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turtle28
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| MKnight82 wrote: | | HTTRG3Dynasty wrote: | | If anyone is willing to have an intelligent discussion on our draft classes without irrationally comparing guys who have been in the league 3 years with guys who have been in the league only one or two, let me know. |
The month he was banned was the best this website has been since I joined. |
I'm sure it was because most people just come in here to agree on everything, I bring a different perspective which you don't like because I question a lot of your points.
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John Wooten of Fritz Pollard Alliance said Washington has submitted plan to #NFL to reorganize front office w/out replacing GM position ...
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... vacated by firing GM Scot McCloughan. Pollard Alliance is waiting to see what the plan is.
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Bruce Allen has been running the Skins even when McCloughan had the title. Nothing changes--titles can be misleading. |
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turtle28
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I don't know why they wouldn't just add GM to Bruce Allen's title rather than go through this, if he's going to be running things.
Jerry Jones just added the title to his title after he fired Jimmy Johnson. Jones has been the Owner, President & General Manager of the Cowboys since 94 hasn't he?
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Doc Draper
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| turtle28 wrote: | I don't know why they wouldn't just add GM to Bruce Allen's title rather than go through this, if he's going to be running things.
Jerry Jones just added the title to his title after he fired Jimmy Johnson. Jones has been the Owner, President & General Manager of the Cowboys since 94 hasn't he? |
Because it's transparent accountability ( a good practice)
Put a staff member between you and problems so they get fired, not you |
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turtle28
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| Doc Draper wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | I don't know why they wouldn't just add GM to Bruce Allen's title rather than go through this, if he's going to be running things.
Jerry Jones just added the title to his title after he fired Jimmy Johnson. Jones has been the Owner, President & General Manager of the Cowboys since 94 hasn't he? |
Because it's transparent accountability ( a good practice)
Put a staff member between you and problems so they get fired, not you |
Oh I totally get that we should hire someone who's like a Scot McCloughan although arguably Scott Campbell has filed that role for this team for 15 years and we have Doug Williams and Alex Santos but I'm saying I don't understand why they can't just change Allen's title. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying why don't they?
Also, were going to have to get used to Bruce being in control. We don't have to like it, but it is what it is, just like we don't like Dan but he's going to be the owner for the next 30 years or more so, well have to live with him. Nothing is changing thst.
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| turtle28 wrote: | | Doc Draper wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | I don't know why they wouldn't just add GM to Bruce Allen's title rather than go through this, if he's going to be running things.
Jerry Jones just added the title to his title after he fired Jimmy Johnson. Jones has been the Owner, President & General Manager of the Cowboys since 94 hasn't he? |
Because it's transparent accountability ( a good practice)
Put a staff member between you and problems so they get fired, not you |
Oh I totally get that we should hire someone who's like a Scot McCloughan although arguably Scott Campbell has filed that role for this team for 15 years and we have Doug Williams and Alex Santos but I'm saying I don't understand why they can't just change Allen's title. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying why don't they?
Also, were going to have to get used to Bruce being in control. We don't have to like it, but it is what it is, just like we don't like Dan but he's going to be the owner for the next 30 years or more so, well have to live with him. Nothing is changing thst. |
The thing that I don't get though is that you LOVE Bruce Allen. I can't fathom that.
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| MKnight82 wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | | Doc Draper wrote: | | turtle28 wrote: | I don't know why they wouldn't just add GM to Bruce Allen's title rather than go through this, if he's going to be running things.
Jerry Jones just added the title to his title after he fired Jimmy Johnson. Jones has been the Owner, President & General Manager of the Cowboys since 94 hasn't he? |
Because it's transparent accountability ( a good practice)
Put a staff member between you and problems so they get fired, not you |
Oh I totally get that we should hire someone who's like a Scot McCloughan although arguably Scott Campbell has filed that role for this team for 15 years and we have Doug Williams and Alex Santos but I'm saying I don't understand why they can't just change Allen's title. I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying why don't they?
Also, were going to have to get used to Bruce being in control. We don't have to like it, but it is what it is, just like we don't like Dan but he's going to be the owner for the next 30 years or more so, well have to live with him. Nothing is changing thst. |
The thing that I don't get though is that you LOVE Bruce Allen. I can't fathom that. |
I don't understand why you can't comprehend my posts. I don't love Bruce Allen, but if he makes a good signing or we draft a good player while he's in charge I'm going to acknowledge that the move was good one.
When he's a total tool in the media and makes poor decisions, I have always said he was stupid or whatever but if he makes a good decision like he did with some of the moves in 2014 and what seems to be the case this offseason I'm going to say it was a good move.
To act in any other way is just being a ridiculous fan who's going to hold a stupid grudge over him because you don't like the fact that the owner has twice given Allen total control and stripped control away from Shanahan after he totally botched the Griffin situation in 2013 and because the owner agreed with Allen that McCloughan needed to go - for whatever reason - and Allen was again given control by the owner.
Let me make this clear, I DO NOT AGREE THAT SCOT MCCLOUGHAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED!!!
I DO NOT AGREE THAT BRUCE ALLEN SHOULD HAVE FINAL SAY IN ANYTHING IN THE ORGANIZATION GIVEN HOW HE'S BOTCHED A LOT STUFF - PARTICULARLY PR WISE - SINCE HE WAS HIRED.
That being said, again, if we make a move I agree with like some of the players who we signed and drafted then I'm going to say it's a good move.
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Turtle, you post like someone who loves Bruce Allen. He is scum. Stephen Brannon levels of scum.
Allen is here for two reasons:
1. He will do whatever Snyder wants, regardless of the impact on the team or can base
2. To get Snyder a new stadium deal |
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turtle28
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| Slateman wrote: | Turtle, you post like someone who loves Bruce Allen. He is scum. Stephen Brannon levels of scum.
Allen is here for two reasons:
1. He will do whatever Snyder wants, regardless of the impact on the team or can base
2. To get Snyder a new stadium deal |
I post like someone who's a fan of the Redskins and if they do something I agree with, I'll say I agree and why. If I don't agree with it, I'll say why. If I can understand why and say we have to give it a chance and it's worked out before, I'll show that as wel.
I'm shades of gray, not black and white with the Redskins.
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| When I think of Bruce Allen- it is not him being a cancer. Rather Bruce is more like an STD- you choose to do something stupid designed to give you immediate pleasure, in 3 days the pain comes increasing worse and worse everyday until you get that shot of PP Pen. I could see Danny boy getting that shot if this season is a 4-12 disaster Vegas thinks is more probably than not |
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Can you imagine if/when we win 7 or less games this year? Oh man they'll never hear the end of it about how they shouldn't have let McG go
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turtle28
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| MikeT14 wrote: | | Can you imagine if/when we win 7 or less games this year? Oh man they'll never hear the end of it about how they shouldn't have let McG go |
I'm not sure it will be any worse than what it's already been. Everyone has already been saying that for two months. It's not going away either, eveeytine they lose a game I think it will be part of the narrative amongst the fans and media.
Not too different than the narrative of when Kirk first took over for RG3 in 2014 and everytime he made a mistake or had an int, probably more than half the fan base and media jumped all over him about how he's throws too many interceptions and whatever.
When if Kirk had started all of 2014, he probably would have thrown for 4,000 yards and around 25 TDs but also would have thrown around 20 ints as well.
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| MikeT14 wrote: | | Can you imagine if/when we win 7 or less games this year? Oh man they'll never hear the end of it about how they shouldn't have let McG go |
Or the maybe Bruce was right and Scot was drunk to want to pay Kirk! Because if we go 4-12 then Kirk is gone unless he got hurt week 1 and that was why we go 4-12
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| ripsean21 wrote: | | MikeT14 wrote: | | Can you imagine if/when we win 7 or less games this year? Oh man they'll never hear the end of it about how they shouldn't have let McG go |
Or the maybe Bruce was right and Scot was drunk to want to pay Kirk! Because if we go 4-12 then Kirk is gone unless he got hurt week 1 and that was why we go 4-12 |
Perhaps, perhaps not. Cousins has been very fortunate from an injury standpoint. You can't always predict injuries although with some current and former players it's easier ( Bobby Griffin, Reed, DJax) than others. Don't want to jinx him but 17 may not be a 16 game start for him. Then what do skins do? |
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