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BABYLON 5


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I been really in my feelings about this since monday i live in New Jersey and it still hurts.Been a Raiders fan since 88' I'm about to turn 40 soon and the Raiders is all i know,But as long they don't change name I'm gonna keep supporting the Raiders Nation I'm a Raiders for life


Why would it hurt if you're in NJ? And why would it hurt if you've been a fan since '88 and they moved in '95 to Oakland?
Regardless if I do live in Jersey they Raiders belongs in California LA/Oak Tradition should not be touch so that's why.I don't get your question, Its Cowboys fans around the world don't you think they will be mad is hell if they move out of Dallas.The Raiders is full of history certain teams you just don't move,just like I said since 88 you probably was just born so you wouldn't understand


holy assumptions Laughing

yes, I do think Cowboys fans outside of Dallas might be upset. That's slightly different though, because they've ALWAYS been the Dallas Cowboys. But honestly, I don't think they'd be "deep in their feelings" over it because they aren't from Dallas. They'd be like "man, this is weird" and that's probably it.

But to say "oh man, I'm deep in my feelings because a team located across the country that's already moved twice in the past 35 years just moved again" is pretty silly to me Laughing
Ok you think it's silly I can't change the way you think,but I think you question is dumb to me.I see you just don't get it besides LA/Oak why wouldn't I have a problem with it


What I also apparently don't get is wtf you're even saying in your posts.
You understood it enough to comment didn't you.Im done with you won't you go finish watching broke back Mountain


Lol the personal attacks are so funny.

Form a competent sentence and maybe we can continue this conversation. Until then, enjoy watching your Las Vegas Raiders.
Las Vegas or whatever the Raiders will be I i will support my team,awwww Twinkle Toes you're breaking my heart ctfu
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
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BABYLON 5 wrote:
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I been really in my feelings about this since monday i live in New Jersey and it still hurts.Been a Raiders fan since 88' I'm about to turn 40 soon and the Raiders is all i know,But as long they don't change name I'm gonna keep supporting the Raiders Nation I'm a Raiders for life


Why would it hurt if you're in NJ? And why would it hurt if you've been a fan since '88 and they moved in '95 to Oakland?
Regardless if I do live in Jersey they Raiders belongs in California LA/Oak Tradition should not be touch so that's why.I don't get your question, Its Cowboys fans around the world don't you think they will be mad is hell if they move out of Dallas.The Raiders is full of history certain teams you just don't move,just like I said since 88 you probably was just born so you wouldn't understand


holy assumptions Laughing

yes, I do think Cowboys fans outside of Dallas might be upset. That's slightly different though, because they've ALWAYS been the Dallas Cowboys. But honestly, I don't think they'd be "deep in their feelings" over it because they aren't from Dallas. They'd be like "man, this is weird" and that's probably it.

But to say "oh man, I'm deep in my feelings because a team located across the country that's already moved twice in the past 35 years just moved again" is pretty silly to me Laughing
Ok you think it's silly I can't change the way you think,but I think you question is dumb to me.I see you just don't get it besides LA/Oak why wouldn't I have a problem with it


What I also apparently don't get is wtf you're even saying in your posts.
You understood it enough to comment didn't you.Im done with you won't you go finish watching broke back Mountain


Lol the personal attacks are so funny.

Form a competent sentence and maybe we can continue this conversation. Until then, enjoy watching your Las Vegas Raiders.
Las Vegas or whatever the Raiders will be I i will support my team,awwww Twinkle Toes you you're breaking my heart ctfu


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BABYLON 5


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
I been really in my feelings about this since monday i live in New Jersey and it still hurts.Been a Raiders fan since 88' I'm about to turn 40 soon and the Raiders is all i know,But as long they don't change name I'm gonna keep supporting the Raiders Nation I'm a Raiders for life


Why would it hurt if you're in NJ? And why would it hurt if you've been a fan since '88 and they moved in '95 to Oakland?
Regardless if I do live in Jersey they Raiders belongs in California LA/Oak Tradition should not be touch so that's why.I don't get your question, Its Cowboys fans around the world don't you think they will be mad is hell if they move out of Dallas.The Raiders is full of history certain teams you just don't move,just like I said since 88 you probably was just born so you wouldn't understand


holy assumptions Laughing

yes, I do think Cowboys fans outside of Dallas might be upset. That's slightly different though, because they've ALWAYS been the Dallas Cowboys. But honestly, I don't think they'd be "deep in their feelings" over it because they aren't from Dallas. They'd be like "man, this is weird" and that's probably it.

But to say "oh man, I'm deep in my feelings because a team located across the country that's already moved twice in the past 35 years just moved again" is pretty silly to me Laughing
Ok you think it's silly I can't change the way you think,but I think you question is dumb to me.I see you just don't get it besides LA/Oak why wouldn't I have a problem with it


What I also apparently don't get is wtf you're even saying in your posts.
You understood it enough to comment didn't you.Im done with you won't you go finish watching broke back Mountain


Lol the personal attacks are so funny.

Form a competent sentence and maybe we can continue this conversation. Until then, enjoy watching your Las Vegas Raiders.
Las Vegas or whatever the Raiders will be I i will support my team,awwww Twinkle Toes you you're breaking my heart ctfu


Please follow the forum rules. This post has been forwarded to a moderator. Thank you.
I really don't care who it's forward to you started running off at the gums and now you want to get the web cops on me lol
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
I been really in my feelings about this since monday i live in New Jersey and it still hurts.Been a Raiders fan since 88' I'm about to turn 40 soon and the Raiders is all i know,But as long they don't change name I'm gonna keep supporting the Raiders Nation I'm a Raiders for life


Why would it hurt if you're in NJ? And why would it hurt if you've been a fan since '88 and they moved in '95 to Oakland?
Regardless if I do live in Jersey they Raiders belongs in California LA/Oak Tradition should not be touch so that's why.I don't get your question, Its Cowboys fans around the world don't you think they will be mad is hell if they move out of Dallas.The Raiders is full of history certain teams you just don't move,just like I said since 88 you probably was just born so you wouldn't understand


holy assumptions Laughing

yes, I do think Cowboys fans outside of Dallas might be upset. That's slightly different though, because they've ALWAYS been the Dallas Cowboys. But honestly, I don't think they'd be "deep in their feelings" over it because they aren't from Dallas. They'd be like "man, this is weird" and that's probably it.

But to say "oh man, I'm deep in my feelings because a team located across the country that's already moved twice in the past 35 years just moved again" is pretty silly to me Laughing
Ok you think it's silly I can't change the way you think,but I think you question is dumb to me.I see you just don't get it besides LA/Oak why wouldn't I have a problem with it


What I also apparently don't get is wtf you're even saying in your posts.
You understood it enough to comment didn't you.Im done with you won't you go finish watching broke back Mountain


Lol the personal attacks are so funny.

Form a competent sentence and maybe we can continue this conversation. Until then, enjoy watching your Las Vegas Raiders.
Las Vegas or whatever the Raiders will be I i will support my team,awwww Twinkle Toes you you're breaking my heart ctfu


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How about you stop antagonizing him? He shared his feelings on the matter and you have been up his butt about it from the get go. He feels the way he feels as a fan. Whether it makes sense to you or not is irrelevant. Let it go.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about you stop antagonizing him? He shared his feelings on the matter and you have been up his butt about it from the get go. He feels the way he feels as a fan. Whether it makes sense to you or not is irrelevant. Let it go.


I have not antagonized him. I have asked questions and had a conversation. He's rebutted with personal attacks, not me. This is a discussion board. I was attempting to have a discussion.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
I been really in my feelings about this since monday i live in New Jersey and it still hurts.Been a Raiders fan since 88' I'm about to turn 40 soon and the Raiders is all i know,But as long they don't change name I'm gonna keep supporting the Raiders Nation I'm a Raiders for life


Why would it hurt if you're in NJ? And why would it hurt if you've been a fan since '88 and they moved in '95 to Oakland?
Regardless if I do live in Jersey they Raiders belongs in California LA/Oak Tradition should not be touch so that's why.I don't get your question, Its Cowboys fans around the world don't you think they will be mad is hell if they move out of Dallas.The Raiders is full of history certain teams you just don't move,just like I said since 88 you probably was just born so you wouldn't understand


holy assumptions Laughing

yes, I do think Cowboys fans outside of Dallas might be upset. That's slightly different though, because they've ALWAYS been the Dallas Cowboys. But honestly, I don't think they'd be "deep in their feelings" over it because they aren't from Dallas. They'd be like "man, this is weird" and that's probably it.

But to say "oh man, I'm deep in my feelings because a team located across the country that's already moved twice in the past 35 years just moved again" is pretty silly to me Laughing
Ok you think it's silly I can't change the way you think,but I think you question is dumb to me.I see you just don't get it besides LA/Oak why wouldn't I have a problem with it


What I also apparently don't get is wtf you're even saying in your posts.
You understood it enough to comment didn't you.Im done with you won't you go finish watching broke back Mountain


Lol the personal attacks are so funny.

Form a competent sentence and maybe we can continue this conversation. Until then, enjoy watching your Las Vegas Raiders.
Las Vegas or whatever the Raiders will be I i will support my team,awwww Twinkle Toes you you're breaking my heart ctfu


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I really don't care who it's forward to you started running off at the gums and now you want to get the web cops on me lol


No, I'd like to simply keep this discussion board as on topic as possible.

So, let's try this.

When the Raiders up and leave Oakland, are you going to go to their new home in Las Vegas to see a game? Did you ever go to a game in Los Angeles after they left Oakland the first time?
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Ticket prices will be astronomical huh?

Not that'd I'd likely go. Going to Minneapolis is already super expensive.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
BABYLON 5 wrote:
I been really in my feelings about this since monday i live in New Jersey and it still hurts.Been a Raiders fan since 88' I'm about to turn 40 soon and the Raiders is all i know,But as long they don't change name I'm gonna keep supporting the Raiders Nation I'm a Raiders for life


Why would it hurt if you're in NJ? And why would it hurt if you've been a fan since '88 and they moved in '95 to Oakland?
Regardless if I do live in Jersey they Raiders belongs in California LA/Oak Tradition should not be touch so that's why.I don't get your question, Its Cowboys fans around the world don't you think they will be mad is hell if they move out of Dallas.The Raiders is full of history certain teams you just don't move,just like I said since 88 you probably was just born so you wouldn't understand


holy assumptions Laughing

yes, I do think Cowboys fans outside of Dallas might be upset. That's slightly different though, because they've ALWAYS been the Dallas Cowboys. But honestly, I don't think they'd be "deep in their feelings" over it because they aren't from Dallas. They'd be like "man, this is weird" and that's probably it.

But to say "oh man, I'm deep in my feelings because a team located across the country that's already moved twice in the past 35 years just moved again" is pretty silly to me Laughing
Ok you think it's silly I can't change the way you think,but I think you question is dumb to me.I see you just don't get it besides LA/Oak why wouldn't I have a problem with it


What I also apparently don't get is wtf you're even saying in your posts.
You understood it enough to comment didn't you.Im done with you won't you go finish watching broke back Mountain


Lol the personal attacks are so funny.

Form a competent sentence and maybe we can continue this conversation. Until then, enjoy watching your Las Vegas Raiders.
Las Vegas or whatever the Raiders will be I i will support my team,awwww Twinkle Toes you you're breaking my heart ctfu


Please follow the forum rules. This post has been forwarded to a moderator. Thank you.
I really don't care who it's forward to you started running off at the gums and now you want to get the web cops on me lol


No, I'd like to simply keep this discussion board as on topic as possible.

So, let's try this.

When the Raiders up and leave Oakland, are you going to go to their new home in Las Vegas to see a game? Did you ever go to a game in Los Angeles after they left Oakland the first time?
No I never been to a game when they was in LA just Oakland and to the second part of your question yes I will be planning to go to some games in LV
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This could be the only city where an away team's fanbase will be compelled to make the trip from wherever to watch their team play. Party Friday and Saturday. Then watch your team play the Raiders on Sunday.

Not a good recipe for a home field advantage.


It really just depends on how many season tickets are sold outside of Raider fans. I'm assuming there will be an allotment that will go towards hotel/casinos, but most should be sold to raider fans. So if raider fans sell them then I could see what your saying, but most tickets will be bought by raider fans. A bunch of us on this site have already put our deposit down and are waiting to find out how much the PSLs will be. Point being most tickets will be owned by Raider fans. Box suites will probably be bought up by the casinos though.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flaccomania wrote:
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How about you stop antagonizing him? He shared his feelings on the matter and you have been up his butt about it from the get go. He feels the way he feels as a fan. Whether it makes sense to you or not is irrelevant. Let it go.


I have not antagonized him. I have asked questions and had a conversation. He's rebutted with personal attacks, not me. This is a discussion board. I was attempting to have a discussion.


Oh stop with the passive aggressive nonsense. This isnt the first trip to the rodeo for any of us. You came at him like he had no business feeling the way he felt. He naturally got defensive.

You want to get technical, this is a football discussion board. Stop talking about him and how he feels and stick to football. How about that? Can we all get on board? The topic is the Raiders move to Vegas. You want to stay on topic? Move it back to the Raiders move to Vegas and stop grilling Babylon 5.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non-Issue wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
Non-Issue wrote:

How about you stop antagonizing him? He shared his feelings on the matter and you have been up his butt about it from the get go. He feels the way he feels as a fan. Whether it makes sense to you or not is irrelevant. Let it go.


I have not antagonized him. I have asked questions and had a conversation. He's rebutted with personal attacks, not me. This is a discussion board. I was attempting to have a discussion.


Oh stop with the passive aggressive nonsense. This isnt the first trip to the rodeo for any of us. You came at him like he had no business feeling the way he felt. He naturally got defensive.

You want to get technical, this is a football discussion board. Stop talking about him and how he feels and stick to football. How about that? Can we all get on board? The topic is the Raiders move to Vegas. You want to stay on topic? Move it back to the Raiders move to Vegas and stop grilling Babylon 5.


Stop grilling Flacco Laughing

Just kidding I always enjoy that.

As a fan of a team that moved that didn't play within 3 hours of where I lived I can say that it bothered me. 20+ years later it still does. I haven't completely healed as crazy as that sounds so the scar will be permanent once it does heal.

I will never dismiss the feelings that fans have when the franchise they love decides to relocate. They are entitled to feel how they feel, those that belittle their feelings are the bad guys who have their own reason for doing so.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non-Issue wrote:
Flaccomania wrote:
Non-Issue wrote:

How about you stop antagonizing him? He shared his feelings on the matter and you have been up his butt about it from the get go. He feels the way he feels as a fan. Whether it makes sense to you or not is irrelevant. Let it go.


I have not antagonized him. I have asked questions and had a conversation. He's rebutted with personal attacks, not me. This is a discussion board. I was attempting to have a discussion.


Oh stop with the passive aggressive nonsense. This isnt the first trip to the rodeo for any of us. You came at him like he had no business feeling the way he felt. He naturally got defensive.

You want to get technical, this is a football discussion board. Stop talking about him and how he feels and stick to football. How about that? Can we all get on board? The topic is the Raiders move to Vegas. You want to stay on topic? Move it back to the Raiders move to Vegas and stop grilling Babylon 5.


Please stick to football. It's right there in the forum rules. How this move impacts the Raiders, how it impacts their fans, etc.

Thank you in advance.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Flacco. I think he asked a legit question. For example, I'm not really that old so it has always been the St. Louis Rams to me. I became a Rams fan even though I'm from California. When they moved from St. Louis it was weird at first because I was so used to "St. Louis" being apart of their name, but after a bit of time went past it was super easy to get accustom to the change. Of course, the Rams had moved before in the 90's so it's not like this is a team like the Cowboys or Packers moving to a different city.
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Man... I often pray the Lions move just so I have a passable excuse to change my loyalties. Of course, it actually looks like we may finally be building something legit, but I've been tricked before.

Raiders moving to Vegas is the ultimate sellout move. I had a bit of love for them, possibly because I was raised in the Bay area, but that's all immediately gone now. I just have no love for franchises without a real home base... I've always of held on to the loyalties and emotions that tie an area to a team.

I know that Vegas is a legitimately working class town with actual people that reside there, but it doesn't feel that way... Possibly because that just isn't where the money or interest from this project is coming from.

I feel like this really hurts the legacy of the NFL for a quick cash infusion.
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I guess fans just need to realize the NFL teams are a product and "fans" are just customers. NFL owners don't care about legacy within a community as much as they care about dollar signs.

As a 49ers fan these recent franchise moves have reiterated the point that anyone can move anywhere regardless of how much history a team has in one place. I think I would still follow the team if they moved. I think.
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