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-Hope-
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| iPwn wrote: | | cddolphin wrote: | | iPwn wrote: | | CP3MVP wrote: | | Maybe just maybe the job isn't as desirable as fans make it out to be. Lots of people don't like Blake Bortles as a long term starter in the NFL and if you want to be the coach you have to take him. At least for 2017. |
Our GM literally said that he was overwhelmed by the sheer amount of interest he had from potential hires. He said he was contacted by an overwhelming number of people interested in the job and that he was surprised that he didn't have to call to get people interested.
So maybe "fans" were wrong about the desirability of the job, but it would only be because our GM is a liar. |
I mean.. "coachspeak" by the GM is a thing. Can't really draw conclusions from what the GM says. |
Coachspeak is not literally lying about interest in a opening. He compared it to when Gus was hired and said it was tenfold better. He actually had multiple people from outside the organization who wanted the job then. He said that when Gus was hired, he had to cold call for all interviews because it was so disinteresting, but that this time he got direct calls from overwhelming numbers of well qualified candidates outside the organizationwho wanted the job. So coachspeak wouldn't account for flat out lying. |
i mean iwbh flat-out lying is a thing too |
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KhanYouDigIt
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| bigbadbuff23835 wrote: | | .Buzz wrote: | Everyone on defensive staff but Todd Wash and an assistant staying. Has to mean that BS scheme is getting tossed out. Thank the lord.
Offensive staff it sounds like is totally getting rebuild besides Hackett for the most part (his OC at Cuse and BUF), so that's good as well.
I think the Jaguars are bringing in Jimmy Smith (J-Smooth) to coach the WR's in some capacity. Love seeing him back with the team in some capacity. |
He's keeping Hackett as OC?!!!!!!!
Now I really feel bad for you. Hackett is worse than Marrone |
We will see. He will have a lot more to work with than what he had in Buffalo.
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iPwn
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| -Hope- wrote: | | iPwn wrote: | | cddolphin wrote: | | iPwn wrote: | | CP3MVP wrote: | | Maybe just maybe the job isn't as desirable as fans make it out to be. Lots of people don't like Blake Bortles as a long term starter in the NFL and if you want to be the coach you have to take him. At least for 2017. |
Our GM literally said that he was overwhelmed by the sheer amount of interest he had from potential hires. He said he was contacted by an overwhelming number of people interested in the job and that he was surprised that he didn't have to call to get people interested.
So maybe "fans" were wrong about the desirability of the job, but it would only be because our GM is a liar. |
I mean.. "coachspeak" by the GM is a thing. Can't really draw conclusions from what the GM says. |
Coachspeak is not literally lying about interest in a opening. He compared it to when Gus was hired and said it was tenfold better. He actually had multiple people from outside the organization who wanted the job then. He said that when Gus was hired, he had to cold call for all interviews because it was so disinteresting, but that this time he got direct calls from overwhelming numbers of well qualified candidates outside the organizationwho wanted the job. So coachspeak wouldn't account for flat out lying. |
i mean iwbh flat-out lying is a thing too |
I said that, yes.
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jrry32
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| .Buzz wrote: | Everyone on defensive staff but Todd Wash and an assistant staying. Has to mean that BS scheme is getting tossed out. Thank the lord.
Offensive staff it sounds like is totally getting rebuild besides Hackett for the most part (his OC at Cuse and BUF), so that's good as well.
I think the Jaguars are bringing in Jimmy Smith (J-Smooth) to coach the WR's in some capacity. Love seeing him back with the team in some capacity. |
Does Jimmy have his issues under control?
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.Buzz
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| jrry32 wrote: | | .Buzz wrote: | Everyone on defensive staff but Todd Wash and an assistant staying. Has to mean that BS scheme is getting tossed out. Thank the lord.
Offensive staff it sounds like is totally getting rebuild besides Hackett for the most part (his OC at Cuse and BUF), so that's good as well.
I think the Jaguars are bringing in Jimmy Smith (J-Smooth) to coach the WR's in some capacity. Love seeing him back with the team in some capacity. |
Does Jimmy have his issues under control? |
As far as I know yes. He was inducted into the Pride of the Jaguars this season. Pretty sure the only way he could was by being and staying clean for a certain period of time.
Plus, no way TC or Marrone put him on if they thought he was. Not exactly a great role model for the young receivers if he still had those problems. 
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KManX89
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| jagman777 wrote: | we're really gonna be good next year this time
we promise
all those other times didn't count. this time we are super serious |
That's what everyone thought this year.
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.Buzz
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| KManX89 wrote: | | jagman777 wrote: | we're really gonna be good next year this time
we promise
all those other times didn't count. this time we are super serious |
That's what everyone thought this year. |
He's being sarcastic.
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MemphisEagles
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I understand not wanting Marrone but who was wanted instead? Mike Smith? Kyle Shanahan? Just curious
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jagman777
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| MemphisEagles wrote: | | I understand not wanting Marrone but who was wanted instead? Mike Smith? Kyle Shanahan? Just curious |
I think mike smith would have been the best hire assuming he brings in a half decent OC (which would be a 200% upgrade from our current guy)
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Jaytrajik
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So how much of the Gus Bradley regime will be trimmed? Going with an insider doesn't seem like they want to change the culture of the team, though they did look good at the tail end. Really don't know enough about Marrone to know if it's a good hire or just more of the same.
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.Buzz
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Jaytrajik wrote: | | So how much of the Gus Bradley regime will be trimmed? Going with an insider doesn't seem like they want to change the culture of the team, though they did look good at the tail end. Really don't know enough about Marrone to know if it's a good hire or just more of the same. |
Well, considering we fired all of the defensive staff beside Wash and an assistant I'd say the scheme will be completely overhauled. Wash basically just ran what Gus wanted.
The culture will be very different. Doug Marrone is a complete 180 from Gus, plus we added Coughlin to oversee all football operations. I think the "just get better" motto from Gus is long gone at this point.
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.Buzz
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Guess Hackett isn't the shoe in at OC. We are interested in Mike McCoy and liked Downing from OAK before he got their OC job.
I expect Hackett to be the guy, but their looking around.
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JaguarCrazy2832
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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I've been more upset about decisions...ho hum
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Trentwannabe
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I'm told Tom Coughlin has blocked Doug Marrone from hiring Donnie Henderson 2 @Jaguars coaching staff. TC/DH had big blowup at '05 scrimmage |
| Quote: | Alex Marvez @alexmarvez 2m2 minutes ago
I'm told Doug Marrone wants to hire @buffalobills ST coach Danny Crossman for @Jaguars staff but hasn't gotten Tom Coughlin's approval yet |
Henderson is one of the best. I hope he comes back to Buffalo.
Crossman is solid but he needs special team specific players to have a good unit. |
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.Buzz
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Luckily Doug absolutely admires Tom Coughlin based on the press conference in every way.
But yeah, TC is going to have final say on a lot of things here. He won't force a staff on him, but he wants this to get built right. We need this type of leadership/knowledge to get back on track. TC cares so much about Jacksonville...he's going to get us back on track.
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