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Bolts223


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:46 pm    Post subject: Is Big Ben going to retire? Reply with quote

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap3000000778769/Should-we-take-Ben-Roethlisberger-s-possible-retirement-seriously
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubt it. He is clearly declining and has gotten his butt kicked his entire career, but he still has 2-3 years of above average play imo.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Ben.

I take this as seriously as I do when he's milking an injury that he says could keep him out of Ravens-Steelers week.

I think what IS serious is that he'd not happy with Todd Haley. I think a lot of that is warranted. Haley has not been a good play caller and isn't good at utilizing his best players. This has been an offense that has wildly underachieved turning yard into points, specifically.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wackywabbit wrote:
It's Ben.

I take this as seriously as I do when he's milking an injury that he says could keep him out of Ravens-Steelers week.

Exactly. Dude just likes the attention.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prove all the haters wrong Ben and retire!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's possible. Two reasons.
1. His body is breaking down and it's been breaking down for a while.

wackywabbit wrote:
I take this as seriously as I do when he's milking an injury that he says could keep him out of Ravens-Steelers week.


This to me is missing the forest for the trees. When does this happen? It always happens. Why does it always happen? Because he's always hurt. He has one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. Doesn't matter, still can't stay healthy.


2. Antonio Brown trade rumors. Do you think Ben Roethlisberger wants to come back for his 14th season with Eli Rogers and Sammie Coates as his top two receivers? If Brown gets dealt, Ben could look at the Steelers offense and decide it's just not worth coming back. Tbh, I have to wonder if this isn't Ben's way of warning the Steelers organization what could happen if they deal Brown.
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Crickett wrote:
wackywabbit wrote:
I take this as seriously as I do when he's milking an injury that he says could keep him out of Ravens-Steelers week.


This to me is missing the forest for the trees. When does this happen? It always happens. Why does it always happen? Because he's always hurt. He has one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. Doesn't matter, still can't stay healthy.

It's not because he always plays hurt. Everyone does that. It's because he always plays up every injury as really serious, then comes back "early". It's posturing for the fans. And that's what he's doing here too.
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Crickett wrote:
I think it's possible. Two reasons.
1. His body is breaking down and it's been breaking down for a while.

wackywabbit wrote:
I take this as seriously as I do when he's milking an injury that he says could keep him out of Ravens-Steelers week.


This to me is missing the forest for the trees. When does this happen? It always happens. Why does it always happen? Because he's always hurt. He has one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. Doesn't matter, still can't stay healthy.


2. Antonio Brown trade rumors. Do you think Ben Roethlisberger wants to come back for his 14th season with Eli Rogers and Sammie Coates as his top two receivers? If Brown gets dealt, Ben could look at the Steelers offense and decide it's just not worth coming back. Tbh, I have to wonder if this isn't Ben's way of warning the Steelers organization what could happen if they deal Brown.


1. Big ben isn't retiring because of the injuries (even though there are a ton and they've added up) he's saying it because he wants people to talk about him/he'll use this for leverage for something in the future he wants from the steelers. If he really wanted to retire because of the injuries, he would've retired a while ago.

2. He would owe about half of his most recent contract extension's signing bonus (about 18.5 million) back to the steelers if he retired, I doubt he'd want to pay that back.

3. Antonio Brown isn't going to be traded they're just rumors, The Steelers FO isn't the brightest in the world but you don't trade the league's best receiver when you're trying to win a Superbowl.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theJ wrote:
Crickett wrote:
wackywabbit wrote:
I take this as seriously as I do when he's milking an injury that he says could keep him out of Ravens-Steelers week.


This to me is missing the forest for the trees. When does this happen? It always happens. Why does it always happen? Because he's always hurt. He has one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. Doesn't matter, still can't stay healthy.

It's not because he always plays hurt. Everyone does that. It's because he always plays up every injury as really serious, then comes back "early". It's posturing for the fans. And that's what he's doing here too.


Yeah, the Emmitt Smith thing. Every 3 weeks he suffers the "worst" injury of his career and doesn't even miss a start. Get carted off the field with 2 minutes to go until half giving the thumbs up and starts the second half. They are warriors. Almost super-human. Or maybe they ham it up.


Tomlin said that Ben has said all this before. He'll make 46 million over the next 3 years, he probably won't leave that behind. He has made plenty of money so he could but I seriously doubt that he will.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OleXmad wrote:

3. Antonio Brown isn't going to be traded they're just rumors, The Steelers FO isn't the brightest in the world but you don't trade the league's best receiver when you're trying to win a Superbowl.


I don't think they trade Brown either but if they do it is because he is a selfish player and a borderline idiot. Maybe do a player for player trade with Brown, trade him straight up for TY Hilton who is a little younger and signed for a few more years.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theJ wrote:
wackywabbit wrote:
It's Ben.

I take this as seriously as I do when he's milking an injury that he says could keep him out of Ravens-Steelers week.

Exactly. Dude just likes the attention.


I'm a 50+ year Browns fan, I can't stand the Steelers, but nonetheless, I respect the hell out of them.

I don't think that Ben R. has ever been an "attention seeker."

He is a grinder that has played at a high level for a long time.

As some are stating in the Steelers forum, he hasn't always been blessed with the best offensive line, and has paid the price, physically, on ocassion for that.

If you ask me, he's a damned fine football player, that following a few issues earlier in his career has pretty much kept quiet, and just continued to perform.

I just don't see the "attention seeker" there. (I don't read the Pittsburgh media very frequently, but I certainly haven't seen much "look at me" from him in the national media.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You play professional football to make money. You retire when you've made enough money to live comfortably. You continue to play when you have to spend $18 million to retire.

Short answer is no.
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Bucketheadsdad wrote:
theJ wrote:
wackywabbit wrote:
It's Ben.

I take this as seriously as I do when he's milking an injury that he says could keep him out of Ravens-Steelers week.

Exactly. Dude just likes the attention.


I'm a 50+ year Browns fan, I can't stand the Steelers, but nonetheless, I respect the hell out of them.

I don't think that Ben R. has ever been an "attention seeker."

He is a grinder that has played at a high level for a long time.

As some are stating in the Steelers forum, he hasn't always been blessed with the best offensive line, and has paid the price, physically, on ocassion for that.

If you ask me, he's a damned fine football player, that following a few issues earlier in his career has pretty much kept quiet, and just continued to perform.

I just don't see the "attention seeker" there. (I don't read the Pittsburgh media very frequently, but I certainly haven't seen much "look at me" from him in the national media.


I respect the hell out of Ben as a player. For a long time, he has been the last QB I would want to face in a big game (and this year certainly didn't change that opinion Sad).

But, he's definitely an attention seeker.
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