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CalhounLambeau


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:16 pm    Post subject: The Official Baker Mayfield Great Debate Thread Reply with quote


“Everybody here loves Baker,” Sooners cornerback Zack Sanchez said. “Baker is that dude here.”

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“Maybe the strangest thing that’s ever happened in my coaching career,” Stoops said. “I was hearing the rumors that he’s transferring to Oklahoma and I had never talked to the guy. And he’s never called to ask if he could. If I said 'no,' he might be in a fraternity over here playing yard ball.

“(We) go to our first team meeting and he introduces himself and I say, ‘So you’re Baker Mayfield.’ I had no idea. Of course, I knew of him and how well he did at Tech. But it was just strange.”

Mayfield, however, quickly endeared himself to Stoops and the other coaches with his attitude, even after Texas Tech blocked him from participating in games last season.

“He ran the scout team and couldn't have been more enthusiastic and excited every day,” Stoops said. “He looked at it as a great opportunity to get better, and it made us better. He was a leader to the other scout-team guys, how to come ready to play. He was a really good leader to them doing that. Since then, everyone has appreciated his hard work, his enthusiasm and his ability to make plays.”


As some of you know Baker Mayfield is one of my most favorite players that I've watched in all my years. I knew of him for a while but never really watched him until over the summer thinking he wouldn't get another season of eligibility. I was mesmerized. Inside that little body there is great deal of magic and just something special about him.

This thread is dedicated to all things Baker Mayfield.

DRAFTBREAKDOWN CUTS
http://draftbreakdown.com/players/baker-mayfield/

2016 TOUCHDOWN COMPILATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL2VhODkjnY&t=8s

2015 HIGHLIGHTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlSq24qkYo8

FIVE THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT MAYFIELD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0nqiDi-zbE

TALKS ABOUT BEING NAMED STARTER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGsMw0sT2M

OVERCOMING THE DOUBTERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnx4vFjhxj0

THE MOUSTACHE INTERVIEW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__LkVlOdQvU

MAYFIELD IN REVIEW
Positive
- Great football and personal character
- Unique personality who gets along with everyone
- Extremely confident with a linebackers mentality
- Solid arm strength along with short/intermediate zip
- Very good accuracy in the short/intermediate area
- Exceptional deep-ball accuracy
- Processes what he sees very quickly
- Sees the entire field
- Good pocket awareness
- Eyes in the back of his head in the pocket
- Won't go down without a fight
- Miraculous pocket ball security
- Great improvisation when the play breaks down
- Doesn't take bad blind-side sacks
- A very good athlete
- Has calmed down and stays in the pocket considerably longer
- No off-field concerns
Negatives
- Below average size at around 6'0" 212
- Small hands
- Lacks great arm strength
- Plays in the gun and in an offense perceived to be simple
- Tipped passes happen too often
- Has a concussion history and puts himself in the position to get hit often

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When's your first date with him?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingBishop wrote:
When's your first date with him?




I can beat his girlfriend.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CalhounLambeau wrote:
KingBishop wrote:
When's your first date with him?




I can beat his girlfriend.


Just don't beat her like his teammate Joe would.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CalhounLambeau wrote:
I can beat his girlfriend.


Weirdly enough, I know someone related to her...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KingBishop wrote:
CalhounLambeau wrote:
KingBishop wrote:
When's your first date with him?




I can beat his girlfriend.


Just don't beat her like his teammate Joe would.


Damn it, Bishop. I was going to make the Mixon joke. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Total gamer. Looks like he's having fun out there

I think he can be successful. Leadership is half the battle for that position.
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This guy has ZERO chance to be a starting NFL QB.

Simply lacks the arm strength for the position.

If you're gonna be an undersized QB, you need monstrous hands like Russell Wilson along with a strong arm. Mayfield lacks both.

He's a great college QB especially playing in a conference like the Big 12 that plays no defense. However, the 2 times he played a competent defense in 2015 (vs Clemson and Tennessee), he was exposed. I'll be interested to see if he struggles again against Auburn who has a pretty good defense as well.

He's a nice story but this is no Russell Wilson or Drew Brees.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chiefer wrote:
Total gamer. Looks like he's having fun out there

I think he can be successful. Leadership is half the battle for that position.


You need to be able to throw to be successful in the NFL. His lack of arm strength is a big problem that was really exposed by Tennessee in 2015. They sat on all the short routes and had safety help over the top for the long ball. The intermediate 15-20 yard throws were open but he lacked the arm strength to get them in-between the zones. That game was won because Sterling Shepard took over the game making several amazing plays down the stretch. And Baker Mayfield scrambling for his life since he couldn't make any plays through the air that game.

I don't think he has the arm talent of a Russell Wilson or the athleticism of a Tyrod Taylor to succeed in the NFL at his size. He's a UFA in my book.
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VanS wrote:
This guy has ZERO chance to be a starting NFL QB. If you're gonna be an undersized QB, you need monstrous hands like Russell Wilson along with a strong arm. Mayfield lacks both.

Tell that to Len Dawson who is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
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jrry32 wrote:
KingBishop wrote:
CalhounLambeau wrote:
KingBishop wrote:
When's your first date with him?




I can beat his girlfriend.


Just don't beat her like his teammate Joe would.


Damn it, Bishop. I was going to make the Mixon joke. Wink


It wrote itself Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CalhounLambeau wrote:
VanS wrote:
This guy has ZERO chance to be a starting NFL QB. If you're gonna be an undersized QB, you need monstrous hands like Russell Wilson along with a strong arm. Mayfield lacks both.

Tell that to Len Dawson who is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.


Len Dawson has been retired 41 years.

Bill Willis is a HOFer too, but 6'2 210 isn't going to cut it for a defensive lineman nowadays.

I get your point but there probably a better comparison and that guy probably isn't a HOF player in the modern day NFL.
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LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
CalhounLambeau wrote:
VanS wrote:
This guy has ZERO chance to be a starting NFL QB. If you're gonna be an undersized QB, you need monstrous hands like Russell Wilson along with a strong arm. Mayfield lacks both.

Tell that to Len Dawson who is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.


Len Dawson has been retired 41 years.

Bill Willis is a HOFer too, but 6'2 210 isn't going to cut it for a defensive lineman nowadays.

I get your point but there probably a better comparison and that guy probably isn't a HOF player in the modern day NFL.

My post was a joke. Laughing
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CalhounLambeau wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
CalhounLambeau wrote:
VanS wrote:
This guy has ZERO chance to be a starting NFL QB. If you're gonna be an undersized QB, you need monstrous hands like Russell Wilson along with a strong arm. Mayfield lacks both.

Tell that to Len Dawson who is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.


Len Dawson has been retired 41 years.

Bill Willis is a HOFer too, but 6'2 210 isn't going to cut it for a defensive lineman nowadays.

I get your point but there probably a better comparison and that guy probably isn't a HOF player in the modern day NFL.

My post was a joke. Laughing


Lol, easy to miss sarcasm on the interwebz.
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LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
CalhounLambeau wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
CalhounLambeau wrote:
VanS wrote:
This guy has ZERO chance to be a starting NFL QB. If you're gonna be an undersized QB, you need monstrous hands like Russell Wilson along with a strong arm. Mayfield lacks both.

Tell that to Len Dawson who is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.


Len Dawson has been retired 41 years.

Bill Willis is a HOFer too, but 6'2 210 isn't going to cut it for a defensive lineman nowadays.

I get your point but there probably a better comparison and that guy probably isn't a HOF player in the modern day NFL.

My post was a joke. Laughing


Lol, easy to miss sarcasm on the interwebz.

I was thinking, who the hell is like Baker Mayfield? Len Dawson didn't have big hands, he was 5'11" 190, didn't have a big arm, was accurate, cool and gutsy. But yeah, he played in a different era. Laughing
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