over Hill?


I feel bad for Kenny Britt. No receiver deserves that level of ineptitude at QB for their entire careers.
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gopherwrestler wrote:


So does this mean an improvement over Hill?


The stat of 11.9 doesn't match the values for his career...
i.e. 777 attempts, 5,224 yds, 24 TDs, 20 INTs.

5224 /777 = 6.7 raw YPA

24 TDs x 20 = 480
20 INTs x 45 = 900

480 - 900 = -420 implies a reduction from the 6.7 YPA stat, to 6.2 adjusted YPA.

Something is missing from the table you presented.

The graph shows '85 TRGS' alongside Case Keenum's entry atop the list.
So, this may be some subset of stats in specific situations; i.e. 85 of such situations in Keenum's career.

So, what does it mean? (what is 'TRGS')
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