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magross


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:58 am    Post subject: Pre St. Pattys/Post FA Mock Draft Reply with quote

Can't wait to get ripped for this

Trades:

WR Nelson Agholor to CHI for CB Kyle Fuller


Eagles trade #14 (1st) to TEN for #18 (1st) and TEN Pick #83 (3rd) and 2018 4th


1-#18 - WR Corey Davis WMU 6'3" 209 LBS



2-#43 - CB Tre'Davious White LSU 5'11' 192 LBS 32" Arms



3-#74 - DE Demarcus Walker FLST 6'4" 280 LBS 33" Arms



3-#83 - CB Sidney Jones WAS 6" 181 LBS 31.5" Arms



4-#119 - HB Joe Mixon OKLA 6'1" 226 LBS



4-#139 - CB Corn Elder MIA 5'10" 183 LBS 31" Arms



5-#155 - WR Dede Westbrook OKLA 6" 178 LBS 30.5" Arms



6-#194 - DT Eddie Vanderdoes UCLA 6'3" 305 LBS 33" Arms



6-#199 - OL Aviante Collins TCU 6'4" 295 LBS 33.5" Arms



7-#230 - LB Brandon Bell PSU 6'1" 230 LBS
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it but I doubt you can trade down and get Davis. But I'm for taking him at 14. I love T. White but think he's a 1st rounder now. I think a more realistic guy at 42 is Fabian Moreau.

I like most of the rest but it'll be interesting to see if some of these guys are available when you have them picking.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also several character and injury concerns here. I wonder if the Eagles will take that many risks
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see the appeal of Corn Elder. He's like a folk legend on these boards. Small, slow, short armed CB's I'll pass on.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like the Nelson for Fuller trade. First I've seen it here.

I don't see mixon or Westbrook falling that far. But if the draft panned out that way, I'd be pretty happy. Good job
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Pete said, you have a ton of guys falling a round or two further than most project.

I doubt Fuller can be traded for at least he showed glimpses we'd have to add something with Agholor
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EaglesPeteC wrote:
I like it but I doubt you can trade down and get Davis. But I'm for taking him at 14. I love T. White but think he's a 1st rounder now. I think a more realistic guy at 42 is Fabian Moreau.

I like most of the rest but it'll be interesting to see if some of these guys are available when you have them picking.


I honestly think Moreaus combine put him up into top 5 as well as Sidney injury, I think white slips a lil bit bcuz of Tabor who I hate and Wilson go before him as well as Moreau

I understand the Davis but the eagles couldn't refuse the offer and luckily the Titans traded up for defensive players in my mind n colts take cook n don't see Davis as a need for the following in between. Teams. I have Ross and Williams before Davis.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jlash wrote:
I don't see the appeal of Corn Elder. He's like a folk legend on these boards. Small, slow, short armed CB's I'll pass on.


Looking at measurables I understand that, however look at game film. Joe Haden is very comparable to his game tape n measurables. Although Elder can lay some viscous hits.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nlesthought wrote:
As Pete said, you have a ton of guys falling a round or two further than most project.

I doubt Fuller can be traded for at least he showed glimpses we'd have to add something with Agholor


I think with certain teams they'll like certain players, and that could make for a very unique draft. Especially defensively since there are so many different types of players and skill sets.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

didnt make it pass the agholor for fuller trade.


voted just no.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninjapirate wrote:
didnt make it pass the agholor for fuller trade.


voted just no.


It's a bust for bust trade. Change of scenery be good for both players.
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EagleDeegle


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

magross wrote:
ninjapirate wrote:
didnt make it pass the agholor for fuller trade.


voted just no.


It's a bust for bust trade. Change of scenery be good for both players.


The bears just signed Marcus Cooper, prince amukamara and re-signed Jonathan Banks. Not to mention that Fuller is a free agent next year... As crazy as this sounds, Nelson has more value to the bears than Kyle Fuller (who have freaking rueben Randle as their 4th wr right now... Yeah... That guy)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see the trade happening.
Did you propose it in the Bears' thread?
Yeah, I didn't think so.

"It's a bust for bust trade. Change of scenery be good for both players."

Is Fuller a bust at this point?
Or does he just need some more work/discipline.
Agholor has done squadoosh.
He is a bust.
He only made the team because of his salary hit ..... and still will.
Fuller has a decent season under his belt and just needs to be reclaimed.

Even more dubious is the Titans trade.
Why would a rebuilding team part with draft picks.
They are the cornerstone of rebuilding.
One pick for one pick and never more than a round apart may be plausible.
Anything else is a wet dream.

If you like Moreau that much (and I do) tab him in the first.
The Eagles have enough at WR for 2017.

"I think with certain teams they'll like certain players, and that could make for a very unique draft. Especially defensively since there are so many different types of players and skill sets."

Elaborate. I mean be specific. Who really likes who?
It sounds as if you are wishing on this one.

Character concerns are not universally applied.
One team may take Mixon off the board.
One team may downgrade him a round or two.
And another may disregard all of it.
It only takes one team.
He's better than a 4th round talent.
Someone will likely take a chance on him higher than that.

Walker, Westbrook and Vanderdoes are all "brand name" picks.
You sound like a kid whose mom never bought Oreos ..... or even Hydrox.
You got the big yellow pack of "Black Cookies."
Look deeper into the "generics."
They have the same ingredients/metrics or better.
Mom was right.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not too likely but sure would like for it to play out like this. Btw, glad to finally join you guys. Been a forum "stalker" for nearly 12 years and for some reason just decided to post. Looking forward to being a part of the greatest section of FF!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

babyatemydingo wrote:
I don't see the trade happening.
Did you propose it in the Bears' thread?
Yeah, I didn't think so.

"It's a bust for bust trade. Change of scenery be good for both players."

Is Fuller a bust at this point?
Or does he just need some more work/discipline.
Agholor has done squadoosh.
He is a bust.
He only made the team because of his salary hit ..... and still will.
Fuller has a decent season under his belt and just needs to be reclaimed.

Even more dubious is the Titans trade.
Why would a rebuilding team part with draft picks.
They are the cornerstone of rebuilding.
One pick for one pick and never more than a round apart may be plausible.
Anything else is a wet dream.

If you like Moreau that much (and I do) tab him in the first.
The Eagles have enough at WR for 2017.

"I think with certain teams they'll like certain players, and that could make for a very unique draft. Especially defensively since there are so many different types of players and skill sets."

Elaborate. I mean be specific. Who really likes who?
It sounds as if you are wishing on this one.

Character concerns are not universally applied.
One team may take Mixon off the board.
One team may downgrade him a round or two.
And another may disregard all of it.
It only takes one team.
He's better than a 4th round talent.
Someone will likely take a chance on him higher than that.

Walker, Westbrook and Vanderdoes are all "brand name" picks.
You sound like a kid whose mom never bought Oreos ..... or even Hydrox.
You got the big yellow pack of "Black Cookies."
Look deeper into the "generics."
They have the same ingredients/metrics or better.
Mom was right.


Ouch! You didn't need to ragdoll the guy. Lol... Brutal.

Fuller is definitely on the outs in Chicago...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-kyle-fuller-vic-fangio-biggs-spt-1221-20161220-column.html

Hell, just Google "Kyle Fuller trade" and there are a bunch of great articles. Fuller is in the final year of his deal... On a team who has rueben Randle playing significant minutes at WR. The same team who just resigned Jonathan Banks, and signed Marcus Cooper and Prince Amukamara... It's not a far off base trade.

And what even is a "brand name", "black cookie" pick? Just because we were all over walker and Westbrook early?
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