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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:04 pm    Post subject: Full Offseason Mock Draft v2 Reply with quote

2nd version of the mock draft. Again I'm doing the full offseason. The cap number I had last time is now looking pretty realistic, though it could end up being as high as $170,000,000. I'm going to keep at $166,000,000 for now until we get a concrete number. I'm going to try to do some things a little different than the last one. The financial information will be even more specific this time considering we know the exact pick for many of the Lions draft picks, and thus what those contracts will project to be.


Unrestricted Free Agents
QB Dan Orlovsky --- 1 year, Veteran Minimum
TE Tim Wright --- 1 Year, Veteran Minimum
OT Riley Reiff --- 5 years, $32,500,000 Total Worth, $15,000,000 Guaranteed, $4,500,000 First Year Cap Hit
DE Armonty Bryant --- 1 Year, Veteran Minimum
LB Josh Bynes --- 1 year, Veteran Minimum
LB Jon Bostic --- 1 year, Veteran Minimum
WR Anquan Boldin --- Enters Free Agency
OG Larry Warford --- Enters Free Agency
DE Devin Taylor --- Enters Free Agency
S Rafael Bush --- Enters Free Agency
RB Joique Bell --- Let Walk
WR Andre Roberts --- Let Walk
TE Matthew Mulligan --- Let Walk
TE Clay Harbor --- Let Walk
OL Garrett Reynolds --- Let Walk
DT Tyrunn Walker --- Let Walk
DT Stefan Charles --- Let Walk
CB Asa Jackson --- Let Walk
CB Crezdon Butler --- Let Walk
LS Don Muhlbach --- Retires

Restricted Free Agents
OT Cornelius Lucas (RFA) --- Original Round Tender
DT Khyri Thornton (RFA) --- Original Round Tender
WR TJ Jones (ERFA) --- Tendered
WR Jace Billingsley (ERFA) --- Tendered
DE Brandon Copeland (ERFA) --- Tendered
DE Kerry Hyder (ERFA) --- Tendered
CB Alex Carter (ERFA) --- Tendered
CB Adarius Barnes (ERFA) --- Tendered

Release
DT Haloti Ngata --- Savings of $5,750,000, Dead Money of $2,000,000

Extension
QB Matthew Stafford --- 5 Years, $125,000,000 Total Worth, $65,000,000 Guaranteed, $20,000,000 Adjusted First Year Cap Hit
DE Ezekiel Ansah --- 5 Years, $80,000,000 Total Worth, $40,000,000 Guaranteed, $14,000,000 Adjusted First Year Cap Hit

Free Agency
WR Brandon LaFell --- 2 Years, $6,000,000 Total Worth, $2,000,000 Guaranteed, $2,500,000 First Year Cap Hit
WR Cordarrelle Patterson --- 3 Years, $9,000,000 Total Worth, $3,000,000 Guaranteed, $2,000,000 First Year Cap Hit
TE Vernon Davis --- 3 Years, $9,000,000 Total Worth, $1,500,000 Guaranteed, $2,000,000 First Year Cap Hit
OL Ryan Wendell --- 1 Year, Veteran Minimum
OG TJ Lang --- 4 Years, $36,000,000 Total Worth, $20,000,000 Guaranteed, $7,000,000 First Year Cap Hit
DE Connor Barwin --- 3 years, $15,000,000 Total Worth, $5,000,000 Guaranteed, $4,000,000 First Year Cap Hit
DT Jonathan Hankins --- 5 year, $55,000,000 Total Worth, $20,000,000 Guaranteed, $8,000,000 First Year Cap Hit
DT Terrell McClain --- 3 Years, $12,000,000 Total Worth, $4,500,000 Guaranteed, $3,000,000 First Year Cap Hit
CB Prince Amukamara --- 3 Years, $16,500,000 Total Worth, $5,000,000 Guaranteed, $4,000,000 First Year Cap Hit
S Duron Harmon --- 3 years, $9,000,000 Total Worth, $1,500,000 Guaranteed, $2,000,000 First Year Cap Hit

Draft
1. EDGE Malik McDowell, Michigan State
2. LB Jarrad Davis, Florida
3. CB Gareon Conley, Ohio State
4. DT Charles Walker, Oklahoma
5. RB Corey Clement, Wisconsin
6. WR Taywan Taylor, Western Kentucky
6. TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland
7. LB Nick DeLuca, North Dakota State

UDFA
QB Tommy Armstrong Jr., Nebraska
WR Malik Adams, NC Wesleyan
OL Jordan Morgan, Kutztown
OT Cole Gardner, Eastern Michigan
C Joe Spencer, Illinois
EDGE Folarin Orimolade, Dartmouth
DL Roderick Henderson, Alabama State
DL Dylan Bradley, Southern Miss
DL Tueni Lupeamanu, Idaho
LB Deon Hollins, UCLA
CB Jeremy Cutrer, Middle Tennessee State
S Dorian Williams, Princeton

Roster (90)
Offense (44)
QB: Matthew Stafford - Dan Orlovsky - Jake Rudock - Tommy Armstrong Jr.
RB: Ameer Abdullah - Corey Clement - Theo Riddick - Zach Zenner - Dwayne Washington - Mike James
FB: Michael Burton
WR1: Marvin Jones - Cordarrelle Patterson - Ryan Spadola - Andrew Turzilli
WR2: Brandon LaFell - Taywan Taylor - Jared Abbrederis
SLOT WR: Golden Tate - TJ Jones - Jace Billingsley - Malik Adams
TE1: Eric Ebron - Vernon Davis - Adam Shaheen - Tim Wright - Cole Wick - Khari Lee - Kennard Backman

LT: Taylor Decker - Cole Gardner - Jordan Morgan
LG: Graham Glasgow - Laken Tomlinson - Matt Rotheram
C: Travis Swanson - Ryan Wendell - Joe Spencer
RG: TJ Lang - Joe Dahl - Brandon Thomas
RT: Riley Reiff - Corey Robinson - Cornelius Lucas

Defense (43)
WDE: Ezekiel Ansah - Connor Barwin - Anthony Zettel - Brandon Copeland
WDT: Jonathan Hankins - Terrell McClain - Dylan Bradley - Tueni Lupeamanu
SDT: A'Shawn Robinson - Charles Walker - Khyri Thornton - Roderick Henderson
SDE: Malik McDowell - Kerry Hyder - Armonty Bryant - Folarin Orimolade

WLB: DeAndre Levy - Nick DeLuca - Steve Longa - Thurston Armbrister
MLB: Jarrad Davis - Josh Bynes - Jon Bostic
SLB: Tahir Whitehead - Antwione Williams - Deon Hollins

RCB: Prince Amukamara - Gareon Conley - Adarius Barnes
FS: Glover Quin - Duron Harmon - Don Carey
SS: Tavon Wilson - Miles Killebrew - Dorian Williams
NB: Nevin Lawson - Quandre Diggs - Ian Wells - Charles Washington
LCB: Darius Slay - Johnson Bademosi - Alex Carter - Jeremy Cutrer

Special Teams (3)
K: Matt Prater
P: Sam Martin
LS: Jimmy Landes
KR: Cordarrelle Patterson





Salary Cap = $166,000,000
Rollover Cap Space = $8,198,724
Adjusted Cap Space = $174,198,724

Top 51 spending:
1. Matthew Stafford --- $20,000,000
2. Ezekiel Ansah --- $14,000,000
3. Darius Slay --- $10,700,000
4. Marvin Jones --- $8,600,000
5. DeAndre Levy --- $8,390,000
6. Golden Tate --- $8,351,250
7. Jonathan Hankins --- $8,000,000
8. Glover Quin --- $7,827,500
9. TJ Lang --- $7,000,000
10. Tahir Whitehead --- $4,750,000
11. Riley Reiff --- $4,500,000
12. Matt Prater --- $4,325,000
13. Connor Barwin --- $4,000,000
14. Prince Amukamara --- $4,000,000
15. Eric Ebron --- $3,897,455
16. Sam Martin --- $3,325,000
17. Terrell McClain --- $3,000,000
18. Brandon LaFell --- $2,500,000
19. Taylor Decker --- $2,492,495
20. Johnson Bademosi --- $2,350,000
21. Laken Tomlinson --- $2,331,885
22. Theo Riddick --- $2,187,500
23. Cordarrellle Patterson --- $2,000,000
24. Vernon Davis --- $2,000,000
25. Duron Harmon --- $2,000,000
26. Malik McDowell --- $1,984,942
27. Cornelius Lucas --- $1,323,000
28. Khyri Thornton -- $1,323,000
29. A'Shawn Robinson --- $1,189,462
30. Don Carey --- $1,162,500
31. Tavon Wilson --- $1,150,000
32. Ameer Abdullah --- $1,133,489
33. Travis Swanson --- $887,368
34. Jarrad Davis --- $874,301
35. Nevin Lawson --- $765,146
36. Graham Glasgow --- $719,855
37. Dan Orlovsky --- $695,000
38. Jon Bostic --- $695,000
39. Josh Bynes --- $695,000
40. Armonty Bryant --- $695,000
41. Ryan Wendell --- $695,000
42. Tim Wright --- $695,000
43. Miles Killebrew --- $684,641
44. Michael Burton --- $661,089
45. Gareon Conley --- $660,264
46. Quandre Diggs --- $643,838
47. Corey Robinson --- $629,477
48. Zach Zenner --- $616,668
49. Kerry Hyder --- $615,000
50. TJ Jones --- $615,000
51. Jace Billingsley --- $615,000
_______________________________________________________________________
52. Brandon Copeland --- $615,000
53. Thurston Armbrister --- $615,000
54. Alex Carter --- $615,000
55. Adarius Barnes --- $615,000
56. Charles Walker --- $613,827
57. Joe Dahl --- $601,478
58. Antwione Williams --- $591,115
59. Anthony Zettel --- $570,930
60. Dwayne Washington --- $558,941
61. Cole Wick --- $543,333
62. Ryan Spadola --- $540,000
63. Jake Rudock --- $540,000
64. Corey Clement --- $529,135
65. Taywan Taylor --- $500,761
66. Adam Shaheen --- $495,588
67. Jimmy Landes --- $490,089
68. Nick DeLuca --- $480,911
69. Mike James --- $465,000
70. Jared Abbrederis --- $465,000
71. Andrew Turzilli --- $465,000
72. Kennard Backman --- $465,000
73. Khari Lee --- $465,000
74. Matt Rotheram --- $465,000
75. Brandon Thomas --- $465,000
76. Steve Longa --- $465,000
77. Charles Washington --- $465,000
78. Ian Wells --- $465,000
79. Tommy Armstrong Jr. --- $465,000
80. Malik Adams --- $465,000
81. Jordan Morgan --- $465,000
82. Cole Gardner --- $465,000
83. Joe Spencer --- $465,000
84. Folarin Orimolade --- $465,000
85. Dylan Bradley --- $465,000
86. Tueni Lupeamanu --- $465,000
87. Roderick Henderson --- $465,000
88. Deon Hollins --- $465,000
89. Jeremy Cutrer --- $465,000
90. Dorian Williams --- $465,000


Total Cap Hits = $164,952,125
Dead Money = $3,398,677
Total Spending = $168,350,802
Adjusted Cap Space = $174,198,724
Remaining Cap Space = $5,847,922
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very nice, can see you took your time with everything, i see you keep rr over Larry Warford as long as we keep 1 of the 2 im good with that. ony thing is for Wr we should shot higher then Lafell but there really isnt a guy that stands out maybe Pierre Garcon/Kendall Wright type or try and get Desean Jackson, with that you dont need to get patterson? just my thought
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for time and energy it took make this, having done some similar in years past I know how much can go into these.

I think there might be too many acquisitions via FA, as I don't recall seeing this much roster churn. That being said I like the direction you are heading with paying attention to the defensive line.

I see our immediate needs as follows

1. Defense Tackle
2. Linebacker
3. Defensive End
4. Wide-Receiver
5. Boundry Cornerback
6. Running-back


I would maybe cut back on the additions via Free Agency try to keep it between 2-4 players max.

All in all cool projection and enjoyed the read
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyguy1609 wrote:
very nice, can see you took your time with everything, i see you keep rr over Larry Warford as long as we keep 1 of the 2 im good with that. ony thing is for Wr we should shot higher then Lafell but there really isnt a guy that stands out maybe Pierre Garcon/Kendall Wright type or try and get Desean Jackson, with that you dont need to get patterson? just my thought
I want the Lions to retain Larry Warford, but my guess is that he will want to test free agency and go to a team that better suits him. Reiff fits the mold that they look for in an offensive tackle and he's probably the best right tackle on the market so that's another reason to make a good offer to bring him back. LaFell is a solid player that will come at a good price. I wouldn't want a player like Kendall Wright, he is very underwhelming and wouldn't bring much to the offense. I considered players like Desean Jackson and Pierre Garcon, but ultimately I don't think they will be worth the money they will sign for and we need depth more than anything at the WR spot. Patterson is a great return man, which really is the main reason why I included him. Anything he can provide outside of special teams is a bonus.
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ATL-Lion wrote:
Thank you for time and energy it took make this, having done some similar in years past I know how much can go into these.

I think there might be too many acquisitions via FA, as I don't recall seeing this much roster churn. That being said I like the direction you are heading with paying attention to the defensive line.

I see our immediate needs as follows

1. Defense Tackle
2. Linebacker
3. Defensive End
4. Wide-Receiver
5. Boundry Cornerback
6. Running-back


I would maybe cut back on the additions via Free Agency try to keep it between 2-4 players max.

All in all cool projection and enjoyed the read
With the rising cap numbers, the rising contracts, and the many needs on this roster, it is very difficult to make a mock draft like this and only sign a few free agents. So many positions need to be improved that the draft alone won't be able to fix this team. I get what you're saying though, it is very unusual for this many free agents to sign to one team. I wouldn't be shocked if we see a major roster turnover this year. They have a good amount of money to spend in free agency, extending Stafford and Ansah won't hurt the cap, and there are a number of free agents who potentially could go "under the radar" and be available for a great price (LaFell, McClain, and Harmon are great examples)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can relate to the time and effort you put into this. However:
-)There is no need to resign Bostic and Bynes, just to target young blood at LB like J. Davis. I do believe we will add an LB in the first half of the draft. Bynes is my choice; he can play anywhere. I understand adding depth, but the extra money could persuade someone better to come to Detroit.
-)Why let Warford walk to pay TJ Lang 9 mil? Lang is not worth that much and Warford should be happy with a few million less. Not to mention there are a few well known Guards entering FA this year and we have Tomlinson (a bluff; he sucks) as a bargaining chip.
-)Andre Roberts could be had for 1/3 of the price of Patterson.
-)Patterson and Randle are less Wr's than Tate and M. Jones. Neither would push Tate into the slot. Why not something different? Kenny Stills is a burner, heck bring Boldin back rather than Randle/ Patterson. Save money with either Stills or Boldin.
-)I love the Hankins pick up, and the money seems perfect.
-)If you're going to fill so much through Free Agency; why not target a TE earlier than the 6th? Ebron is not good and is a FA in 2017. Vernon Davis doesn't have any good years left. Also, there is absolutely no reason to re-sign Orlovsky.
-)Quinn doesn't seem to want want to max out our cap space. I'd eliminate all your FA's... I'm on the fence with Amukamara.
-)Your draft is also questionable; your first three picks could all be first rounders.... I don't want Charles Walker, and when was the last time a Wisconsin RB panned out? Melvin Gordon is up in the air...
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You call McDowell an edge? The dude had like 6 sacks for his career if I'm remembering right. Davis might be there but him an Conley seem wishful thinking at them spots to me.

There things I like about McDowell but nothing enough to draft in rd 1

I think safety is a pretty big need apparently you do not..so hard for me to get past that. Love the effort tho I like when people have time to do a full mock
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Rockcity wrote:
You call McDowell an edge? The dude had like 6 sacks for his career if I'm remembering right. Davis might be there but him an Conley seem wishful thinking at them spots to me.

There things I like about McDowell but nothing enough to draft in rd 1

I think safety is a pretty big need apparently you do not..so hard for me to get past that. Love the effort tho I like when people have time to do a full mock
McDowell fits the mold of what they want in an end and his skills are better suited there than the interior. He played a lot of snaps in interior as a 4i, 3T, 2T, 2i, 1T, and even 0T. He did that because he was basically the only option MSU had, though they full well knew he was better suited as an edge. His sack numbers are low because he played out of position and had fewer pass rush opportunities (also volume stats really have no significance on pro success).

Jarrad Davis and Gareon Conley certainly may be wishful thinking for those spots, but at this point it is nearly impossible to project who will go where. For all we know, McDowell, Davis, and Conley could go top 15 or could fall even further than I have them. I don't really get caught up in that this early.

I don't really see safety as a large need, though I do think I made the position fairly strong. Quin has been a solid player here for a while now. Even though he isn't forcing as many turnovers, he is still a very good safety. Tavon Wilson has come on strong this year and, in my opinion, has certainly earned the right to enter next season as a starter at the other safety spot. Miles Killebrew has looked very promising this season and has come up big on 3rd downs. He will have an expanded role next year as a 3rd safety and will have the chance to start over Wilson if he proves to be more effective (though, I doubt that happens). I also added Duron Harmon. He has been a rotational player for the Patriots who has received high praise by Belichick. He would have been a starter in that defense if Devin McCourty wasn't a pro-bowl caliber player year-in and year-out. He will provide depth in a similar way that Rafael Bush did, through he is better in coverage. I also signed him to a long term deal as insurance for the following season when Glover Quin becomes a free agent. Don Carey also likely makes the team for special teams though ideally he never sees the field on defense. Don't sleep on the UDFA Dorian Williams either. He is a great athlete for the position and, if he takes to coaching well, could someday be a useful player.
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IDOG_det wrote:
Rockcity wrote:
You call McDowell an edge? The dude had like 6 sacks for his career if I'm remembering right. Davis might be there but him an Conley seem wishful thinking at them spots to me.

There things I like about McDowell but nothing enough to draft in rd 1

I think safety is a pretty big need apparently you do not..so hard for me to get past that. Love the effort tho I like when people have time to do a full mock
McDowell fits the mold of what they want in an end and his skills are better suited there than the interior. He played a lot of snaps in interior as a 4i, 3T, 2T, 2i, 1T, and even 0T. He did that because he was basically the only option MSU had, though they full well knew he was better suited as an edge. His sack numbers are low because he played out of position and had fewer pass rush opportunities (also volume stats really have no significance on pro success).

Jarrad Davis and Gareon Conley certainly may be wishful thinking for those spots, but at this point it is nearly impossible to project who will go where. For all we know, McDowell, Davis, and Conley could go top 15 or could fall even further than I have them. I don't really get caught up in that this early.

I don't really see safety as a large need, though I do think I made the position fairly strong. Quin has been a solid player here for a while now. Even though he isn't forcing as many turnovers, he is still a very good safety. Tavon Wilson has come on strong this year and, in my opinion, has certainly earned the right to enter next season as a starter at the other safety spot. Miles Killebrew has looked very promising this season and has come up big on 3rd downs. He will have an expanded role next year as a 3rd safety and will have the chance to start over Wilson if he proves to be more effective (though, I doubt that happens). I also added Duron Harmon. He has been a rotational player for the Patriots who has received high praise by Belichick. He would have been a starter in that defense if Devin McCourty wasn't a pro-bowl caliber player year-in and year-out. He will provide depth in a similar way that Rafael Bush did, through he is better in coverage. I also signed him to a long term deal as insurance for the following season when Glover Quin becomes a free agent. Don Carey also likely makes the team for special teams though ideally he never sees the field on defense. Don't sleep on the UDFA Dorian Williams either. He is a great athlete for the position and, if he takes to coaching well, could someday be a useful player.
even the year msu had players he came away with what 4 sacks. Fitting the mold and actually producing are different things.i see him as more of a 34 end..each his own guess you can project guys anywhere. Some will see guys as CBS some as a saftey.i get that. He just never really played the position so idk how it would transition
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