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TVScout


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrry32 wrote:
JMO, but I think the way they do 40s is stupid. You are trying to assess how fast a guy gets from Point A to Point B. Find a way to video it and break it down exactly instead of having these stupid first movement rules that misrepresent the actual time.


FWIH the 40 was added because special team coaches wanted to see which late round prospects were candidates for kick off and and punt coverage.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jrry32 wrote:
JMO, but I think the way they do 40s is stupid. You are trying to assess how fast a guy gets from Point A to Point B. Find a way to video it and break it down exactly instead of having these stupid first movement rules that misrepresent the actual time.


I don't mind it, but I never really understood the point of not doing it from a 2 point stance to start.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldman9er wrote:
jrry32 wrote:
JMO, but I think the way they do 40s is stupid. You are trying to assess how fast a guy gets from Point A to Point B. Find a way to video it and break it down exactly instead of having these stupid first movement rules that misrepresent the actual time.


I don't mind it, but I never really understood the point of not doing it from a 2 point stance to start.


Explosion. This way will get you a better time. Also, the reason why form is important and they make you get your hand up and stuck for 2 seconds is so there's no momentum.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iowa WR Riley McCarron (5-9, 185) 4.36 and 4.38 seconds in the 40, a 4.01- and 3.99-second short shuttle, a 6.57-second three-cone, a 40.5-inch vertical, and a 10-4 broad jump. Slot receiver prospect.

Iowa TE George Kittle 38.5 vert, 6.78 3-cone.

West Virginia WR Shelton Gibson was clocked at a 4.38 40.

Boise State WR Thomas Sperbeck clocked at 4.47 40, 4.03 short shuttle, 6.73 3-cone and caught everything.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Groink wrote:
Iowa WR Riley McCarron (5-9, 185) 4.36 and 4.38 seconds in the 40, a 4.01- and 3.99-second short shuttle, a 6.57-second three-cone, a 40.5-inch vertical, and a 10-4 broad jump. Slot receiver prospect.

Iowa TE George Kittle 38.5 vert, 6.78 3-cone.

West Virginia WR Shelton Gibson was clocked at a 4.38 40.

Boise State WR Thomas Sperbeck clocked at 4.47 40, 4.03 short shuttle, 6.73 3-cone and caught everything.


That 40 time for Gibson is what I thought he would do at the combine, but I don't know if I trust it.

Kittle is going to get drafted in the late 3rd at this rate.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kittle my goodness... Not just the straight line speed but the agility also...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kittle my goodness... Not just the straight line speed but the agility also...

And the blocking!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kittles putting up freak numbers. You wonder with his speed if he could be a low to mid 4.4 guy if he dropped 15lbs and still be a huge WR (not that he's from a pass happy enough offence to show that)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That athletic ability plus his blocking I think he should be up there for TE 2 discussion. He has great hands also.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lark25 wrote:
Kittles putting up freak numbers. You wonder with his speed if he could be a low to mid 4.4 guy if he dropped 15lbs and still be a huge WR (not that he's from a pass happy enough offence to show that)


Why would you ever want to do that? He's the best blocking TE in the draft. There are plenty of big WRs or move TEs that can be pass catchers. Kittle has a clear role that he excels in, with upside to become a complete TE. He's probably my favorite value at TE in the draft, even though I like Howard and Engram better in terms of their current contributions.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Iowa's Pro Day was overlooked: http://www.goiowaawesome.com/iowa-hawkeyes-football/2017/03/1309/2017-iowa-pro-day-recap-desmond-king-leshun-daniels-and-riley-mccarron-are-speedy

Some of the players really impressed. George Kittle improved his VJ by 3.5". The other TE Jake Duzey, who had a knee injury, ran a 4.62 40.

Jaleel Johnson, how had a pretty bad Combine, improved, but still has pretty bad numbers overall. His 40 time dropped to a 5.08, but he also cut down to 299 lbs. His BJ was improved by an inch.

Desmond King ran a 4.51 40.

Riley McCarron ran a 4.36 40, but his entire workout was quite good. At 5'9" 188 lbs, he ran a 3.96 20S, 6.47 3C, jumped a 10'4" BJ, and a 40.5" VJ. Those are some eye-popping numbers.

CJ Beathard proved he is quite athletic.

The way the NFL Draft community has underrated the athleticism of Iowa prospects basically across the board is criminal.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DraftHobbyist wrote:
I think Iowa's Pro Day was overlooked: http://www.goiowaawesome.com/iowa-hawkeyes-football/2017/03/1309/2017-iowa-pro-day-recap-desmond-king-leshun-daniels-and-riley-mccarron-are-speedy

Some of the players really impressed. George Kittle improved his VJ by 3.5". The other TE Jake Duzey, who had a knee injury, ran a 4.62 40.

Jaleel Johnson, how had a pretty bad Combine, improved, but still has pretty bad numbers overall. His 40 time dropped to a 5.08, but he also cut down to 299 lbs. His BJ was improved by an inch.

Desmond King ran a 4.51 40.

Riley McCarron ran a 4.36 40, but his entire workout was quite good. At 5'9" 188 lbs, he ran a 3.96 20S, 6.47 3C, jumped a 10'4" BJ, and a 40.5" VJ. Those are some eye-popping numbers.

CJ Beathard proved he is quite athletic.

The way the NFL Draft community has underrated the athleticism of Iowa prospects basically across the board is criminal.

Should probably not go for the abbreviation there

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DraftHobbyist wrote:
His BJ was improved by an inch.



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DraftHobbyist wrote:
The way the NFL Draft community has underrated the athleticism of Iowa prospects basically across the board is criminal.



So youre an Iowa fan, cool.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bananabucket wrote:
DraftHobbyist wrote:
The way the NFL Draft community has underrated the athleticism of Iowa prospects basically across the board is criminal.



So youre an Iowa fan, cool.


No, I'm a Wisconsin fan. Did you look at the times? Iowa is one of the best pipelines for the NFL, has been for a long time, and yet people don't even give these guys a shot. If Kittle was playing for Alabama and tested the way he did he'd be a 1st Round lock.
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