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cddolphin


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rumors are Dolphins will received a 3rd and two 5th round compensatory picks, giving them:

1 (22)
2
3 (comp)
5
5 (comp)
5 (comp)
6
7
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hrubes20 wrote:
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Pass rusher and LB are the two positions that require the most investment for Miami. Given the strength of the draft, I'd be just a little furious if the team doesn't address those two needs in the first three rounds.


Same. The other round can be a TE/CB/OG.


Yep! We're on the same page. I'd also throw in S, because it fits with the groups we have mentioned as very deep, and Miami can use some help in Nickel and Dime packages. If Nate Gerry falls, he'd be high on my list.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cddolphin wrote:
Rumors are Dolphins will received a 3rd and two 5th round compensatory picks, giving them:

1 (22)
2
3 (comp)
5
5 (comp)
5 (comp)
6
7


Great to have those three picks in the 5th for such a deep draft. That Carroo trade hurts, though. Ah well, there's plenty of reason for optimism - for the first time in a while.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more I think about it, I could see Miami trading up in the first round to get the specific LB or DE they covet.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freak_of_nature wrote:
The more I think about it, I could see Miami trading up in the first round to get the specific LB or DE they covet.


I agree that it is possible we trade up in round 1, just because Tannenbaum is involved in personnel decisions.

My preference is that we stay put until our pick, especially if we are targeting a LB.......and we all know how our last trade up for a DE turned out.......it's still hurting us. If we don't like what's there then we should trade back.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

green4gulf wrote:
freak_of_nature wrote:
The more I think about it, I could see Miami trading up in the first round to get the specific LB or DE they covet.


I agree that it is possible we trade up in round 1, just because Tannenbaum is involved in personnel decisions.

My preference is that we stay put until our pick, especially if we are targeting a LB.......and we all know how our last trade up for a DE turned out.......it's still hurting us. If we don't like what's there then we should trade back.


I hate trading up, plus there will be players that fit our needs at 23. I also don't want to trade down unless a team gives us a ransom to move back.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ericsvibe wrote:
green4gulf wrote:
freak_of_nature wrote:
The more I think about it, I could see Miami trading up in the first round to get the specific LB or DE they covet.


I agree that it is possible we trade up in round 1, just because Tannenbaum is involved in personnel decisions.

My preference is that we stay put until our pick, especially if we are targeting a LB.......and we all know how our last trade up for a DE turned out.......it's still hurting us. If we don't like what's there then we should trade back.


I hate trading up, plus there will be players that fit our needs at 23. I also don't want to trade down unless a team gives us a ransom to move back.


Well it is possible to trade down 2-4 spots, still get the player we wanted at 22 and acquire a 3rd or 4th round pic ( which isn't a ransom IMO ). It's all just situation dependent and hopefully we can end up in that situation. Nevertheless I'll settle for staying put and getting an immediate upgrade at a position of need ( OLB, DE, TE, CB or even OG or FS ).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There could be guys at 15 the FO thinks would be significantly better than the ones at 22. Like if Reuben Foster of Malik Hooker dropped - guys that are 9's instead of 8's.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There could be guys at 15 the FO thinks would be significantly better than the ones at 22. Like if Reuben Foster of Malik Hooker dropped - guys that are 9's instead of 8's.


I'm sure that will be the case. Every year great players fall for some reason or another. The only real factor in this type of situation is the cost to move up. I'm not opposed to moving up but there's maybe 3-4 players this draft that I would be OK with us moving up for. I sure hope we don't do what we did when we drafted Dion Jordan.......near catastrophic mistake.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

green4gulf wrote:
freak_of_nature wrote:
There could be guys at 15 the FO thinks would be significantly better than the ones at 22. Like if Reuben Foster of Malik Hooker dropped - guys that are 9's instead of 8's.


I'm sure that will be the case. Every year great players fall for some reason or another. The only real factor in this type of situation is the cost to move up. I'm not opposed to moving up but there's maybe 3-4 players this draft that I would be OK with us moving up for. I sure hope we don't do what we did when we drafted Dion Jordan.......near catastrophic mistake.


The move itself was actually really good. Fins only had to give up a 2nd round pick to move up to the 3rd pick overall. It was the evaluation of the player that was poor. But looking back, the entire top of that draft has been bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hrubes20 wrote:
green4gulf wrote:
freak_of_nature wrote:
There could be guys at 15 the FO thinks would be significantly better than the ones at 22. Like if Reuben Foster of Malik Hooker dropped - guys that are 9's instead of 8's.


I'm sure that will be the case. Every year great players fall for some reason or another. The only real factor in this type of situation is the cost to move up. I'm not opposed to moving up but there's maybe 3-4 players this draft that I would be OK with us moving up for. I sure hope we don't do what we did when we drafted Dion Jordan.......near catastrophic mistake.


The move itself was actually really good. Fins only had to give up a 2nd round pick to move up to the 3rd pick overall. It was the evaluation of the player that was poor. But looking back, the entire top of that draft has been bad.


Do Miami have anyone left from the 2013 Draft class? I mean outside Jordan? no.. Fireland was justified.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheValiant wrote:
hrubes20 wrote:
green4gulf wrote:
freak_of_nature wrote:
There could be guys at 15 the FO thinks would be significantly better than the ones at 22. Like if Reuben Foster of Malik Hooker dropped - guys that are 9's instead of 8's.


I'm sure that will be the case. Every year great players fall for some reason or another. The only real factor in this type of situation is the cost to move up. I'm not opposed to moving up but there's maybe 3-4 players this draft that I would be OK with us moving up for. I sure hope we don't do what we did when we drafted Dion Jordan.......near catastrophic mistake.


The move itself was actually really good. Fins only had to give up a 2nd round pick to move up to the 3rd pick overall. It was the evaluation of the player that was poor. But looking back, the entire top of that draft has been bad.


Do Miami have anyone left from the 2013 Draft class? I mean outside Jordan? no.. Fireland was justified.


Sims and Jenkins.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freak_of_nature wrote:
TheValiant wrote:
hrubes20 wrote:
green4gulf wrote:
freak_of_nature wrote:
There could be guys at 15 the FO thinks would be significantly better than the ones at 22. Like if Reuben Foster of Malik Hooker dropped - guys that are 9's instead of 8's.


I'm sure that will be the case. Every year great players fall for some reason or another. The only real factor in this type of situation is the cost to move up. I'm not opposed to moving up but there's maybe 3-4 players this draft that I would be OK with us moving up for. I sure hope we don't do what we did when we drafted Dion Jordan.......near catastrophic mistake.


The move itself was actually really good. Fins only had to give up a 2nd round pick to move up to the 3rd pick overall. It was the evaluation of the player that was poor. But looking back, the entire top of that draft has been bad.


Do Miami have anyone left from the 2013 Draft class? I mean outside Jordan? no.. Fireland was justified.


Sims and Jenkins.


the second weakest draft class outside 2007.. I'm feeling old already.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McShay came out with a new mock today and had us taking Njoku at 22. His stock seems to really be rising, to the point where he looks like a lock for the 1st round. As much as I want to see defense, defense, and more defense in this draft, I can certainly get on board with either Howard or Njoku.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hrubes20 wrote:
McShay came out with a new mock today and had us taking Njoku at 22. His stock seems to really be rising, to the point where he looks like a lock for the 1st round. As much as I want to see defense, defense, and more defense in this draft, I can certainly get on board with either Howard or Njoku.


I'd rather take a DE, LB, CB, OT, OG... too many holes on this team to justify a TE in my opinion.

Disclaimer: I know nothing about Njoku
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