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WHO DO WE TARGET?
RB then a developmental WR/TE
11%
 11%  [ 4 ]
RB then a college OT to kick inside to OG
36%
 36%  [ 13 ]
Pass catcher (WR/TE) then RB
5%
 5%  [ 2 ]
Interior OL then RB
13%
 13%  [ 5 ]
QB-RB and trade Rodgers for a couple of picks and a ham sandwich [HorizontoZenith school of thought]
8%
 8%  [ 3 ]
Doesn't matter--defense needs the love and attention of the Front Office
25%
 25%  [ 9 ]
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CentralFC


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: 2017 NFL Draft Discussion [OFFENSE] Reply with quote


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Somebody take the off season shovel out of Ted's hands & bury him in his own hole.

How can he dig a hole if he's too busy sitting on his hands?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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Somebody take the off season shovel out of Ted's hands & bury him in his own hole.

How can he dig a hole if he's too busy sitting on his hands?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think we will draft another WR at some point.

Nelson is going to be 32 before the start of next season.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cadmus wrote:
Think we will draft another WR at some point.

Nelson is going to be 32 before the start of next season.


Are you saying trade up for Corey Davis in the 1st Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

squire12 wrote:
Cadmus wrote:
Think we will draft another WR at some point.

Nelson is going to be 32 before the start of next season.


Are you saying trade up for Corey Davis in the 1st Wink


Laughing

No, I'm saying that I want Malone or Golladay to develop behind Nelson.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a google sheets workbook that has the 2017 NFL combine numbers for the majority of players.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I-BkL8LxYqnX48zItHaGXxJNJ1woFG0jzKuf5GOIJm4/edit#gid=774953631


I can add in missing tests from Pro days as they become available. if anyone has them, feel free to post them and I can add them in.

The green highlight are indicators that those times at at/below the TT cutoffs from previous draft prospects (roughly). Yellow indicates that they are close and could get improve enough at their respective pro day.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Levon Myers 3-Cone - 7.52

Add him to the list of TT OL.

It's seems to be VERY short list at the moment. Hopefully a couple of the OL have good Pro Days.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lamp, Dawkins, Feeney, Myers, Levin and Siragusa. Highly likely that Dunker will be included once his numbers are updated.

Anyone else that I'm missing right now?

BTW Lamp, Dawkins, and Myers are all TT prospects based on twitter.
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Cadmus wrote:
Lamp, Dawkins, Feeney, Myers, Levin and Siragusa. Highly likely that Dunker will be included once his numbers are updated.

Anyone else that I'm missing right now?

BTW Lamp, Dawkins, and Myers are all TT prospects based on twitter.


Where does Dunker come short?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NormSizedMidget wrote:
Cadmus wrote:
Lamp, Dawkins, Feeney, Myers, Levin and Siragusa. Highly likely that Dunker will be included once his numbers are updated.

Anyone else that I'm missing right now?

BTW Lamp, Dawkins, and Myers are all TT prospects based on twitter.


Where does Dunker come short?


To my knowledge, there's no 3-Cone yet.

However, Dunker ran a sub 5.0 40 at the NFL Combine and certainly appears to have the in-game movement skills that would lead me to believe he possesses a sub 7.7 3-Cone.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cadmus wrote:
NormSizedMidget wrote:
Cadmus wrote:
Lamp, Dawkins, Feeney, Myers, Levin and Siragusa. Highly likely that Dunker will be included once his numbers are updated.

Anyone else that I'm missing right now?

BTW Lamp, Dawkins, and Myers are all TT prospects based on twitter.


Where does Dunker come short?


To my knowledge, there's no 3-Cone yet.

However, Dunker ran a sub 5.0 40 at the NFL Combine and certainly appears to have the in-game movement skills that would lead me to believe he possesses a sub 7.7 3-Cone.


Okay yeah that was my thinking. That he sounds like that guy. Gotcha
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03/17/17 - Tennessee State football held its annual Pro Day on Friday morning at the Indoor Football Facility in front of representatives from 23 NFL organizations and one CFL team. The onlookers included Titans head coach Mike Mularkey, as well as general managers Jon Robinson (Titans) and Jerry Reese (NY Giants). Ten former Tigers showed off their abilities in numerous facets, including strength, speed, agility and positional skills. Offensive lineman Jessamen Dunker and cornerback Ezra Robinson each participated in the Tigers event, fresh off their appearances at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, Ind. two weeks ago. Dunker ran the three-cone drill and the short shuttle (20-yard) on Friday; two skills he did not complete at the combine. The 6-4, 318 pound lineman finished in 7.88 and 4.9 seconds, respectively. Both times were competitive with times set by lineman at the combine. - Tennessee State football


Appears Dunker posted times at his pro day
3 cone 7.88
shuttle 4.9
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NormSizedMidget wrote:
Cadmus wrote:
NormSizedMidget wrote:
Cadmus wrote:
Lamp, Dawkins, Feeney, Myers, Levin and Siragusa. Highly likely that Dunker will be included once his numbers are updated.

Anyone else that I'm missing right now?

BTW Lamp, Dawkins, and Myers are all TT prospects based on twitter.


Where does Dunker come short?


To my knowledge, there's no 3-Cone yet.

However, Dunker ran a sub 5.0 40 at the NFL Combine and certainly appears to have the in-game movement skills that would lead me to believe he possesses a sub 7.7 3-Cone.


Okay yeah that was my thinking. That he sounds like that guy. Gotcha


So that puts you at 7.

Then I only have 6 players left in my notes that have draft (or fringe 7th/PFA) grades that I have a check mark next to, which means I think they could run a sub 7.7 3-Cone (or at least near a 7.7 3-Cone). These are all players that have experience at Tackle, but could move to Guard.

JJ Dielman
Erik Magnuson
Michael Dunn
Evan Goodman
Kofi Amichia
Jonathan McLaughlin

Almost all of those players have Late Day 3 grades. There could be a few more, but my notes are not particularly organized for the OL position.
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Cadmus wrote:
Levon Myers 3-Cone - 7.52

Add him to the list of TT OL.

It's seems to be VERY short list at the moment. Hopefully a couple of the OL have good Pro Days.


3 cone makes the cut, short shuttle of 7.83 is above the threshold of 4.75

He is on the margin there, but his 40 time was 5.42 which is above the 5.2
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squire12 wrote:
Cadmus wrote:
Levon Myers 3-Cone - 7.52

Add him to the list of TT OL.

It's seems to be VERY short list at the moment. Hopefully a couple of the OL have good Pro Days.


3 cone makes the cut, short shuttle of 7.83 is above the threshold of 4.75

He is on the margin there, but his 40 time was 5.42 which is above the 5.2


I don't think either of those numbers mean nearly as much as the 3-Cone. Pretty sure those shuttle times were all over the board the further you go back, but I haven't looked at the numbers recently.

I know that I recorded everything for each TT OL and the only thing I recall being consistent was the 3-Cone. If the 3C is good then the shuttle should typically be good, which is why you would see a general trend.
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