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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:42 am    Post subject: 2017 KC Chiefs Skeleton Depth Chart Reply with quote

So here's the usual tool I provide - the skeleton depth chart. I'll update throughout the pre-season.

Color codes:

black: 2016 player
bold: under contract through 2017
violet: 2016 Practice Squad player
blue: Free Agent Acquisition
red: Trade Acquisition
green: Draft Pick
orange: UDFA Acquisition

Offense

RT - Schwartz, Witzmann
RG - Duvernay-Tardif
OC - Morse
LG - Fulton, Ehinger
LT - Fisher, Reid

Other Players: Cheek (OL), Devey (OG), Person (C), Battle (OT), James (OT), Hawkins (OT), Mama (OT), Tiller (OG)

QB - A. Smith, Mahomes II, Bray

Other Players: Stave

RB - Ware, Hunt, West, Spiller
FB - Sherman

Other Players: Redding

WR - Conley, Robinson
Slot - A. Wilson, D. Thomas
WR - Hill, Chesson

Other Players: S. Jones, Dieter, Kemp, Moore, Stevens, T. Jones

TE - Kelce, D. Harris, Travis

Other Players: Escobar, Byrd, Charles

Defense

DE - C. Jones, Nunez-Roches
NT - Logan
DE - Bailey, Kpassagnon

Other Players: King, Hughes, Jenkins, Ali'ifua, C. Thomas

WOLB - Ford, Hali, Nicholas
WILB - D. Johnson, Mauga, Alexander
SILB - R. Wilson, March-Lillard
SOLB - J. Houston, Zombo

Other Players: Okine, T. Smith, Cliett, Eligwe, Rush

CB - Peters, White
NB - S. Nelson
CB - Gaines, Mitchell

Other Players: Acker, McQuay III, Bausby, JR Nelson, Lampkin, Harfield, Baxter

FS - Parker, Murray
SS - Berry, Sorensen

Other Players: Stern, Terrell

Specialists

K - Santos
P - Colquitt
LS - Winchester

Other Players: ---
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I trimmed the roster down to 53 players.
Some thoughts:

OL: Witzmann is an unknown to us, however, the brass seems to like him, having kept him on the roster all 2016. Nevertheless, he'll have to fight for his job. Reid is pretty expensive for a backup lineman, however, being able to play four positions along the line is a value in itself.

QB: Stave should be out after camp.

RB: I consider only Ware, Hunt and Sherman as set. The other three (West, Spiller, Reaves) will be competing for one or two spots, depending on how the mix of RB, TE and WR shakes up. As of now I have 4 RB plus FB, which may be high considering Hill and (if he stays) DAT can also operate from the backfield.

TE: Weird group. I don't get the O'Shaughnessy trade with Harris up for a suspension. Are they really so high on Escobar and Travis? Wouldn't be surprised if an UDFA cracks the position.

WR: Similar to running back: Maclin, Conley and Hill are set. I don't think they want to repeat the Russell experiment from last year, so Chesson should be safe as well. Robinson, Wilson and Thomas will have to fight for their job. I think Robinson has the best chance as he might still be considered a project.

DL: Set unless injury strikes. Who'll switch sides: Jones or Bailey??

LB: Still an area of concern? Will the old DJ be back? Will Wilson continue to develop or March step up? The same on the outside: Houston? Ford switching sides? What does Tamba have left? Depth behind the starters is a real question mark this year.

CB: Last year's crew returns. Let's hope Mitchell doesn't pull a Marcus Cooper and collapse after a good 2016 season. White and Mitchell will have to watch their backs, McQuay and Acker do have a chance to challenge I think.

S: Similar to CB the 2016 unit returns. The Huff addition may provide some additional depth, but I would not rule out an UDFA taking his (or Murray's) job.

I went with a 10:10 ratio between LB and DBs, I can imagine adding a LB for the 10th DB as well.

The Specialists: Last year's team as well, they bring in some tryout P and LS (and most likely a PK) for Rookie camp as well - but that's more to be able to practice all phases of the game.
However, wouldn't be surprised to see an UDFA PK in camp.

Where might UDFA fit?

Historically (if you can call 4 years history) the current regime added max 1 UDFA to the initial 53 player roster. As of now I see the best option for an UDFA to make it at OL, TE or PK. But this team built (with the exception of LB and TE) nice depth all around, so it's not as easy as it may have been in 2013.

I don't think the team is done, I still expect one or two FA being signed. However, with as little cap space the team has left, those signings won't be fundamental game changers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trying to figure out the big camp battles this here. After OTAs here's my take (barring injuries):

OL: Ehinger vs. Fulton. Reid, Witzmann will have to fight for their jobs.
RB: Spiller vs. West. I think only one of them will make it.
WR: Wilson, DAT, S. Jones. Max 2 will make it, wouldn't be surprised if the team keeps only 5 WR.
TE: Kelce and Travis should be set. Harris' pending suspension may open the door for Escobar or Charles - and then Harris may have a hard time to reclaim his job.

DL: I have no clue how C.Thomas fits into the picture. 6 DL would be unusual for the team.
LB: I think they'll go with 9 only. Hali, Nicholas, Zombo, Alexander will have to be careful. I wouldn't even rule out DJ being cut if he has lingering injury issues.
DB: Huff, Acker, McQuay, White may have to fight for two slots left.

Cap considerations may play a significant role if the team really tries to build up some room for 2018. Oh, and the team usually brings in a player or two after final cuts ...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Travis is set at TE? and Kelce? meaning Ross Travis is set? Really?
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ArrowheadRage58 wrote:
Travis is set at TE? and Kelce? meaning Ross Travis is set? Really?


As of now: I do think so, assuming Harris will face a suspension.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who is Seantavius Jones and why is his name coming up? I know the obvious--big WR out of a small school in 2014. He was not even rostered last year. What did he do on PS and off season that has his name flying around?

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onejayhawk wrote:
Who is Seantavius Jones and why is his name coming up? I know the obvious--big WR out of a small school in 2014. He was not even rostered last year. What did he do on PS and off season that has his name flying around?

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https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/6/16/15816014/chiefs-andy-reid-highlights-another-young-receiver-who-has-caught-his-eye

He'd been mentioned as good talent before. Spent the year on the PS, not unusual for an UDFA rookie. Not saying he'll make it, but Wilson and DAT are entering the last year of their contracts - so it may be time to bring in young talent with room for development (which I don't see for the other two).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC_Guy wrote:
onejayhawk wrote:
Who is Seantavius Jones and why is his name coming up? I know the obvious--big WR out of a small school in 2014. He was not even rostered last year. What did he do on PS and off season that has his name flying around?

J


https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/6/16/15816014/chiefs-andy-reid-highlights-another-young-receiver-who-has-caught-his-eye

He'd been mentioned as good talent before. Spent the year on the PS, not unusual for an UDFA rookie. Not saying he'll make it, but Wilson and DAT are entering the last year of their contracts - so it may be time to bring in young talent with room for development (which I don't see for the other two).

He was not an UDFA rookie. He came out in 2014 and played three games in 2015.

I saw the Reid comment. It was one of the ones I mentioned in OP. But, it is all very vague. Why did he catch Reid's eye? Is he an unusually good blocking WR, for example. We have missed that since the Show left town.

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