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Who Should They Take?
Christian McCaffrey [ RB ] Stanford
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Corey Davis [ WR ] Western Michigan
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Dalvin Cook [ RB ] Florida State
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Derek Barnett [ DE ] Tennessee
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Deshaun Watson [ QB ] Clemson
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
DeShone Kizer [ QB ] Notre Dame
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Haason Reddick [ OLB ] Temple
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Jabrill Peppers [ SS ] Michigan
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
John Ross [ WR ] Washington
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Jonathan Allen [ DT ] Alabama
23%
 23%  [ 21 ]
Leonard Fournette [ RB ] LSU
47%
 47%  [ 42 ]
Malik Hooker [ FS ] Ohio State
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
Malik McDowell [ DT ] Michigan State
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Marlon Humphrey [ CB ] Alabama
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Marshon Lattimore [ CB ] Ohio State
7%
 7%  [ 7 ]
Mike Williams [ WR ] Clemson
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Mitch Trubisky [ QB ] North Carolina
5%
 5%  [ 5 ]
O.J. Howard [ TE ] Alabama
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
Patrick Mahomes II [ QB ] Texas Tech
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Reuben Foster [ ILB ] Alabama
2%
 2%  [ 2 ]
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TheVillain112


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mse326 wrote:
This was actually difficult. Their defense is definitely better than the offense but the offense biggest issue is Bortles and I don't think any of the QBs are worth this pick. I don't think Fournette turns them around at all (running issues to me were more about loaded boxes and poor OL play). Too high for guard. I considered Howard.

While the defense is strong from a yards standpoint they were horrible in creating turnovers. More experience from their young guys can go a long way in that but I think they need another playmaker. So I would go with Hooker.

But I can definitely see them going a few different directions.


I agree that Brotles is the biggest thing holding them back but you have to give him time to see if he can work through his issues. I went with Fournette because Jags need to upgrade that offense and he's probably the quickest way to do that...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went Fournette, I wanted to go Allen but his injury history is going to cause a fall. McDowell is a darkhorse option here too.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheVillain112 wrote:
mse326 wrote:
This was actually difficult. Their defense is definitely better than the offense but the offense biggest issue is Bortles and I don't think any of the QBs are worth this pick. I don't think Fournette turns them around at all (running issues to me were more about loaded boxes and poor OL play). Too high for guard. I considered Howard.

While the defense is strong from a yards standpoint they were horrible in creating turnovers. More experience from their young guys can go a long way in that but I think they need another playmaker. So I would go with Hooker.

But I can definitely see them going a few different directions.


I agree that Brotles is the biggest thing holding them back but you have to give him time to see if he can work through his issues. I went with Fournette because Jags need to upgrade that offense and he's probably the quickest way to do that...


I just don't feel Ivory/Yeldon are that bad a RB duo. It's the line more than anything stopping the running game. If I went offense it would be OJ Howard. And that is a reasonable pick to me. But a playmaking safety is so hard to get.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mse326 wrote:
TheVillain112 wrote:
mse326 wrote:
This was actually difficult. Their defense is definitely better than the offense but the offense biggest issue is Bortles and I don't think any of the QBs are worth this pick. I don't think Fournette turns them around at all (running issues to me were more about loaded boxes and poor OL play). Too high for guard. I considered Howard.

While the defense is strong from a yards standpoint they were horrible in creating turnovers. More experience from their young guys can go a long way in that but I think they need another playmaker. So I would go with Hooker.

But I can definitely see them going a few different directions.


I agree that Brotles is the biggest thing holding them back but you have to give him time to see if he can work through his issues. I went with Fournette because Jags need to upgrade that offense and he's probably the quickest way to do that...


I just don't feel Ivory/Yeldon are that bad a RB duo. It's the line more than anything stopping the running game. If I went offense it would be OJ Howard. And that is a reasonable pick to me. But a playmaking safety is so hard to get.


They are not good enough to build the offense around.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WindyCity wrote:
mse326 wrote:
TheVillain112 wrote:
mse326 wrote:
This was actually difficult. Their defense is definitely better than the offense but the offense biggest issue is Bortles and I don't think any of the QBs are worth this pick. I don't think Fournette turns them around at all (running issues to me were more about loaded boxes and poor OL play). Too high for guard. I considered Howard.

While the defense is strong from a yards standpoint they were horrible in creating turnovers. More experience from their young guys can go a long way in that but I think they need another playmaker. So I would go with Hooker.

But I can definitely see them going a few different directions.


I agree that Brotles is the biggest thing holding them back but you have to give him time to see if he can work through his issues. I went with Fournette because Jags need to upgrade that offense and he's probably the quickest way to do that...


I just don't feel Ivory/Yeldon are that bad a RB duo. It's the line more than anything stopping the running game. If I went offense it would be OJ Howard. And that is a reasonable pick to me. But a playmaking safety is so hard to get.


They are not good enough to build the offense around.


I look at this similar to the "why do the Vikings need Adrian Peterson they just signed Chester Taylor whose a decent back"...
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TheVillain112 wrote:
WindyCity wrote:
mse326 wrote:
TheVillain112 wrote:
mse326 wrote:
This was actually difficult. Their defense is definitely better than the offense but the offense biggest issue is Bortles and I don't think any of the QBs are worth this pick. I don't think Fournette turns them around at all (running issues to me were more about loaded boxes and poor OL play). Too high for guard. I considered Howard.

While the defense is strong from a yards standpoint they were horrible in creating turnovers. More experience from their young guys can go a long way in that but I think they need another playmaker. So I would go with Hooker.

But I can definitely see them going a few different directions.


I agree that Brotles is the biggest thing holding them back but you have to give him time to see if he can work through his issues. I went with Fournette because Jags need to upgrade that offense and he's probably the quickest way to do that...


I just don't feel Ivory/Yeldon are that bad a RB duo. It's the line more than anything stopping the running game. If I went offense it would be OJ Howard. And that is a reasonable pick to me. But a playmaking safety is so hard to get.


They are not good enough to build the offense around.


I look at this similar to the "why do the Vikings need Adrian Peterson they just signed Chester Taylor whose a decent back"...


lol I remember that was actual reasoning for some people
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brownie man wrote:
TheVillain112 wrote:
WindyCity wrote:
mse326 wrote:
TheVillain112 wrote:
mse326 wrote:
This was actually difficult. Their defense is definitely better than the offense but the offense biggest issue is Bortles and I don't think any of the QBs are worth this pick. I don't think Fournette turns them around at all (running issues to me were more about loaded boxes and poor OL play). Too high for guard. I considered Howard.

While the defense is strong from a yards standpoint they were horrible in creating turnovers. More experience from their young guys can go a long way in that but I think they need another playmaker. So I would go with Hooker.

But I can definitely see them going a few different directions.


I agree that Brotles is the biggest thing holding them back but you have to give him time to see if he can work through his issues. I went with Fournette because Jags need to upgrade that offense and he's probably the quickest way to do that...


I just don't feel Ivory/Yeldon are that bad a RB duo. It's the line more than anything stopping the running game. If I went offense it would be OJ Howard. And that is a reasonable pick to me. But a playmaking safety is so hard to get.


They are not good enough to build the offense around.


I look at this similar to the "why do the Vikings need Adrian Peterson they just signed Chester Taylor whose a decent back"...


lol I remember that was actual reasoning for some people


Poor Chester Taylor...completely ruined his career Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coughlin is a firm believer in winning in the trenches. That's why I lean towards Allen. A DL rotation of Campbell, Allen, Jones, Jackson, Fowler, Ngakoue and Day would be pretty solid. Keep everyone fresh.

Im not worried about his shoulders to be honest. Maybe I should be but if the Jags medical staff says he's ok, he will probably be the pick.


As for Fournette, they have talked all off-season about playing better around Bortles. He can be the workhorse and take a lot of pressure off of Bortles.


I think it'll be a two horse race in the end, Allen and Fournette. Allen gets the nod for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give me Jonathan Allen unless the team is worried about Allen's shoulders in the short term. TC is all about building the lines and getting as many good big bodies around. Pass rush was poor last year and even with the assumed step forward with Ngakoue/Fowler and addition of Campbell you shouldn't stop adding now.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lattimore or watson iwbr

would have voted cam robinson though if he was an option
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Question for Jags fans: How would Allen (or Solomon Thomas if he's there) fit into the scheme?

I just dont get how you would find enough playing time for Fowler, Ngakoue, Malik, and Campbell. I'm assuming you guys are still running Seattle's system so woudn't your DL be:

SLB (Fowler?) - Campbell (DE) - Nose Tackle - Malik (3 Tech) - Ngakoue (Leo)

I dont see where Allen would fit in because he would need to either be a 3 Tech or DE. Same with Solomon who I think would also play the 3 Tech or DE unless you guys think he can be a LEO which I don't really understand how he would fit there.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our biggest problems on offense are Bortles and the OL. Sadly the OL is top heavy this yr and i dont much care for the qbs this year. I went LF. Give TC his FT
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Chwf3rd25 wrote:
Question for Jags fans: How would Allen (or Solomon Thomas if he's there) fit into the scheme?

I just dont get how you would find enough playing time for Fowler, Ngakoue, Malik, and Campbell. I'm assuming you guys are still running Seattle's system so woudn't your DL be:

SLB (Fowler?) - Campbell (DE) - Nose Tackle - Malik (3 Tech) - Ngakoue (Leo)

I dont see where Allen would fit in because he would need to either be a 3 Tech or DE. Same with Solomon who I think would also play the 3 Tech or DE unless you guys think he can be a LEO which I don't really understand how he would fit there.


Allen and Thomas would both be strong side ends. Obviously both have the ability to slide inside. The versatility is always a plus.

LDE: Campbell/Allen
NT: Jones
3 Tech- Jackson/Day
RDE: Ngakoue/Fowler


On passing downs, slide Campbell inside, with Allen at LDE.

Allen-Campbell-Malik-Ngakoue with Fowler standing up along the LOS somewhere. That should be able to generate a good amount of pressure.

Calais is 31, so Allen would obviously be his successor.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like I am in the SERIOUS minority here, but I went with Howard. Julius Thomas is gone, so replace him with the best overall TE prospect in YEARS. He'll become Blake's best friend pretty quickly. Best OT prospect in the 2nd, best RB prospect in the 3rd.
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Voted Fournette. Build the offense. Teetered between him and Allen but here we are.
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