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Which FA would you take?
Bouye
47%
 47%  [ 8 ]
Gilmore
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Hightower
23%
 23%  [ 4 ]
Jeffery
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
Jefferson
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Poe
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Pryor
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Williams
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other CB
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deeluxx3 wrote:
Regarding Pryor, something to ponder...


A guy with throwing capabilities that Mularkey loved to use in Pitt: Antwan Randle El


That is what makes me think Murlakey wants him. We also have a history of going after players that played well against us.
Pryor made some plays when the Browns lost to us.

If his character checks out, then I see us going after him.


PS. Garcon to the Niners.
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KingTitan wrote:
PS. Garcon to the Niners.


Edit: NEvermind... the numbers I posted where his last contract with the 'Skins... contract details not available (except that he'll get more his 1st season with this new year [~16M] than he did his previous deal [~13M])

5/42.5M... 8.5M per

and the WR market has been set.

I still maintain that Pryor, DJax, and Stills will get 10-12M... and Jeffery will be even higher... 13-14M per

(This is without looking at guarantees, etc... just total per year contracts).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingTitan wrote:
deeluxx3 wrote:
Regarding Pryor, something to ponder...


A guy with throwing capabilities that Mularkey loved to use in Pitt: Antwan Randle El


That is what makes me think Murlakey wants him. We also have a history of going after players that played well against us.
Pryor made some plays when the Browns lost to us.

If his character checks out, then I see us going after him.


PS. Garcon to the Niners.


I've been talking about the trick plays we could run with TP for like 6 months Laughing

Also glad Kyle went after his buddy Garcon. Never a big fan of his tbh.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saints may screw the pooch on the Cooks trade. The moment free agency starts and they haven't accepted something, their leverage with interested teams is going to bottom out.

Say the Eagles sign Alshon, we sign Pryor, the Niners are getting Garcon for big money in year 1... who's left? The Patriots? They aren't forking over more than #32 anyhow. I suppose a surprise team with a higher pick could always jump in, but clock is ticking and if they haven't gotten a better offer yet they likely won't once FA dominoes start to fall.
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KingTitan wrote:
deeluxx3 wrote:
Regarding Pryor, something to ponder...


A guy with throwing capabilities that Mularkey loved to use in Pitt: Antwan Randle El


That is what makes me think Murlakey wants him. We also have a history of going after players that played well against us.
Pryor made some plays when the Browns lost to us.

If his character checks out, then I see us going after him.


PS. Garcon to the Niners.


I was wondering if we'd be interested in a guy like Dobbs for that exact reason in the draft. Pryor obviously brings far more to the team than Dobbs, just speaking in regards to finding that "gadget" player that can run those later WR screen things we like to do with Harry Douglas for some reason. Dobbs had the 3rd best QB rating on deep passes in the country last year and has really good athleticism and decent enough hands.

Pryor would certainly be a more ideal person to fill that role though.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I mentioned this yesterday, but wasn't last year's tampering period filled with leaks about Player X agreeing to terms with Team X?

The last 26 hours have just been so uneventful.
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titans0021 wrote:
I know I mentioned this yesterday, but wasn't last year's tampering period filled with leaks about Player X agreeing to terms with Team X?

The last 26 hours have just been so uneventful.


Yeah... it's been disappointing... I thought we'd be getting leaks left and right about deals already in place. I know the Titans have been much tighter with leaks since Robinson took over, but I thought at least some of the other teams would be leaking their info/deals.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragevsuall17 wrote:
.Buzz wrote:
Titans fan 617 wrote:
VY wrote:
RE: Bouye.... good odds he stays in the AFC South it seems.

@AaronWilson_NFL wrote:
Among the teams expected to be extremely competitive for A.J. Bouye: Texans, Titans, Jaguars, Colts, 49ers, Browns


Colts are probably the biggest competition if he's looking at who has the QB situations. If it comes down to money which it normally does Jags make sense since they don't have a clue on how to build a team since they just throw boat loads of cash at everyone


Yet we have the 3rd most cap in the league and structure contracts to which we can cut them in two years with no more money obligations if they fail...

May as well keep throwing money at players and hope our QB situation figures itself out and build the talent level around him. Wouldn't say we don't know how to build a team, just in the dark abyss of QB play for the last decade...that's what happens.


Cuz that's worked so well for you guys so far... lol.

I think the league has shown that it takes a specially talented team to make it anywhere without a QB. The Broncos during Manning's last year is a prime example (although even as limited as he was physically that season, his mental game was always through the roof). The Jags have some individual talent (not more than any average team), but ultimately, I just don't see a "team" there. Maybe Coughlin can finally help fix that.

Saw an article last week on the Jags (think it was a snapshot of all teams)... can't remember where... but it said something along the lines of... in this age of parity, it takes a special kind if ineptitude to go so long without being able to crack 6 wins. I chalk that up to a lack of leadership up to the very top... and why there's a chance for change with the Coughlin hire. We had been having the same kind of problems here in TN... since the days of Fisher/Reese/Underwoood... seemed they all kept each other in check. Once Reese was gone, Fisher had all kinds of control, and little by little lost the team, and everything became office politics. Robinson seems to have fixed that... giving the team a sense of competency in the FO.


It hasn't worked. No doubt about that. But why not continue to do it and hope you hit like the Giants last year? No reason to sit on 80M in cap, especially when the talent level is close to being able to compete IF they have decent QB play.

With the cap rising and continually structuring contracts like we have, may as well keep trying to hit in FA. Malik Jackson is a building block on defense we got last year in FA and has been worth what we paid him so far. Plus, hopefully with a new man running things/new coaching staff we actually play to players strengths instead of fitting them into the scheme like we have done. Dan Skuta starting over Myles Jack last year is perfect evidence of just that.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.Buzz wrote:
ragevsuall17 wrote:
.Buzz wrote:
Titans fan 617 wrote:
VY wrote:
RE: Bouye.... good odds he stays in the AFC South it seems.

@AaronWilson_NFL wrote:
Among the teams expected to be extremely competitive for A.J. Bouye: Texans, Titans, Jaguars, Colts, 49ers, Browns


Colts are probably the biggest competition if he's looking at who has the QB situations. If it comes down to money which it normally does Jags make sense since they don't have a clue on how to build a team since they just throw boat loads of cash at everyone


Yet we have the 3rd most cap in the league and structure contracts to which we can cut them in two years with no more money obligations if they fail...

May as well keep throwing money at players and hope our QB situation figures itself out and build the talent level around him. Wouldn't say we don't know how to build a team, just in the dark abyss of QB play for the last decade...that's what happens.


Cuz that's worked so well for you guys so far... lol.

I think the league has shown that it takes a specially talented team to make it anywhere without a QB. The Broncos during Manning's last year is a prime example (although even as limited as he was physically that season, his mental game was always through the roof). The Jags have some individual talent (not more than any average team), but ultimately, I just don't see a "team" there. Maybe Coughlin can finally help fix that.

Saw an article last week on the Jags (think it was a snapshot of all teams)... can't remember where... but it said something along the lines of... in this age of parity, it takes a special kind if ineptitude to go so long without being able to crack 6 wins. I chalk that up to a lack of leadership up to the very top... and why there's a chance for change with the Coughlin hire. We had been having the same kind of problems here in TN... since the days of Fisher/Reese/Underwoood... seemed they all kept each other in check. Once Reese was gone, Fisher had all kinds of control, and little by little lost the team, and everything became office politics. Robinson seems to have fixed that... giving the team a sense of competency in the FO.


It hasn't worked. No doubt about that. But why not continue to do it and hope you hit like the Giants last year? No reason to sit on 80M in cap, especially when the talent level is close to being able to compete IF they have decent QB play.

With the cap rising and continually structuring contracts like we have, may as well keep trying to hit in FA. Malik Jackson is a building block on defense we got last year in FA and has been worth what we paid him so far. Plus, hopefully with a new man running things/new coaching staff we actually play to players strengths instead of fitting them into the scheme like we have done. Dan Skuta starting over Myles Jack last year is perfect evidence of just that.


Free Agency is a part of building a team no doubt but from the outside looking in I have no idea who are your building blocks going forward. Allan Robinson Jalyen Ramsey for sure but no QB drafted a RB then signed another. Groomed a TE signed and traded a TE. Threw tons of cash at players on D who probably wernt worth it. But Ramsey was a great pick a player i wish we had
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Titans fan 617 wrote:
.Buzz wrote:
ragevsuall17 wrote:
.Buzz wrote:
Titans fan 617 wrote:
VY wrote:
RE: Bouye.... good odds he stays in the AFC South it seems.

@AaronWilson_NFL wrote:
Among the teams expected to be extremely competitive for A.J. Bouye: Texans, Titans, Jaguars, Colts, 49ers, Browns


Colts are probably the biggest competition if he's looking at who has the QB situations. If it comes down to money which it normally does Jags make sense since they don't have a clue on how to build a team since they just throw boat loads of cash at everyone


Yet we have the 3rd most cap in the league and structure contracts to which we can cut them in two years with no more money obligations if they fail...

May as well keep throwing money at players and hope our QB situation figures itself out and build the talent level around him. Wouldn't say we don't know how to build a team, just in the dark abyss of QB play for the last decade...that's what happens.


Cuz that's worked so well for you guys so far... lol.

I think the league has shown that it takes a specially talented team to make it anywhere without a QB. The Broncos during Manning's last year is a prime example (although even as limited as he was physically that season, his mental game was always through the roof). The Jags have some individual talent (not more than any average team), but ultimately, I just don't see a "team" there. Maybe Coughlin can finally help fix that.

Saw an article last week on the Jags (think it was a snapshot of all teams)... can't remember where... but it said something along the lines of... in this age of parity, it takes a special kind if ineptitude to go so long without being able to crack 6 wins. I chalk that up to a lack of leadership up to the very top... and why there's a chance for change with the Coughlin hire. We had been having the same kind of problems here in TN... since the days of Fisher/Reese/Underwoood... seemed they all kept each other in check. Once Reese was gone, Fisher had all kinds of control, and little by little lost the team, and everything became office politics. Robinson seems to have fixed that... giving the team a sense of competency in the FO.


It hasn't worked. No doubt about that. But why not continue to do it and hope you hit like the Giants last year? No reason to sit on 80M in cap, especially when the talent level is close to being able to compete IF they have decent QB play.

With the cap rising and continually structuring contracts like we have, may as well keep trying to hit in FA. Malik Jackson is a building block on defense we got last year in FA and has been worth what we paid him so far. Plus, hopefully with a new man running things/new coaching staff we actually play to players strengths instead of fitting them into the scheme like we have done. Dan Skuta starting over Myles Jack last year is perfect evidence of just that.


Free Agency is a part of building a team no doubt but from the outside looking in I have no idea who are your building blocks going forward. Allan Robinson Jalyen Ramsey for sure but no QB drafted a RB then signed another. Groomed a TE signed and traded a TE. Threw tons of cash at players on D who probably wernt worth it. But Ramsey was a great pick a player i wish we had


Jalen Ramsey, Allen Robinson, Telvin Smith, and Malik Jackson I would characterize as premier level players who are going to be keys to getting this turned around. There are several other young players like Hurns, Marqise Lee, Abry Jones, and Myles Jack who have shown/have the potential to also be key pieces.

But again, as far as throwing cash around, why not? If you have all this cap space and structure contracts how they have why not take shots on guys and hope they stick? We did that with Sen'Derrick Marks and he provided a couple very good years with one of the years playing as probably a top 3-5 3T in the NFL. Malik Jackson, Roy Miller, and Prince Amukamara have been hits too.

Even with being generally the top spender in FA these last few years, we haven't had any young guys to lock up so we've consistently been top 3 in cap. I just don't see the harm in it. If they bust, you cut them and lose out on anything. If they hit, then great.

When you look at the players we signed outside of Odrick (who was solid, just overpaid), Parnell (been an average RT, can't complain), Malik Jackson, Julius Thomas, and Chris Ivory most have just been depth/kicking the tires on to see what happens. Only blatant busts that we paid solid money for were Davon House and Zane Beadles, neither of which were highly regarded prior for the most part.
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ragevsuall17 wrote:
titans0021 wrote:
I know I mentioned this yesterday, but wasn't last year's tampering period filled with leaks about Player X agreeing to terms with Team X?

The last 26 hours have just been so uneventful.


Yeah... it's been disappointing... I thought we'd be getting leaks left and right about deals already in place. I know the Titans have been much tighter with leaks since Robinson took over, but I thought at least some of the other teams would be leaking their info/deals.


It's really been dry since Wyatt left the Tennesseean. No one else in Nashville(or even in the country) has any kind of inside intel. It's insane, I dunno if any other team in the NFL has as tight lipped an organization as we do without Wyatt leaking from his contact.
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TitanLegend wrote:
ragevsuall17 wrote:
titans0021 wrote:
I know I mentioned this yesterday, but wasn't last year's tampering period filled with leaks about Player X agreeing to terms with Team X?

The last 26 hours have just been so uneventful.


Yeah... it's been disappointing... I thought we'd be getting leaks left and right about deals already in place. I know the Titans have been much tighter with leaks since Robinson took over, but I thought at least some of the other teams would be leaking their info/deals.


It's really been dry since Wyatt left the Tennesseean. No one else in Nashville(or even in the country) has any kind of inside intel. It's insane, I dunno if any other team in the NFL has as tight lipped an organization as we do without Wyatt leaking from his contact.


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Dwayne Allen traded to the Patriots
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TitanLegend wrote:
ragevsuall17 wrote:
titans0021 wrote:
I know I mentioned this yesterday, but wasn't last year's tampering period filled with leaks about Player X agreeing to terms with Team X?

The last 26 hours have just been so uneventful.


Yeah... it's been disappointing... I thought we'd be getting leaks left and right about deals already in place. I know the Titans have been much tighter with leaks since Robinson took over, but I thought at least some of the other teams would be leaking their info/deals.


It's really been dry since Wyatt left the Tennesseean. No one else in Nashville(or even in the country) has any kind of inside intel. It's insane, I dunno if any other team in the NFL has as tight lipped an organization as we do without Wyatt leaking from his contact.
I know Wyatt was great at his job and I don't mean to downplay his ability, but part of me does wonder if part of the team's interest in hiring him was to close up their one leak.
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As people have been interested in Kendricks... If other things (like Hightower) fall through could be an option. Hard to see us keeping Woodyard if we add a higher priced FA at ILB.

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Eagles continuing to explore trade interest in Connor Barwin and Mychal Kendricks, according to league sources. Both could be cut otherwise
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