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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:50 pm    Post subject: Barry Church signs with Jaguars, 4 yrs 6M+ per Reply with quote

Rapsheet just tweeted it.

First domino to fall.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That means no Adams.. He was ranked number 11 out of 64 safeties that played last year that is by PFF.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That means no Adams.. He was ranked number 11 out of 64 safeties that played last year that is by PFF.


He's an upgrade over Cyp. That's all that matters.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently Barry Church played with a broken arm once...there's that "Coughlin toughness" we keep hearing about.

Like what I'm reading. Most Cowboys fans I read on social media are pretty sad to see him go. Was a leader on that defense (believe he was a captain on D).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They kind of set the market for Cyp too he won't make over 6 mill.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They kind of set the market for Cyp too he won't make over 6 mill.


Ehh, don't be surprised man. He's young and because the Jaguars hid him most seem to think he had a good year. I bet he gets right around this if not more, especially if he waits til after Tony Jefferson gets 10M+.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.Buzz wrote:
Apparently Barry Church played with a broken arm once...there's that "Coughlin toughness" we keep hearing about.

Like what I'm reading. Most Cowboys fans I read on social media are pretty sad to see him go. Was a leader on that defense (believe he was a captain on D).


Church is an underrated SS, IMO. He's an old-school Box safety that rarely misses tackles (dude's got textbook form....even brought Marshawn down one-on-one), durable (will play through pain) and has high character. There's a reason he was a Captain of the defense. Sad to see him leave Dallas, but am happy that he's getting paid. You guys got a rock-steady player at a good price.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DuvalsKing wrote:
They kind of set the market for Cyp too he won't make over 6 mill.


I've seen a few things indicating that that's pretty close to what the market for Cyp is. In that 6ish range. Which would be hilarious if we got Church for Cyp money.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.Buzz wrote:
Apparently Barry Church played with a broken arm once...there's that "Coughlin toughness" we keep hearing about.

Like what I'm reading. Most Cowboys fans I read on social media are pretty sad to see him go. Was a leader on that defense (believe he was a captain on D).


Church is an underrated SS, IMO. He's an old-school Box safety that rarely misses tackles (dude's got textbook form....even brought Marshawn down one-on-one), durable (will play through pain) and has high character. There's a reason he was a Captain of the defense. Sad to see him leave Dallas, but am happy that he's getting paid. You guys got a rock-steady player at a good price.


Thanks for the insight.

I keep seeing Cowboys fans pretty much echoing this everywhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so glad I don't have to watch Cyp anymore. Pointing to the sky after every tackle. Lmao

Hopefully Church works out for us. Seems like a good addition to the back end.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KhanYouDigIt wrote:
I'm so glad I don't have to watch Cyp anymore. Pointing to the sky after every tackle. Lmao

Hopefully Church works out for us. Seems like a good addition to the back end.


Who knows, but as you said, Cyp was way too big of a liability in coverage. Barry Church seems like an upgrade in that regard even though he's more of a thumper/box safety. In the very least we get better in coverage in some capacity.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like him as a player. Just wish we could get some guys in the secondary that can force turnovers. But he should be a sizable upgrade over what we've had, probably since Darius.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just look back at Church's 2014 stat line verses the Giants in both games, Coughlin has been watching him ball for the last few years he knows what he brings to the table.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iPwn wrote:
I like him as a player. Just wish we could get some guys in the secondary that can force turnovers. But he should be a sizable upgrade over what we've had, probably since Darius.


I'm with you here. Church seems to make some clutch plays when needed, but yeah he isn't going to be a guy causing turnovers everywhere.

This is the one reason although I'd be cool with Prince coming back, we really need to get a corner oppo Ramsey that can be a ballhawk/turnover machine. Bouye would be so ideal (although doesn't have a great tack record) or Gillmore (who isn't coming here...he hates Marrone after leaving BUF).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully this means Solomon Thomas or Jonathan Allen at 4. Probably going to be Fournette though.
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