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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:23 am    Post subject: Ravens 2017 Roster Tracker Reply with quote

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2013: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=507494
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2016: http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=573855

Unrestricted Free Agents

Kamar Aiken
Vladimir Ducasse
Matt Elam
Lawrence Guy
Kyle Juszczyk
Anthony Levine
Chris Lewis-Harris
Ryan Mallett
Jerraud Powers
Steve Smith: Retired
Rick Wagner
Brandon Williams

Restricted Free Agents

Marqueston Huff
James Hurst
Ryan Jensen
Zach Orr: Retired
Jumal Rolle
Terrance West

Exclusive Rights Free Agents

Brennen Beyer
Michael Campanaro
Lamar Louis
Chris Matthews
Patrick Onwuasor
Sheldon Price
Keenan Reynolds
De'Ondre Wesley

Practice Squad Free Agents

Kenny Bell: Re-signed to reserve/futures deal
Sam Brown
Jarell Broxton: Re-signed to reserve/futures deal
Robertson Daniel: Re-signed to reserve/futures deal
Stephen Houston: Re-signed to reserve/futures deal
Kapron Lewis-Moore: Signed to reserve/futures deal by CHI
Jarrod Pughsley: Re-signed to reserve/futures deal
Matt Skura: Re-signed to reserve/futures deal
Dustin Vaughan: Re-signed to reserve/futures deal

Signed

Boseko Lokombo: Signed to reserve/futures deal
Otha Foster: Signed to reserve/futures deal

TBA

Released

TBA

Trades

TBA

2017 Draft Picks

Round # 1, Pick # TBA
Round # 2, Pick # TBA
Round # 3, Pick # TBA
Round # 4, Pick # TBA
Round # 5, Pick # TBA
Round # 6, Pick # TBA
Round # 7, Pick # TBA

2017 Undrafted Free Agents

TBA

Roster

QB: Joe Flacco / Dustin Vaughan
RB: Kenneth Dixon / Javorius Allen / Lorenzo Taliaferro / Stephen Houston
FB:
WR: Mike Wallace / Breshad Perriman / Chris Moore / Vince Mayle / Kenny Bell
TE: Dennis Pitta / Darren Waller / Nick Boyle / Crockett Gillmore / Maxx Williams / Benjamin Watson
OT: Ronnie Stanley / Stephane Nembot
OG: Marshal Yanda / Alex Lewis / Jarell Broxton / Jarrod Pughsley
C: Jeremy Zuttah / John Urschel / Matt Skura

DL: Timmy Jernigan / Michael Pierce / Brent Urban / Bronson Kaufusi / Carl Davis / Willie Henry
OLB: Terrell Suggs / Albert McClellan / Elvis Dumervil / Matt Judon / Za'Darius Smith
ILB: C.J. Mosley / Kamalei Correa / Cavellis Luckett / Boseko Lokombo
CB: Jimmy Smith / Tavon Young / Shareece Wright / Maurice Canady / Kyle Arrington / Robertson Daniel
S: Eric Weddle / Lardarius Webb / Kendrick Lewis / Otha Foster

K: Justin Tucker
P: Sam Koch
LS: Morgan Cox


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hate having to post this now, but with the season officially over and questions abounding.......


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a LOT of room to free up some $$ there.

Doom, Arrington, Lewis and Shareece Wright should be gone for sure. That's $12.5M freed up right there.

Pitta isn't worth a $5.5M salary given he can't block and isn't amazing as a receiver. I think a $2M paycut is in order.

Suggs and Wallace are fine where they are at.

Nothing has really changed with Watson, so I guess that's staying there, despite us not understanding the move. Ironically, Ozzie may have been on to something with us needing a TE that could catch and block for much of the season, but Watson was also out.

I really want to keep Webb there at safety. It'll be difficult to get ANOTHER pay cut from him though, without him just wanting the release.

I really hope they move on from Zuttah (for his play on the field, not for the cap space), but they already kept him a lot longer than I thought they would.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is a LOT of room to free up some $$ there.

Doom, Arrington, Lewis and Shareece Wright should be gone for sure. That's $12.5M freed up right there.

Pitta isn't worth a $5.5M salary given he can't block and isn't amazing as a receiver. I think a $2M paycut is in order.

Suggs and Wallace are fine where they are at.

Nothing has really changed with Watson, so I guess that's staying there, despite us not understanding the move. Ironically, Ozzie may have been on to something with us needing a TE that could catch and block for much of the season, but Watson was also out.

I really want to keep Webb there at safety. It'll be difficult to get ANOTHER pay cut from him though, without him just wanting the release.

I really hope they move on from Zuttah (for his play on the field, not for the cap space), but they already kept him a lot longer than I thought they would.


Agreed, I don't see any reason to fiddle with Suggs's and Wallace's deals.

For Webb, I could see them effectively lowering his cap hit without getting him to take a paycut by extending him beyond next season. Perhaps two or three extra years and turn his salary this season into bonus (even add a little on top)? He's played well this year and he may be up for it.

Part of me feels like we could move on from Watson. A two year deal is largely a means of lowering the single year impact while still getting the player a bigger y1 payday unless they work out like Wallace IMO.
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I can't see Watson being back with five other tight ends still under contract. Wouldn't make any sense. Can't keep that many around just for injury insurance. Arrington and Lewis should be easy cuts too.

My guess is that Wallace gets an extension and renegotiated first year so his cap hit comes down. Probably a good chance of that happening with Webb too.

Pitta is interesting. I don't think he's worth that kind of base salary, but Dennis is also Joe's best friend on and off the field. That counts for a lot.

Then there's the (vastly) underperforming Wright and Zuttah... that might be held on to because that's what this staff does. Keep the crappy guys who are "their" players and let those who are worth anything walk.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wackywabbit wrote:
There is a LOT of room to free up some $$ there.

Doom, Arrington, Lewis and Shareece Wright should be gone for sure. That's $12.5M freed up right there.


Other than Doom, those guys should never even have been signed. Same goes for Watson. I see no reason for them to keep him.

Suggs and Webb are both good enough to come back, and I'd like to see Wallace get a second season as well.

As for Pitta, we still need to see the Ravens getting some consistent production from the stable of TEs they have. Gillmore, Williams, Boyle, Waller all have ability, but none of them have done more than flash once or twice.

Of the UFAs, I really want them to find a way to bring back Wagner, Williams and Juszczyk. Steve Smith is going to retire, I'm sure, and the others on that list don't really interest me. Lawrence Guy might get a decent contract somewhere, though.

They might also want to extend Orr before he becomes a UFA. Although he could just end up being the latest Ravens ILB to attract a fat contract and then not live up to it.
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Jeff Zrebiec ‏@jeffzrebiecsun 2h2 hours ago
Marshal Yanda said he'll be back at right guard next yr.Hasn't decided whether he'll have shoulder surgery or whether he'll play in Pro Bowl


Bleh. Left guard becomes almost as big of a need as center. I don't like Lewis much there... or at left tackle.

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Kamar Aiken said this was one of most frustrating seasons of his career. Acknowledged it will affect his free agency decision making.


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Jeff Zrebiec ‏@jeffzrebiecsun 2h2 hours ago
Aiken didn't rule out re-signing with Ravens but said he believes he's a starter and he can make plays if given the opportunity.


Please go. I was a fan of his, but would like a reliable "possession" receiver option on the roster to go with Wallace, Perriman, and Moore.

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Jeff Zrebiec ‏@jeffzrebiecsun 2h2 hours ago
Free agent FB Kyle Juszczyk said he's hoping to return but is confident he'll have some good options.


Man, I'm not sure how the Ravens would replace him. As a blocker in the backfield, both for the running and passing game, and also as a receiver out of the backfield he has no equal.

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Jeff Zrebiec ‏@jeffzrebiecsun 48m48 minutes ago
Elvis Dumervil on status with Ravens: "I got one year left on the deal. Thatís where itís at right now."


Not for long.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Sign-Six-Players-To-ReserveFuture-Contracts/6c8bc3e2-fc1c-4735-b902-cb9915e5299a

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The Ravens front office was busy on the first day of the offseason.

Baltimore signed six players to reserve/future contracts Monday afternoon, meaning they have retained the rights of the following players going into the offseason:

WR Kenny Bell
OL Jarell Broxton
RB Stephen Houston
OL Jarrod Pughsley
OL Matt Skura
QB Dustin Vaughan


Meaning Sam Brown, Robertson Daniel, and Kapron Lewis-Moore won't be retained.
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-ravens-news-notes-and-opinions-20170105-story.html

Lots of good stuff here. Zrebiec might not have the... insider punch Aaron Wilson had, but he's much better at getting solid content out. Informed opinionated content, but it's usually pretty spot-on too.

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In answering a question about the Ravens offensive line at his news conference, Harbaugh said the team feels good about Ronnie Stanley at left tackle and Lewis at left guard going forward. That, along with the team using James Hurst at right tackle over the final two weeks, seemingly indicates that the Ravens view Lewis more as a guard, rather than a potential option to replace pending free-agent right tackle Rick Wagner.

It also means that if Wagner departs, and the bet here is he will, the Ravens will be in the market for a right tackle unless they view huge but raw linemen DeíOndre Wesley and Stephane Nembot, who both spent the season on injured reserve, as potential solutions.


I actually don't hate the idea of Wagner leaving in free agency since it means the team would have more money to throw at Williams. Still, with the offensive line already needing improvements (mostly coaching though in my opinion) that wouldn't be great. If the bolded above is true then the line looks something like this:

Stanley / Lewis / ??? / Yanda / ???

If you like Lewis that's a pretty solid base. I still like the idea of Ronnie and Marshal holding down the left side given their success the past few weeks but that doesn't seem to be an option. Alex is still pretty meh to me but I don't mind the team sticking with a young player either.

But that leaves two open spots on the offensive line with no apparent players currently on the roster to step up into them. Urschel seems to have fallen out of favor as has Jensen given his string of inactive games. My guess is that one of those positions would be filled in the draft and one in free agency. A quick turnaround probably means going with a free agent center and a rookie right tackle. I think that's the cheaper option too since a quality free agent right tackle would be costly, and the Ravens would just keep Wagner around if that's the plan.

So... does anybody have favorites for free agent center options?
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Unless he commands an endless and unreasonable amount of money, I see no reason to part ways with Wagner.

Our oline have been in shambles since the super bowl with the Kubiak year being the only outlier. Why do people think we should not invest in the oline year after year?

I would rather invest in Wagner and let Zuttah walk along with Aiken and Watson.
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Unless he commands an endless and unreasonable amount of money, I see no reason to part ways with Wagner.

Our oline have been in shambles since the super bowl with the Kubiak year being the only outlier. Why do people think we should not invest in the oline year after year?

I would rather invest in Wagner and let Zuttah walk along with Aiken and Watson.


I think the latter is going to happen regardless of what happens with Wagner. There's so many possibly and somewhat likely moves the Ravens can make to open up cap space, so it's hard to know exactly what they're going to be working with, but if the goal is to keep Williams around it probably won't be a ton.

If not then there's a decent chunk of cap space to keep Rick around... but how much is he actually worth? The offensive line needs to be fortified but with Baltimore always teetering on the edge of not having enough cap space to do anything meaningful with they can't go out and pay him a ton either. He's not THAT good to keep around regardless of cost. Not talking about an endless and unreasonable amount either. Free agent offensive linemen get a lot on the open market and I think he will take the most money he can get and leave. Which isn't a knock on him, that's what Wagner should do. I'm just really doubting it will be the Ravens that offer him the biggest contract.
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This team only goes as far as Joe Flacco can take them. Joe Flacco only goes as far as his OL can take him.

We've seen what happens when our OL is not good. We HAVE to start paying the offensive line.
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M.10.E wrote:
This team only goes as far as Joe Flacco can take them. Joe Flacco only goes as far as his OL can take him.

We've seen what happens when our OL is not good. We HAVE to start paying the offensive line.


Acquiring the players comes first. You don't pay them just for the sake of paying them. Drafting a stud OC would be a good start to improving the line without "paying" them. Yanda makes good $$. I'd like to keep Wagner, but it will depend what the market for him is like.
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coordinator0 wrote:
Danand wrote:
Unless he commands an endless and unreasonable amount of money, I see no reason to part ways with Wagner.

Our oline have been in shambles since the super bowl with the Kubiak year being the only outlier. Why do people think we should not invest in the oline year after year?

I would rather invest in Wagner and let Zuttah walk along with Aiken and Watson.


I think the latter is going to happen regardless of what happens with Wagner. There's so many possibly and somewhat likely moves the Ravens can make to open up cap space, so it's hard to know exactly what they're going to be working with, but if the goal is to keep Williams around it probably won't be a ton.

If not then there's a decent chunk of cap space to keep Rick around... but how much is he actually worth? The offensive line needs to be fortified but with Baltimore always teetering on the edge of not having enough cap space to do anything meaningful with they can't go out and pay him a ton either. He's not THAT good to keep around regardless of cost. Not talking about an endless and unreasonable amount either. Free agent offensive linemen get a lot on the open market and I think he will take the most money he can get and leave. Which isn't a knock on him, that's what Wagner should do. I'm just really doubting it will be the Ravens that offer him the biggest contract.


I get what you mean, but they can keep Williams around without a massive cap hit if they do the double-bonus structure they seem to be a fan of for their big contract guys (a la Ngata's deal).
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The Baltimore Sun's Jeff Zrebiec wrote "it's tough to envision" Dennis Pitta returning for 2017 on his current contract.
Pitta took a pay cut last offseason to stay with the team, and he might have to do the same again this spring. Pitta did lead tight ends with 86 catches in his comeback campaign, but he averaged 8.5 yards per catch while finding the end zone twice. That production is not worth the $7.7 million cap hit Pitta carries next season, especially since the Ravens currently have six tight ends on the roster. It would not be surprising if Baltimore moved on from both Pitta and Benjamin Watson this offseason.


Interesting. I would love to see Maxx Williams be given more opportunities but he needs to stay healthy first. I am also a massive Gilmore fan but he needs to stay healthy also. It is interesting to monitor what will happen at TE.

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The Baltimore Sun's Jeff Zrebiec believes impending free agent NT Brandon Williams will be the Ravens' priority this offseason.
Baltimore's list of free agents includes RT Rick Wagner and FB Kyle Juszczyk, but Zrebiec writes Williams will be the main focus, which is a smart decision by the Ravens. That said, price could be an issue after Damon Harrison landed a five-year, $46.25-million deal with the Giants last offseason. If Williams wants that kind of money, the Ravens may be priced out of his market.


Damon snacks Harrison just named first team all pro btw. I personally am not in favor of bringing Williams back at anything higher than 6 million per. The Ravens have Pierce in the wings, Carl Davis is still around and Willie Henry is also a possibility. Williams also offers nothing in pass rushing situations and the last four weeks proved that he is not the run stopping animal many thought. Williams is a great player no doubt, I just do not want to commit a lot of money in a guy who is hardly on the field. Jernigan is also up for extension next year (as is CJ) and I would rather pay him the money.

He also is not willing to take a 'hometown discount' for what it is worth

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The top interior free agent run stuffer last offseason, Damon Harrison was rewarded with a five-year, $46.25 million deal ($24 million guaranteed) from the New York Giants. With prices going up, Williams figures to get at least that and that could become prohibitive for the Ravens.

Asked last week whether he'd take a hometown discount to stay, the affable nose tackle said, "Hey, my hometown is St. Louis."
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sp6488 wrote:
M.10.E wrote:
This team only goes as far as Joe Flacco can take them. Joe Flacco only goes as far as his OL can take him.

We've seen what happens when our OL is not good. We HAVE to start paying the offensive line.


Acquiring the players comes first. You don't pay them just for the sake of paying them. Drafting a stud OC would be a good start to improving the line without "paying" them. Yanda makes good $$. I'd like to keep Wagner, but it will depend what the market for him is like.


The Ravens drafted Wagner with a view to him taking over from Oher at RT. He barely saw the field in his first season, but was ready to step in and start in his second. I think they've done similar planning ahead with Alex Lewis. If Wagner walks, I think Lewis will be the most likely successor.

I do expect them to draft at least one more O-lineman, though. It would be great to get a proper, stud Center, if one can be found.
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