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Cadmus


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HorizontoZenith wrote:
No way in hell I'd give up our first round pick for Butler. So sick of having corners barely faster than our linebackers. I also don't want to give New England a first round pick.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer giving TT and co. the choice of what's likely to be a deep crop of potential impact players at 1.29.

The draft is shaping up to give us Butler's production at the fraction of the cost and with twice the upside.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HorizontoZenith wrote:
No way in hell I'd give up our first round pick for Butler. So sick of having corners barely faster than our linebackers. I also don't want to give New England a first round pick.


Bingo. I'm also incredibly skeptical of how good he'd be outside of NE for obvious reasons. Doing something like this is just massively out of character for GB

Give up the 29th overall pick for Butler....and have to give him a monster contract extension(he said he wanted at least Gilmore money)

vs

Using that 1st rd pick on a CB(in a deep CB draft) who you can control for at least 4 yrs on a cheap rookie deal


Hmmmm, tough choice
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralFC wrote:
I prefer giving TT and co. the choice of what's likely to be a deep crop of potential impact players at 1.29.

The draft is shaping up to give us Butler's production at the fraction of the cost and with twice the upside.

And a lot more athleticism, too. I had no idea Butler ran a 4.62

I've had enough corners running in the 4.6 range to last me a lifetime in Dom's defense. Yeah, yeah, I know the 40 isn't everything, but it's a good ballpark figure to determine athleticism.

It also makes me certain that a better coordinator/coach could have gotten more out of last year's secondary.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah no chance I am remotely interested in giving up a first and a large contract for Butler. Makes no sense.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draft is too loaded at corner to give up the pick...especially considering the cash that will go to Butler, and ultimately away from other homegrown talent that we know TT loves.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HorizontoZenith wrote:
CentralFC wrote:
I prefer giving TT and co. the choice of what's likely to be a deep crop of potential impact players at 1.29.

The draft is shaping up to give us Butler's production at the fraction of the cost and with twice the upside.

And a lot more athleticism, too. I had no idea Butler ran a 4.62

I've had enough corners running in the 4.6 range to last me a lifetime in Dom's defense. Yeah, yeah, I know the 40 isn't everything, but it's a good ballpark figure to determine athleticism.

It also makes me certain that a better coordinator/coach could have gotten more out of last year's secondary.


Yeah, agree. Lost me on your last point there, but I agree with adding some speed and pop on the boundary.

I still would like Jourdan Lewis in 2.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HorizontoZenith wrote:
CentralFC wrote:
I prefer giving TT and co. the choice of what's likely to be a deep crop of potential impact players at 1.29.

The draft is shaping up to give us Butler's production at the fraction of the cost and with twice the upside.

And a lot more athleticism, too. I had no idea Butler ran a 4.62

I've had enough corners running in the 4.6 range to last me a lifetime in Dom's defense. Yeah, yeah, I know the 40 isn't everything, but it's a good ballpark figure to determine athleticism.

It also makes me certain that a better coordinator/coach could have gotten more out of last year's secondary.


Those numbers are bogus. That's not a 4.6+ athlete.
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