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3rivers
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:51 am Post subject: jarvis |
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If we don't get OLB/Edge in UFA, then we will rely on the draft. If that doesn't work, can you see us signing jarvis during the season if nobody signs jarvis?
Has LeBeau (or anyone else) tried to sign jarvis? Considering his lack of production, I doubt he will get many offers, and the ones he gets won't be costly.
We have Chickillo waiting and I would say another draft pick this year (maybe 2 picks) and lets not have injuries to OLB. If they bring back jones because of injuries, what will you think of the FO then? |
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warfelg 
Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Posts: 3564 Location: Richmond Va
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Nope. It's only 3 days into FA. I'm as annoyed as some of you, but don't let that all the sudden mean panic. _________________
jebrick wrote: | Quote: | Jarvis Jones signs with Steelers |
Hahahahaha.
Jones' only chance is to go to Tenn. Otherwise he is flipping burgers this fall. |
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KofQ 
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:05 am Post subject: |
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warfelg wrote: | Nope. It's only 3 days into FA. I'm as annoyed as some of you, but don't let that all the sudden mean panic. |
While I agree with your post. If this trend continues I will take Jarvis back on the cheap side and as a depth player not a starter, he knows the system and can be decent depth. But that's it imo. _________________
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MOSteelers56 
Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 6619 Location: Anywheresville Missouri
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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KofQ wrote: | warfelg wrote: | Nope. It's only 3 days into FA. I'm as annoyed as some of you, but don't let that all the sudden mean panic. |
While I agree with your post. If this trend continues I will take Jarvis back on the cheap side and as a depth player not a starter, he knows the system and can be decent depth. But that's it imo. |
And, to be fair, he looked pretty solid on special teams late in the season. Says something about a dude to take that kind of demotion and keeps getting after it. _________________
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3rivers
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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MOSteelers56 wrote: | KofQ wrote: | warfelg wrote: | Nope. It's only 3 days into FA. I'm as annoyed as some of you, but don't let that all the sudden mean panic. |
While I agree with your post. If this trend continues I will take Jarvis back on the cheap side and as a depth player not a starter, he knows the system and can be decent depth. But that's it imo. |
And, to be fair, he looked pretty solid on special teams late in the season. Says something about a dude to take that kind of demotion and keeps getting after it. |
if he couldn't play on ST then he wouldn't play at all. Other teams know this, and I doubt they will be lining up to sing a ST player.
As for knowing the system, what good did that do? Time to let new players have a chance, let jarvis walk. |
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KofQ 
Joined: 29 Mar 2014 Posts: 998 Location: IA
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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3rivers wrote: | MOSteelers56 wrote: | KofQ wrote: | warfelg wrote: | Nope. It's only 3 days into FA. I'm as annoyed as some of you, but don't let that all the sudden mean panic. |
While I agree with your post. If this trend continues I will take Jarvis back on the cheap side and as a depth player not a starter, he knows the system and can be decent depth. But that's it imo. |
And, to be fair, he looked pretty solid on special teams late in the season. Says something about a dude to take that kind of demotion and keeps getting after it. |
if he couldn't play on ST then he wouldn't play at all. Other teams know this, and I doubt they will be lining up to sing a ST player.
As for knowing the system, what good did that do? Time to let new players have a chance, let jarvis walk. |
It's a benefit to know the system and culture. I'm not saying it's a huge deal but there is benefit to it. And if he comes dirt cheap I'll take him back as a special teamer and depth if there isn't a upgrade out there. _________________
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Steeler Hitman
Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 1795 Location: Laurel, MD
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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3rivers wrote: | MOSteelers56 wrote: | KofQ wrote: | warfelg wrote: | Nope. It's only 3 days into FA. I'm as annoyed as some of you, but don't let that all the sudden mean panic. |
While I agree with your post. If this trend continues I will take Jarvis back on the cheap side and as a depth player not a starter, he knows the system and can be decent depth. But that's it imo. |
And, to be fair, he looked pretty solid on special teams late in the season. Says something about a dude to take that kind of demotion and keeps getting after it. |
if he couldn't play on ST then he wouldn't play at all. Other teams know this, and I doubt they will be lining up to sing a ST player.
As for knowing the system, what good did that do? Time to let new players have a chance, let Jarvis walk. |
I agree with what you are saying. Sometimes it is best to break ties and move in a nother direction. That is good for teams and players. Jones could find a solid opportunity for success in a defense like Tampa Bay's.
A change of scenery will do players good like an influx of new talent does the team. _________________ "Being a Steeler fan starts when the sperm meets the egg!" -- Unknown Steeler Fan |
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3rivers
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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KofQ wrote: | 3rivers wrote: | MOSteelers56 wrote: | KofQ wrote: | warfelg wrote: | Nope. It's only 3 days into FA. I'm as annoyed as some of you, but don't let that all the sudden mean panic. |
While I agree with your post. If this trend continues I will take Jarvis back on the cheap side and as a depth player not a starter, he knows the system and can be decent depth. But that's it imo. |
And, to be fair, he looked pretty solid on special teams late in the season. Says something about a dude to take that kind of demotion and keeps getting after it. |
if he couldn't play on ST then he wouldn't play at all. Other teams know this, and I doubt they will be lining up to sing a ST player.
As for knowing the system, what good did that do? Time to let new players have a chance, let jarvis walk. |
It's a benefit to know the system and culture. I'm not saying it's a huge deal but there is benefit to it. And if he comes dirt cheap I'll take him back as a special teamer and depth if there isn't a upgrade out there. |
with all the players available, there most certainly are options other than jarvis . Wait and see though  |
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FourThreeMafia 
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 63655 Location: East of Sixburgh
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Jarvis is barely even "decent depth". He has like 5 or 6 games where he is decent. The other 10 are usually mediocre or worse. And he is pretty much always terrible as a pass rusher.
I dont want anything to do with Jarvis. Id rather take my chance with a UDFA than waste any more time with a guy who has show very little progression in 4 years. _________________
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Chieferific
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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What FA Edge rusher did you think they were going to add that was going to be meaningful? |
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warfelg 
Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Posts: 3564 Location: Richmond Va
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Chieferific wrote: | What FA Edge rusher did you think they were going to add that was going to be meaningful? |
James Harrison  _________________
jebrick wrote: | Quote: | Jarvis Jones signs with Steelers |
Hahahahaha.
Jones' only chance is to go to Tenn. Otherwise he is flipping burgers this fall. |
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warfelg 
Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Posts: 3564 Location: Richmond Va
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Chieferific wrote: | What FA Edge rusher did you think they were going to add that was going to be meaningful? |
Honest responses:
I would take a flier on Conner Barwin who's only 30
Alex Okafor is only 26, coming off an injured year, played in a 3-4 his entire career.
Datone Jones is out there, and despite declining stats could see a resurgence. _________________
jebrick wrote: | Quote: | Jarvis Jones signs with Steelers |
Hahahahaha.
Jones' only chance is to go to Tenn. Otherwise he is flipping burgers this fall. |
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FourThreeMafia 
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 63655 Location: East of Sixburgh
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Chieferific wrote: | What FA Edge rusher did you think they were going to add that was going to be meaningful? |
Exactly. All of the impact pass rushers were franchised tagged.
Same kind of goes for CB. Not that there werent some CBs that couldve really helped, but the Steelers were never going to pay elite money for merely good CBs...nor should they.
As Ive said....not a really good FA class for our needs.
The only FA Im disappointed we didnt pursue a bit harder is Brandon Marshall. _________________
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CanadianSteeler
Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 329 Location: Valleyfield, Quebec & Edmonton Alberta
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I would let Jones walk. Although as 43 stated...he has 5-6 games where he looks like it has clicked, then is absent.
I would roll with Chick...he is an arrow pointing up, and while he is not a stud, I think he could get even better with more playing time. In reality, a committee with Deebo is what I see with Dupree playing the other side. I'm perfectly fine with this... we draft a edge rusher in the first 3 rounds and let him compete...plus we have Moats - who like chick has his limitations but if its a rotation so be it.... we need speed on the edge....otherwise we end up like last year....
Jones has proven he can't get to the rusher... I'm not saying we will fair better with the guys on the roster, but we can't do much worse... let chick play some ... and draft someone... Jones had his 4 years... |
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3rivers
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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warfelg wrote: | Chieferific wrote: | What FA Edge rusher did you think they were going to add that was going to be meaningful? |
James Harrison  |
I think he was asking what full time FA edge rusher
I thought this year was good for CB's in UFA, not sure about Edge though. This draft is said to deep for Edge , and decent for CB. That is why I was thinking along the lines of UFA CB and then CB RD1, Edge RD2 and RD5 . Price is projected in later rounds. |
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